(another) black man asked to leave the pool

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  1. noway2

    noway2 Senior Member Charter Life Member

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    Link here: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/b...-officer-in-viral-video/ar-AAzWN6X?li=BBnbfcL

    The short story is the man is a resident at the apartment complex and possessed a key to gain access to the pool. He was approached by a female off duty cop who asked if he lived there and then demanded his address. Stating that he did not know her, he was uncomfortable giving his address but showed that he had a key. The manager was called and confirmed that the guy was a resident with rightful access to the pool. According to the article, the cop who was working as an off duty security guard didn't like the fact that he refused to give his address and still demanded that he leave the pool.

    The management company that owns the apartment complex said the manager has been placed on leave pending an investigation.

    Another case of little napoleon syndrome for failure to recognize author-i-tay?

     
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    Climberman Unstealthiest Ninja

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    If he had a key......wow. just wow.
     
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    concepthomes1 Your Neighbor Staff Member Charter Member Benefactor

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    And the weak-minded keep exposing themselves to their own peril.

    Sad this still happens.
     
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    Chuckman Senior Member Sponsor

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    And still demanded he leave the pool, after being positively identified as an occupant of the complex....

    Fu-- er, screw that. No way I would have left. And if she called a squad car to take me away, I would own her, and the apartment complex....
     
  5. Cowboy

    Cowboy Glances can deceive

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    There was a guy at Walmart the other day "fundraising". But instead of being at the front door he was walking in between parked cars walking up behind people. I told him I didn't appreciate being walked up on for any reason and no I was not interested. I thought about calling Walmart to ask if he was actually fundraising, Then I remembered all these threads about pools and decided not to. I know its a little different but still is in my head.
     
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    Tim I am....an Enchanter. Staff Member Benefactor Charter Life Member

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    Yeah.....no. That 'officer' doesn't need to be carrying a badge and gun.
     
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    J R Green Member Charter Life Member

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    Say what?
     
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    Bailey Boat Senior Member Charter Member Benefactor Supporting Member

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    And that manager needs a career re-alignment.....
     
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    NKD Senior Member Charter Member Benefactor Kimberless

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    What an idiot.
    I actually don't have any problem with her asking if he is a resident. I personally have been asked at an apartment pool I lived at. And one I didn't live at. Was kicked out of second one, lol. Also, was kicked out of the Weatherstone coffee shop in Sacramento for not purchasing anything and hanging out there, heh. A lot of young people were, because they'd hang out and not buy anything and be general pain in the butts.

    But dang he showed his key and other lady confirmed he lived there. I would have been a lot more pissed and angry than this fella. I can see why he would think it was because he was black. Feel sorry for him as he was reasonable to this rent-a-cop dipsh*t.

    Hope she looses her job. And, other lady should , too, for having no backbone.

    Shoulda have been "Cool, Mr. Resident, it is my job to check everyone, please enjoy your day. Thank you". And, then she had better be checking everyone else! Just my opinion.
     
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    In my early years I was tasked with investigating employee fraud. It was fun and rewarding, but I was almost always amazed at what people would throw their livelihood away for. One guy literally stole something worth less than $10. Anyway, same issue with this officer. Frankly the manager should have told the security guard to act properly towards the member or leave the premises.
     
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    I talked to my wife and she agreed with me you should've either called Walmart or went in and let the store manager know what this person was doing
     
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    Cowboy Glances can deceive

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    I don't disagree.
     
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    Talked to my wife some other people we never met before and they all said you should have shot the perp.
     
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    oops :oops:

    Thanks for catching that.
     
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    Brian K Resident Douchenozzle Charter Member Supporting Member

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    Just because you have a key doesn't mean you live there.
     
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    NKD Senior Member Charter Member Benefactor Kimberless

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    What about if the Property Manager knows you by name, rented the place to you, and says you do live there?

    Need a DNA test or something?
     
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    The man may have started out in the right, but he spoiled it by acting like a total a--hole.
     
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    I agree. There would be hell to pay if only he were asked for proof of residency, and no White folks were. I am not a fan of the race card, but I hope this guy screws the hell out of them
     
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    noway2 Senior Member Charter Life Member

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    One, if you're working off duty i.e. in a different capacity, don't play the Johnny Law card as leverage in your off duty role. That means in this case you aren't making an official address and have zero government backed power to demand someone identify themselves. Two, in this case as soon as the manager confirmed the resident was legitimate that should have been the end of it. Three, stay polite and professional, it will keep you out of trouble. Four, if the alleged guest or resident is unruly, let the manager deal with it and let them call the cops if they feel the need and if they do remember that your off duty and serving a different role for different employer.
     
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    Cowboy Glances can deceive

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    Not to crap on your point but most(not all) off duty work is ran through the departments so you may be "off" regular duty but you are still acting in the same effect as being on duty. Like when your at a high school football game and the police are walking around they are "off" duty but working through the department.
     
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    SMH..... dude should have told the two women to piss off about 30 seconds in and then just ignored them.

    I did notice that the (female??) police officer seemed to be packing some extra "heat" in her crotch at around the 3:17 mark LOL :rolleyes:
     
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    noway2 Senior Member Charter Life Member

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    Interesting. Thank you for bringing that up. The question I then have is, would ones actions then be limited or determined by who your employer is? What I mean is, if your working off duty, through the department, your still working for and presumably paid by the department (which might be getting reimbursed) as compared to working directly for the company?

    Edit to add, the former case makes for some interesting situations in regard to an official versus unofficial capacity. Having official police guard who uses a pool is a weird concept.
     
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    http://reason.com/blog/2018/07/11/arkansas-cop-adam-finley-mercado

    This is not race related but follows the theme in this situation of someone having to prove they have a right to be where they are (working for the railroad testing a crossing) and the officer becoming hostile and irate because reasons....

    Watch the video and read the other linked articles.
     
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    Cowboy Glances can deceive

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    Honestly I'm not sure I'm sure others could chime in on how it works.
     
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    The BNSF train man is very lucky that the cop did not shoot him as he moved into the cab of the truck.
    I hope he gets a big check from the city.
     
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    I think she was just mad because the brother didn't want that flat ass.
     

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