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Idiot! The badge is more powerful than the gun? Really? The reason the guy dropped the knife was he probably THOUGHT the cop also had a gun. Also, he apparently wasn't one of the modern, hardened criminals that care nothing about you, your life, breaking laws, prison, etc.

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Dudes a tool, but did you see the poll at the bottom? 89% believe in the right to carry.
 
Perhaps another retired LEO on the anti payroll? I'm sure his is very safe in Oregon.
 
He must have missed the news story about the armed citizen who saved the life of an AZ Trooper.

https://www.abc15.com/news/region-p...n-who-shot-killed-his-attacker-saved-his-life

Looks like he really is paranoid. He never checked the gun laws before moving there?

Back east (I moved to Oregon from the Boston area) a few times I saw a detective in a store with a pistol on his hip but it was always with his badge on the belt. So this is what I looked for first. There was no badge. I followed him out to the parking lot and saw him get into this truck

I didn’t even know Oregon was an open carry state until I went to the sheriff dept. substation which was nearby and they told me he was within his legal rights. Now understand, the area I live which is a Portland suburb and it is very liberal, unlike the conservative rural areas. This man was obviously sending us liberals a message, and a rather disturbing one at that.
 
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WTF? The bottom of the article. He sees a guy LAWFULLY carrying a pistol and goes to a police substation to report it. And this is his comment:

I was at the local Freddy’s (like a Walmart Superstore) and a man wearing jeans was in the checkout line in front of me. On his hip he had a semi-automatic pistol in a holster. Back east (I moved to Oregon from the Boston area) a few times I saw a detective in a store with a pistol on his hip but it was always with his badge on the belt. So this is what I looked for first. There was no badge. I followed him out to the parking lot and saw him get into this truck.

I didn’t even know Oregon was an open carry state until I went to the sheriff dept. substation which was nearby and they told me he was within his legal rights. Now understand, the area I live which is a Portland suburb and it is very liberal, unlike the conservative rural areas. This man was obviously sending us liberals a message, and a rather disturbing one at that.

And then the assclown posts these two pics of the guys truck:

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So there is the confed flag and the guys plate number.
 
Wth is the DailyKOS? Must be an uber liberal rag. I read several of the comments, and all were anti 2A. What's even funnier is you have all the anti comments, but the poll is overwhelmingly pro 2A. The silent majority speaks...

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Wth is the DailyKOS? Must be an uber liberal rag. I read several of the comments, and all were anti 2A. What's even funnier is you have all the anti comments, but the poll is overwhelmingly pro 2A. The silent majority speaks...

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Yes. I started to read the comments and got about a 3rd of the way through. ALL anti freedom. But the poll.......
 
Haha... and I quote..."I feel lucky to live in California, where if I see someone not in uniform with a gun, I’ll scream, yell, and hit the ground. I’m extremely ammophobic so I don’t want to get used to seeing guns everywhere, and I don’t want my neighbors becoming OK with it, either."

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A good point, that I think we all have made at some time...

"I have a question. If or when and how often has a “good guy with a gun” stopped a mass shooting incident? I have noticed that the terrorists never attack a gun show or a police station, where they could expect to get shot."

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A few points:

"In today's world Amendment 3, The Housing of Soldiers, has lost its relevance." Just because it has worked, and is working, doesn't mean it has lost its relevance. My houses smoke detector has never gone off...doesn't make it irrelevant.

"The Right to Bear Arms amendment became outdated and irrelevant once the country actually had a well-regulated militia you must look at the history of the National Guard." No, not according to the people who actually wrote the 2A.

"Not only does the United States have a “well organized militia” but every inch of the United States is protected by a police or sheriffs department." There are no police officers of Sheriffs deputies at my house at 2am when the glass crashes.

"This scenario always involved displaying my badge and announcing “police” even if it was in a city like Boston where I didn’t have jurisdiction." so he likes the power that little metal badge gives him over others, especially when he uses it illegally.

"Sorry Wayne LPierre, it doesn’t take a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun. It takes a cop with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun. Good guys, no matter how well meaning, with guns are dangerous and may inadvertently be shot by the police." So, in the mean time, lay down and get shot like a good little victim while we wait the 5-20 minutes for a cop to show up.

I will not ever apologize for being man enough to refuse the outsourcing of my personal security. How ultimately selfish and elitist to charge someone else with your own wellbeing because you cant be bothered to handle it yourself.

TL:DR: This guy is the Grand PoohBah of the BlueLineFuddies.
 
Wth is the DailyKOS? Must be an uber liberal rag.
Beyond Librul, it's very regressive. I call it the DailyKrap.
I'll bet the comments are "moderated" to fit their agenda.
They call it "community moderation". It's a perverse tool, not based upon concrete rules or standards, that is designed to create conformance with the hive mind. Basically, if the horde disagrees with you strongly enough, they'll pile on and get your user account punished. Punishment ranging from a short suspension to outright banishment. Similarly, sufficient talk that is pleasing to the masses earns likes which get you "trusted" user status with different degrees of trust. Put in context of communism, it's scary. Thankfully, they don't speak for the majority of Libruls, but the whack-a-doodle fringe. I think they rose to prominence around the coming of the anointed one, have somewhat faded since then.

Optional: Molon Labe, Mofo.
They'd rephrase that as the Moron Lobby, obviously not realizing they're describing themselves.
 
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A good point, that I think we all have made at some time...

"I have a question. If or when and how often has a “good guy with a gun” stopped a mass shooting incident? I have noticed that the terrorists never attack a gun show or a police station, where they could expect to get shot."

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The answer and the issue with this question is we don’t know.

Why we don’t know is both a problem with media coverage and the statistical calculations of what a mass shooting is.

A mass shooting is defined as (I believe) 3 or more people being shot. It might be 4 or more. Regardless, if a good guy with a gun takes out the shooter after he has shot the required number of people to be called a mass shooting then statistically (and biased reported) he did not STOP a mass shooting. He killed a shooter after the mass shooting occurred.

And alternatively, if he takes out a shooter after he has only shot one or two people he didn’t stop a mass shooting because nobody knows if he would have shot more and statistically a mass shooting hasn’t occurred so how could it have been stopped?

This is the real problem with main source media, including the supposed right wing versions. They all have the same agenda and the same scripts because they are all owned by only a handful of people.
 
This is the real problem with main source media, including the supposed right wing versions. They all have the same agenda and the same scripts because they are all owned by only a handful of people.
So very true. If you (our general member base, not just you) haven't you should get Tor and or a VPN and spend sometime reading other outlets and information sources than just the regular media. Foreign sources are a good choice, and there is value in (using Tor) and going to even far right and left blogs and other news concentration sites. You will see things that don't fly in the main media.
 
Former policeman believes only the police need to carry guns.
That the badge is more powerful then the gun. :(

His decision not to carry will not stop me from doing so.

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2019...-think-the-Second-Amendment-should-be-scraped



Time for my little test again.
1. Do you believe police have a dangerous job and should be allowed to carry a firearm? Yes or no?
2. Out of 100 calls to any given police agency for a violent event (rape, robbery, assault, murder or whatever) how often do police arrive while the perp is still there? 10, 20, 50, 75? Choose one or use your own.
3. Who is at the scene of a violent event? The victim, the perp, the police and what % of the time are they there? The victim generally 100% (unless two bad guys go at it). The perp 100%. The police whatever % you chose above.
So if you answered yes to number 1 and chose any % less than 100 how can you honestly say the victims should not carry since they are there 100% of the time(generally)?
Now tell me again that police are the only ones who should carry.
 
"Sorry Wayne LPierre, it doesn’t take a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun. It takes a cop with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun. Good guys, no matter how well meaning, with guns are dangerous and may inadvertently be shot by the police." .

So cops are not good guys? Not sure that's the point he wanted to make, but he sure took them right out of that category didn't he? He's so busy making his point he kind of also screwed it up. The reality is, when a bad guy with a gun shows up and there is not a good guy around to readily stop it, you call the good guys with guns who's job it is to stop them. Or he's so high on his former perceive power he does not realize that LE is just a citizen with a job to do.
 
They call it "community moderation". It's a perverse tool, not based upon concrete rules or standards, that is designed to create conformance with the hive mind. Basically, if the horde disagrees with you strongly enough, they'll pile on and get your user account punished. Punishment ranging from a short suspension to outright banishment. Similarly, sufficient talk that is pleasing to the masses earns likes which get you "trusted" user status with different degrees of trust. Put in context of communism, it's scary.

Social Credit scores, coming soon to your town.
 
So cops are not good guys? Not sure that's the point he wanted to make, but he sure took them right out of that category didn't he? He's so busy making his point he kind of also screwed it up. The reality is, when a bad guy with a gun shows up and there is not a good guy around to readily stop it, you call the good guys with guns who's job it is to stop them. Or he's so high on his former perceive power he does not realize that LE is just a citizen with a job to do.

The author of this comes across to me as the typical FUDD we have all bumped into at least a few times in our lives. He was hitting all of the talking points...2A applies only to the national guard, good guys never stop bad guys, only cops are competent enough to use guns, better to wait to let the cops handle a situation, carrying a gun just makes you a target. If he used the terms "high cap clips" then I would know for sure it was a troll.
 
The author of this comes across to me as the typical FUDD we have all bumped into at least a few times in our lives. He was hitting all of the talking points...2A applies only to the national guard, good guys never stop bad guys, only cops are competent enough to use guns, better to wait to let the cops handle a situation, carrying a gun just makes you a target. If he used the terms "high cap clips" then I would know for sure it was a troll.


Strangely enuff info that used to be readily available on the NRA website showed where officer involved shootings resulted in the wrong person being shot something like 11% of the time and civilian shootings was something like 2% or less.
 
Strangely enuff info that used to be readily available on the NRA website showed where officer involved shootings resulted in the wrong person being shot something like 11% of the time and civilian shootings was something like 2% or less.

ANNND...civilian shootings averaged like 2-3 rounds fired, where police were prone to mag dump 15+
 
this "cop" picture in the dailykos rag looks like the guy in the picture below that @bondjamesbond posted earlier
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What this guy cohorts think of the police

'F**k the police': Foul-mouthed liberal protesters harass, call cops KKK at Houston Democratic debate
"Cops and Klan go hand-in-hand!"
TheBlaze Staff
A mob of liberal protesters harassed and shouted obscenities at police outside the Democratic debate in Houston, Texas, on Thursday.

In a video shared by BlazeTV correspondent and host of "Slightly Offens*ve," Elijah Schaffer, protesters repeatedly chant "f**k the police," before one woman picks up a bullhorn to declare that the Houston Police are the "American Gestapo."

"They will f**king take you. The Houston Police Department collaborates with ICE!" shouted another woman.

"Cops and Klan go hand-in-hand!" yelled a man, starting another round of chanting.

Source: https://www.theblaze.com/slightly-o...16&utm_term=TheBlaze Daily PM - last 270 days
 
On LIVE PD I recall AZ Trooper James Casey talking about the night he pulled over a car and was shot in the face with a .357 round.
He carried his badge and that did not stop the man in the car from trying to kill the trooper.

Last year he was involved in another shooting incident, he and the suspect were shot, he is OK but has since retired from the force.
 
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