Article: SC Gov. McMaster cites ‘Constitutional Freedoms’ at signing for new open-carry gun law

It's a small step in the right direction. But it's NOT "constitutional freedoms".

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Check this link out, which has an attorney doing a legal review of this law, with the good, the bad, and the ugly points.

Open Carry with Training Act (H3094) – The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly | South Carolina Carry Inc.

www.southcarolinacarry.org www.southcarolinacarry.org

I HIGHLY advise people to read this, because in the gaining of open carry we have lost some other important things.

Signage requirements, once crystal clear, now suck.

Remember the governors boasting about Second Amendment sanctuary status for SC? Well, if this is true then why is there a reporting requirement in Section 10 which enforces federal law?

All this means, of course, that the government did what governments do best: took something simple and effed up.
 
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What I'm missing? You go and get a concealed carry permit and then you open carry? This just doesn't seem like a great step forward to me. Plain open carry would seem like a step forward. If I'm going to go through all the trouble of getting a concealed carry permit I'm carrying concealed.
 
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Jim1392 said:
What I'm missing? You go and get a concealed carry permit and then you open carry? This just doesn't seem like a great step forward to me. Plain open carry would seem like a step forward. If I'm going to go through all the trouble of getting a concealed carry permit I'm carrying concealed.
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On my first trip down to Battery Oaks, I was wearing a tshirt, tucked, in and an open vest. I was carrying OWB so the vest was there to conceal the weapon.

At a certain point, traffic stopped for construction on a two lane road. After a while, I jumped out for a smoke and began chatting with the guy in the car behind me. He noticed the gun and we began debating different firearms. As I understand the previous law, if we were in SC (not sure whether we’d crossed the line yet), I’d have been in violation because my gun was no longer “concealed”.

I think that’s what @BatteryOaksBilly means by printing issues.
 
Jeppo said:
On my first trip down to Battery Oaks, I was wearing a tshirt, tucked, in and an open vest. I was carrying OWB so the vest was there to conceal the weapon.

At a certain point, traffic stopped for construction on a two lane road. After a while, I jumped out for a smoke and began chatting with the guy in the car behind me. He noticed the gun and we began debating different firearms. As I understand the previous law, if we were in SC (not sure whether we’d crossed the line yet), I’d have been in violation because my gun was no longer “concealed”.

I think that’s what @BatteryOaksBilly means by printing issues.
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Other states have had the same problem.
 
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Just to be clear from this end....ALL here look at this as a positive. No more "printing" issues. That alone is a Great help.
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This ^^^
Also, don’t have to be paranoid when reaching for an item on the top shelf in a supermarket and the gun muzzle is exposed.
 
Honestly, the open carry benefit is small beans when it comes at the cost of erosion of the other benefits we had before this law.

This should serve as a reminder that those in the government are two-faced SOBS who are ALWAYS playing the political card.

The open carry bit could have been a simple change of the existing statutes to allow own carry. BUT IT WASN'T.

The fact that it wasn't should have been a red flag to everybody, ESPECIALLY when those in power were waving "LOOKIE HERE, I GAVE YOU PERMISSION TO OPEN CARRY! AND NOW WE'RE A 2A SANCTUARY STATE!"

So now I can open carry and don't have to worry about printing. A minor issue.

But now I HAVE to be MORE attentive to No Guns signs because now pretty much ANYTHING serves to block my entry compared to before.

Now we're a "2A Sanctuary state", which is at best a token statement with absolutely NO weight of law behind it AND it comes with REPORTING REQUIREMENTS which ENFORCE FEDERAL LAW.

Honestly?

I'd rather get back what I had before and dump open carry. Printing? Pfft...peanuts.
 
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RetiredUSNChief said:
Honestly, the open carry benefit is small beans when it comes at the cost of erosion of the other benefits we had before this law.
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The S.C. CWP regs before 1998 were amazing...I could carry ANYWHERE in the state of S.C. From 1975 to 1998 we had more authority to carry statewide than most LEs. When they opened it up to everybody that could qualify they absolutely Gutted the CWPs we had. I sat on juries with a Colt on my side, literally I could carry Everywhere.

This^^ to say I have been in from the beginning. Everytime they "give," they feel Obligated to Munk with the regs in place.

Having been in from the beginning the "printing" issue has always been a problem. This solved that...that is a Plus....Maybe with enough Money we can get a Constitutional Carry Law...first I've got to work to get rid of 2 Horry county Senators.....I'm On It.

So your issue is signage...to which I say to you ...Pfffttttt! Watermellons!

@RetiredUSNChief
 
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BatteryOaksBilly said:
The S.C. CWP regs before 1998 were amazing...I could carry ANYWHERE in the state of S.C. From 1975 to 1998 we had more authority to carry statewide than most LEs. When they opened it up to everybody that could qualify they absolutely Gutted the CWPs we had. I sat on juries with a Colt on my side, literally I could carry Everywhere.

This^^ to say I have been in from the beginning. Everytime they "give," they feel Obligated to Munk with the regs in place.

Having been in from the beginning the "printing" issue has always been a problem. This solved that...that is a Plus....Maybe with enough Money we can get a Constitutional Carry Law...first I've got to work to get rid of 2 Horry county Senators.....I'm On It.

So your issue is signage...to which I say to you ...Pfffttttt! Watermellons!

@RetiredUSNChief
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Though not from SC, I'm also old enough to remember "the way things used to be". This is a (small) step in the right direction. But it cost us in others.

The danger here isn't just that it cost us this, but that so many don't realize it cost us.

That's what erodes the foundation the 2A stands on.
 
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