Beers and AK Builds?

IUHoosier429

Bull(et) City
Charter Member
Benefactor
Life Member
Supporting Member
Multi-Factor Enabled
Joined
Dec 16, 2016
Messages
2,943
Location
Indy 500
Rating - 100%
19   0   0
Reading the last few posts in the recent AK prices thread has me thinking...

Some folks have parts kits lying around at home. Others have receivers. I have neither, but do have a big interest in and the means for procuring both and putting together my own rifle.

With components not terribly hard to come by, it seems like this would be a great opportunity for a few of us CFF Kalash fans to get together somewhere with the necessary tools and a knowledgeable leader, and build our own.

Just spit-balling on my way to lunch, but anyone here interested in such a thing?
 
I was extremely lucky when I got involved with building AKs. I had an AK guru provide me with help along with Youtube. I'm not so sure that a group build would be very helpful. There is so much more involved in building AKs than ARs. Plus you need space to do your work. Not to mention tools, drill bits, reamers, punches and miscellaneous items. Which could mean with a group more than one set of tools. Depending on your kit, you may need at least a 12 ton press to get barrel remnants out of the front trunnion, gas block and front sight. Then you'll need tools to press the new barrel back into the trunnion and a populating tool to set the rest of the parts. Depending on where you get your receiver there could be holes to be drill there. A drill press and grinder to demill the parts that were not demilled at point of origin or importer. A few rivet tool presses to press your rivets in with. Head space gauges (Go and NoGo) are a must. I bought most of my tools from Toth Tool, http://www.tothtool.com/AK47-Tools_c_1.html And possibly a sound proof room to keep the outside world safe from the swearing...

I have built five ARs and only one AK (so far) but I have to say that I was more pleased and felt a better since of accomplishment with the AK build.

I am by no means an expert or an instructor nor do I want to discourage you or anyone else form an AK build. And someone may have a better idea than I. Just wanted to relay a little of what I have found out. One other opinion/observation. If you are going to only have one AK it may be a better idea buying one. Trust me the tools are not cheap nor are they overly expensive but would kinda be a waste to go thorough the time, trouble and money to purchase all of the tools for only one rifle. Way cheaper and faster to buy one. IMMHO.
 
Appreciate the insight very much, thanks!

I do have a fair AK collection already and am always looking to grow it a little more. The one thing I do not have is a workshop, but have read about parties where the press and other heavy-duty equipment is not necessary for all to bring, as long as they own some of the other required tools and bring those along. I admire guys who have the gear, patience, and know-how to turn a box of scattered parts into a fully functional rifle on their own. Must feel way more satisfying than buying and shooting a pre-built AK (which is still loads of fun).
 
I like the idea. However I have neither the workshop, tools or knowledge about them. However I would be willing to trade out either shop clean up or AK parts is someone has the everything else.
 
12 ton press, nice, but not necessary.
Spot welder tongs, nice, but not necessary.
Rivet crusher, nice, but not necessary.
Flat bending jig, very nice, but not necessary.

Think outside the box comrades. You're not building a precision rifle for Ivan so odds on you have most of what you need right now.

I got dragged into the build sickness by my sons. Oldest had just gone active and we were at a gunshow where Romy kits were $60. His comment to me was if some haji in a cave with rocks and stick could fabricate one, we could surely do so in the basement with minimal tools. That was the prompt, minimal tools. The boys both bought multiple kits and flats to embark on the great experiment. And yes, we did experiment with screw builds. They work, but I prefer the rivets.

12 ton press. Nope, just need some dry ice, MAP torch and bench vise. Apply heat to trunion (this was back when the barrel was included) use cast off piece of steel for drift, use big bench vise as press to pop the pin out. Bed barrel assembly in dry ice (or freezer) for a day, heat trunion with torch, rest in top of jaws of vise, drift out barrel with brass drift contoured to fit barrel and chamber. Sounds way harder than it really is.

Flat bending jig. We used 2 pieces of scrap steel bolted together with the edge where the fold would be. Chuck steel into vise, use brass hammer to start working the fold. Repeat for other side. Yes Virginia, this will work with patience. Repeat for top rails.

Spot welder tongs. Don't needem. Use scrap steel filed to thickness for location of ejector and rails. Drill hole in receiver at rail location. Clamp rail into place. Plug weld into place, filling hole.

Use barrel trunion to mark hole location for rivets. Drill receiver for rivets.

Rivet crusher tool- Only if you're OCD about appearance. Bucking bar made from rail road spike and hollow nose punch (made from center punch with grinder and dremel). Using hammer and punch, pound rivets in place, takes time and some patience, still looks ok, completely functional. The first couple will look odd, you'll get better as you do more. Only folks who would object are those who want perfection in appearance. But remember comrade, perfect is the enemy of good enough.

Put barrel back into freezer for at least 24hrs. Heat trunion (riveted to receiver) with MAP torch, not red hot, but hotter than you'd ever think of holding it. Lightly grease barrel and insert into trunnion. Line up hole for pin before it can lock into place. Drift pin back in. If the barrel and trunnion were already an assembly, the headspace will most likely be fine. Still need to check it. If using a new barrel, it still has to be populated and it's possible using this method, you just gotta have patience and be meticulous.

Bottom line, we assembled a number of comrade K's goodies using nothing more than a bench vise, some drill bits, a rail road spike, modified center punch, hammer, MAP torch, some scrap steel. :D
 
Dave951 Speaking of caves, your mancave builds sound like 12 tons of fun. That was awesome to read.
​​
 
Back
Top Bottom