Bruen and NC knife law?

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Has GRNC done anything to push against NC law on fixed blade knives, slung shot, etc?

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North Carolina Knife Laws | American Knife and Tool Institute

North Carolina law, § 14-269, restricts the concealed carry of any bowie knife, dirk, dagger, razor, or “other deadly weapon of like kind,” except when one is on his own premises.
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§ 14-269. Carrying concealed weapons.
(a) It shall be unlawful for any person willfully andintentionally to carry concealed about his or her person any bowie knife, dirk,dagger, slung shot, loaded cane, metallic knuckles, razor, shuriken, stun gun,or other deadly weapon of like kind, except when the person is on the person'sown premises.
(a1) It shall be unlawful for any person willfully andintentionally to carry concealed about his or her person any pistol or gunexcept in the following circumstances:
(1) The person is on the person's own premises.
---- Everything else pertains to handguns only.
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Would be interesting to see how that applies to long guns as well, for example, rifle in case in back seat. Personally, I'd love to see it be fashionable again for men to walk around with rapiers. 😂
 
pinkbunny said:
Would be interesting to see how that applies to long guns as well, for example, rifle in case in back seat.
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What is the current law on having a rifle in your vehicle, concealed or non-concealed, loaded or otherwise? I've always been unclear on it and it seems whenever I Google it I find conflicting info.
 
Carlos Danger said:
What is the current law on having a rifle in your vehicle, concealed or non-concealed, loaded or otherwise? I've always been unclear on it and it seems whenever I Google it I find conflicting info.
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It’s clear as mud, honestly. The statute is not clear at all.
 
Carlos Danger said:
What is the current law on having a rifle in your vehicle, concealed or non-concealed, loaded or otherwise? I've always been unclear on it and it seems whenever I Google it I find conflicting info.
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28 years ago I walked in to the Cumberland Co. Sheriff's office to pick up my first handgun purchase permit. I was admonished by the clerk at the desk that the permit was good for the purchase of a handgun but did not "give" me the right to carry it concealed.

So I asked her some basic questions about what was considered open or concealed carry. Specifically whether a holster visible on my hip became a concealed weapon when I sat in my vehicle? She said that is up to the discretion and interpretation of the officer who stops me.

And that, folks is all you need to know about concealed carry law in NC.

Clear as mud right?
 
Good to know that at least I'm not the only one who can't figure it out.

What about carrying an SBR concealed, say, in a backpack? Is that legal with a concealed carry permit?
 
Carlos Danger said:
Good to know that at least I'm not the only one who can't figure it out.

What about carrying an SBR concealed, say, in a backpack? Is that legal with a concealed carry permit?
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No.

CHP applies to handguns.
 
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Carlos Danger said:
Good to know that at least I'm not the only one who can't figure it out.

What about carrying an SBR concealed, say, in a backpack? Is that legal with a concealed carry permit?
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No. A rifle is not covered by a concealed handgun permit.
 
I was today old when I found out what a slung shot is. (Not the past tense of sling shot, after all.) That particular application was never mentioned in the directions for how to tie a monkey fist knot.
 
Mathieu18 said:
Rifle- Can’t be concealed AND accessible.
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This goes back to whatever was the very first statute designed to give govt. enforcers a force advantage over people. They should have been told hell no and to get bent right then, right there.
 
>Peering through the mud> So 'premises' includes traveling in a vehicle, is that correct? Isn't that part of Castle Doctrine? So having a nice pointy dagger within close reach should someone try to enter the vehicle illegally to potentially cause harm would be OK?
 
I’ve been stopped plenty of times with a rifle behind the seat or between me and the center console to grab easy. I’ve never had any problems.

But yeah I think it’s all depending on how one acts when pulled over and how the officer feels. Be a butt or act weird and probably will get in trouble.
 
Carlos Danger said:
What is the current law on having a rifle in your vehicle, concealed or non-concealed, loaded or otherwise? I've always been unclear on it and it seems whenever I Google it I find conflicting info.
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I don’t believe any of our firearm statutes ever differentiate between loaded and unloaded.
 
That's the thing. According to Bruen, if you were charged with having a concealed long gun or a concealed fixed blade on or about your person, as I, as a lay person, read it you should be fine, and the NC statute should be struck down.

Course, that's after you've gone to jail and spent tens of thousands or more going through the courts.
 
pinkbunny said:
That's the thing. According to Bruen, if you were charged with having a concealed long gun or a concealed fixed blade on or about your person, as I, as a lay person, read it you should be fine, and the NC statute should be struck down.

Course, that's after you've gone to jail and spent tens of thousands or more going through the courts.
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your supermajority hard at work for you
 
BigWaylon said:
I don’t believe any of our firearm statutes ever differentiate between loaded and unloaded.
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I believe you are correct as far as NC law is concerned. I believe the "loaded vs unloaded" argument comes into play with the federal law when traveling through anti-2A states.
 
Forget knives. What about open carrying nunchucks? Couldn’t get a pic because my hands were full of groceries, but walked past a guy in Publix today with a pair/set/?? of nunchucks draped around his neck. Maybe the fact they were in the open makes it a non issue? 🤔🤣
 
Heres the problem. Are you carrying concealed when you have a pistol in an unlocked pistol case, or since it is designed for a pistol is it considered a form of open carry? If I carry a rifle in a case designed for its use, ie a ghost apparition bag it should be considered in the same manner. There is a case that I saw in Va where they arrested and convicted a guy for having a handgun in a zippered backpack on the front passengers seat for concealed carry without a permit. It was overturned on appeal, the appeals court opinion being that since it was in a zippered backpack it was considered secured, Myers v. Virginia.
 
pinkbunny said:


Has GRNC done anything to push against NC law on fixed blade knives, slung shot, etc?

www.akti.org

Bruen Decision - A First Glance | American Knife and Tool Institute

On June 23, 2022, the U.S. Supreme Court announced its decision in the case of New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc v Bruen. The knife community welcomes the confirmation of what we…
www.akti.org www.akti.org
www.akti.org

North Carolina Knife Laws | American Knife and Tool Institute

North Carolina law, § 14-269, restricts the concealed carry of any bowie knife, dirk, dagger, razor, or “other deadly weapon of like kind,” except when one is on his own premises.
www.akti.org www.akti.org



Would be interesting to see how that applies to long guns as well, for example, rifle in case in back seat. Personally, I'd love to see it be fashionable again for men to walk around with rapiers. 😂
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Katanas.
 
The statute on concealed lists stun guns, etc. I wonder how many people with taser type items in their possession realize they are breaking the law? Thinking self defense item.
 
NC-rifle said:
The statute on concealed lists stun guns, etc. I wonder how many people with taser type items in their possession realize they are breaking the law? Thinking self defense item.
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Probably, more than a few, but then I suspect that this sort of thing also falls into the if you’re not being a jerk or a thug, nobody is going to bother you over it.
 
BigWaylon said:
I don’t believe any of our firearm statutes ever differentiate between loaded and unloaded.
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Which makes sense if you think about it. Because the other guys has no idea whether it is or is not loaded.
 
BigWaylon said:
I don’t believe any of our firearm statutes ever differentiate between loaded and unloaded.
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I agree. I think there is a lot of what I call "media assumption" on the part of the general public. I remember the TV show Cops. When they find a weapon in a car the police would always grab the weapon and check it if was loaded and then a dramatic declaration of "one in the chamber or one in the pipe" upon which all the cops would act as if they barely escaped death because for sure the occupant was going to shoot them. We all know that a weapon without a round in the chamber is useless. It's not like we can give the attacker a command of "stop let me load this thing" and they will obey. So the unlearned public has assumed that it is illegal to have a round in the chamber. You can believe that criminals always have one in the chamber and law abiding citizens that are trained right will as well. I have trained with some of the best and when the one in the chamber question comes up they always say "just carry a rock if you are going to do that because its more accurate when thrown than a pistol". Sorry if off subject but I felt it needs to be brought up.
 
DannyStayzHome said:
I agree. I think there is a lot of what I call "media assumption" on the part of the general public. I remember the TV show Cops. When they find a weapon in a car the police would always grab the weapon and check it if was loaded and then a dramatic declaration of "one in the chamber or one in the pipe" upon which all the cops would act as if they barely escaped death because for sure the occupant was going to shoot them. We all know that a weapon without a round in the chamber is useless. It's not like we can give the attacker a command of "stop let me load this thing" and they will obey. So the unlearned public has assumed that it is illegal to have a round in the chamber. You can believe that criminals always have one in the chamber and law abiding citizens that are trained right will as well. I have trained with some of the best and when the one in the chamber question comes up they always say "just carry a rock if you are going to do that because its more accurate when thrown than a pistol". Sorry if off subject but I felt it needs to be brought up.
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Carrying with an empty chamber is the equivalent of riding without a seatbelt on assuming you’ll have time to put it on before you get in a wreck.

I can’t remember who I stole that from, but it’s always been a good analogy for me to use.
 
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