But the police are pro-2A and would never (insert absurd claim here)...

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Do we have any hope left?

I for one have no idea what I'll do if that day comes. I know what I think I'll do and what I tell my close friends but until the door falls into my living room and the flashbangs go off, I don't know.

If you wait until the flash bangs in your LR, you are planning to fail hard. The tens of thousands of militia that showed up overnight on April 19, 1775 didn’t wait for the Redcoats to come ransack their houses.
 
I love my dogs ( my wife more than me) but in truth they are the "bird in the coal mine"- you get past the fence and cap the dogs, that is the go time. Family to basement and anything thru the door is a target- thief, thug, cop, .gov...
 
Virginia Police kick all Virginians out of legislative session of their "Representatives" who are busily passing legislation to violate the natural and unalienable Rights of Man.

https://www.wric.com/news/politics/...clears-committee-crowd-ordered-out-by-police/

The cops are not pro-2A, they do not protect you, they don't serve you.

The protect, serve, and obey to political class that despises you, and are the armed muscle that will either force your submission or end your life.

People need to wake up to the fact that law enforcement,as it exists in these United States today, is the very standing army the Founding Generation so feared.

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I've had experiences with both good and bad cops. In my case, most of those experiences have been good. The few bad ones all involved one police agency that's known for their bad "bully" attitude, and I moved out of that town nearly 20 years ago.

If things come to blows over the 2A, we'll know for sure what side they take. I'm sure may will take the side that pays their checks. And I'm sure some will take our side as well. Unfortunately, things in the real world are rarely clear cut. There are a lot of gray areas. Keep your eyes and ears open.

I mostly stay out of these threads these days ( other than funny memes to troll) because it's like trying to convince a Bernie bro to vote for Trump, but do you guys really think that you are doing yourselves any favors with these "police are Nazis" threads? I mean, if you are concerned so much about it why would you GO OUT OF YOUR WAY (not your personally @RedneckFur, more you as in the general grouping of people that continually create these threads) to alienate them?! It's like.... "Gee I wonder if they hate us? Lets kick them in the balls continually and and then ask them how they feel about us!". Honestly it's asinine. Or it's "Oh, I've deployed 12 times and I know what it is like to be a cop and they are wrong!".... No dumb ass it's not at all the same and a good share of us are Veterans as well as cops. So we chose (CHOSE) to continue our Public Service while you ETS'd and went to do what ever the hell you are doing. Some of us have (are) actually making a difference and helping people every day.
 
I mostly stay out of these threads these days ( other than funny memes to troll) because it's like trying to convince a Bernie bro to vote for Trump, but do you guys really think that you are doing yourselves any favors with these "police are Nazis" threads? I mean, if you are concerned so much about it why would you GO OUT OF YOUR WAY (not your personally @RedneckFur, more you as in the general grouping of people that continually create these threads) to alienate them?! It's like.... "Gee I wonder if they hate us? Lets kick them in the balls continually and and then ask them how they feel about us!". Honestly it's asinine. Or it's "Oh, I've deployed 12 times and I know what it is like to be a cop and they are wrong!".... No dumb ass it's not at all the same and a good share of us are Veterans as well as cops. So we chose (CHOSE) to continue our Public Service while you ETS'd and went to do what ever the hell you are doing. Some of us have (are) actually making a difference and helping people every day.

Stop beating your wives, planting evidence, flashbanging kids, shooting innocent bystanders, murdering people begging for their lives, tasering restrained kids in their genitals until they die, kicking handcuffed women in the teeth, killing lawful concealed carriers because they informed you they had a weapon IAW the law, producing and distributing child pornography, raping teens with your partner in the back of a police van, lying to magistrates to obtain search warrants that result in killing innocent homeowners, stealing from folks without warrant nor charges filed, seizing guns extra-judicially because the politicians told you to, shooting folks in the back at stop signs, etc, etc ad nauseum.

If calling out this immoral behavior alienates you or makes you hate the People you claim to serve - that's an indictment on you, not the ones saying the above behavior is a serious problem.

The actions of law enforcement - and their response to being caught - is the sole contributor to the growing divide between law enforcement and the population at large. It's never been safer to be LE in these United States since the 1890s (according to the pro-police NLEOMF), yet as an institution you're convinced that you have targets on your backs and everybody is out to get you....when all evidence points to the exact opposite. The only thing that's changed is 9/11 Hero Worship ain't what it was a decade ago, and y'all just don't feel like the population kisses your asses like they should.

It's this collective paranoia, encouraged by folks like Dave Grossman, that drives this idea that what you do is a calling higher than violently enforcing the scribblings of politicians, regardless of the moral or constitutional basis or lack thereof.

It's not. You aren't made of finer clay.

The unwillingness of your profession to take a good long look in the mirror isn't going to help heal the divide between police and the People - if anything, it's exacerbating distrust and open hostility between the two.

I'm sorry you got your feelings hurt.
 
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Stop beating your wives, planting evidence, flashbanging kids, shooting innocent bystanders, murdering people begging for their lives, tasering restrained kids in their genitals until they die, kicking handcuffed women in the teeth, killing lawful concealed carriers because they informed you they had a weapon IAW the law, producing and distributing child pornography, raping teens with your partner in the back of a police van, lying to magistrates to obtain search warrants that result in killing innocent homeowners, stealing from folks without warrant nor charges filed, seizing guns extra-judicially because the politicians told you to, shooting folks in the back at stop signs, etc, etc ad nauseum.

If calling out this immoral behavior alienates you or makes you hate the People you claim to serve - that's an indictment on you, not the ones saying the above behavior is a serious problem.

The actions of law enforcement - and their response to being caught - is the sole contributor to the growing divide between law enforcement and the population at large. It's never been safer to be LE in these United States since the 1890s (according to the pro-police NLEOMF), yet as an institution you're convinced that you have targets on your backs and everybody is out to get you....when all evidence points to the exact opposite. The only thing that's changed is 9/11 Hero Worship ain't what it was a decade ago, and y'all just don't feel like the population kisses your asses like they should.

It's this collective paranoia, encouraged by folks like Dave Grossman, that drives this idea that what you do is a calling higher than violently enforcing the scribblings of politicians, regardless of the moral or constitutional basis or lack thereof.

It's not. You aren't made of finer clay.

The unwillingness of your profession to take a good long look in the mirror isn't going to help heal the divide between police and the People - if anything, it's exacerbating distrust and open hostility between the two.

I'm sorry you got your feelings hurt.

cmon man. Seriously. We all get that you’re a cop hater. Have you even met Sheepdog120? You lumping good people in with the bad and then being a dick to them when they speak up isn’t helping your case. Seriously. Lay off. This thread is 4 pages of you and a couple others being dicks to anyone who disagreed with you. Enough is enough already. Damn.
 
cmon man. Seriously. We all get that you’re a cop hater. Have you even met Sheepdog120? You lumping good people in with the bad and then being a dick to them when they speak up isn’t helping your case. Seriously. Lay off. This thread is 4 pages of you and a couple others being dicks to anyone who disagreed with you. Enough is enough already. Damn.

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And if you can’t figure out why the thread got locked, go look in the mirror
 
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