Cali gun seizure program not working

So they’re having trouble hiring people to strip others of their rights and property.

They hire recent college grads, train them for a year at $50-66k, then with experience under their belts, they go work for cities making almost 20% more.

So they don’t understand the constitution or economics. Shocking, I tell you. Shocking!
 
Not sure I’m understanding the numbers. The story mentions a budget of $24 million with the goal of collecting 20,000 firearms. Well, $24,000,000/20,000 is $1,200 per. Why not just offer $1,000 cash per gun turned in. They’d only need a clerk and some greenbacks. I’d turn mine in in a heartbeat!
 
Not sure I’m understanding the numbers. The story mentions a budget of $24 million with the goal of collecting 20,000 firearms. Well, $24,000,000/20,000 is $1,200 per. Why not just offer $1,000 cash per gun turned in. They’d only need a clerk and some greenbacks. I’d turn mine in in a heartbeat!
Lol stop using logic and a belief that the state can’t just take what they want.
 
They targeted 20,000 firearms but only got 11,000 of them so far. They stripped 11,000 (11,000) firearms from the residents of the state. That is a lot of firearms. I am all for getting the firearms out of the hands of criminals. I am not so sure about mental health issue bit. What does mental health issue mean? We know that liberalism is a mental disorder, so does that mean that any liberal can have firearms seized without a day in court? Who is going to determine what mental disorder disqualifies a person from firearm ownership? That is an open door for total gun confiscation.

Having targeted 20,000 firearms should be a clue to the nonthinking lawmakers that the gun control laws just do not work if 20,000 people can get firearms even if they are not supposed to have them. I suppose they will look at it as a need for more useless laws that only punish the honest people and that make life more dangerous for the citizens.

Liberals have no shame.
 
I am not so sure about mental health issue bit. What does mental health issue mean? We know that liberalism is a mental disorder, so does that mean that any liberal can have firearms seized without a day in court?
Great point.

Beyond the mental disorders, the democrat party seems to be infested with communists and socialists...it seems like they should be disarmed and even imprisoned before anyone else.
 
It sounds like they have taken a gun registry and run it against a database of criminals and mentally ill, and out popped a list of 20,000 problems.

So 20,000 people that are prohibited somehow acquired, and then registered, their gun?

I’m not sure that I’ve followed this correctly.
 
The hoods are laughing all the way to the next convenient store they plan on robbing.

I did not read in the article where it talked about the previous criminal convictions being felony convictions. Does the new law make any criminal conviction the basis for firearm confiscation? Could it be that many of those 11,000 firearms were legally possessed and registered but became subject to confiscation under a new law? I do not know. It does seem strange, as JimB mentioned, that a prohibited person would register a firearm that he can not possess legally.

This also points out the dangers of registration. They really do want to take your guns, all of them, by whatever means possible.
 
Staffing problems for that job? Go figure. Who wants to be the first bullet sponge through the door?

Edit to add: as the definition of “criminal” becomes more and more liberal and expansive, I can no longer in good conscience say “I’m all for keeping guns out of the hands of criminals”.
 
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Staffing problems for that job? Go figure. Who wants to be the first bullet sponge through the door?

Edit to add: as the definition of “criminal” becomes more and more liberal and expansive, I can no longer in good conscience say “I’m all for keeping guns out of the hands of criminals”.
It's what I've been trying to say all along. It's not just a law against criminals. It's a law against law abiding citizens. What people are failing to realize any attack on a citizens rights, is a attack on the Constitution itself. I'll take my punishment on the chin, but when everyone starts to realise that they are being made criminals for exercising their rights... Maybe they'll be ready to fight. I'll stand with those who, (even though they weren't willing to with me) are willing to stand for a citizens right when the time comes. Our way of life, freedoms that we've enjoyed are under attack... Daily. When is the People gonna wake up. We The People are under attack.
 
Edit to add: as the definition of “criminal” becomes more and more liberal and expansive, I can no longer in good conscience say “I’m all for keeping guns out of the hands of criminals”
Agree 100%, but not enough info to know who CA is actually targeting. 20,000 is a pretty small number, so it can’t be everyone that spit on the sidewalk. It’s CA so could be everyone that’s ever had a restraining order issued that also has a gun registered. As @Combat Diver pointed out, this is a symptom, the problem is registration, that is a line that can’t be crossed.

@Is this leagal? your issue is different. Part of the punishment for your crimes is that you don’t ever get to exercise your rights as enumerated in 2a, at least not with a firearm until you get a special ruling from a court. Maybe that’s not fair, but it is what it is, actions have consequences, etc etc etc. That said, should the shooting start those restrictions will have little meaning and you’ll have a huge advantage if you’ve maintained your physical conditioning.
 
It's what I've been trying to say all along. It's not just a law against criminals. It's a law against law abiding citizens.
I heard a blurb on the radio this morning that 1 in 4 Americans has a criminal record. It also went on to say that events from when they were young, continue to haunt them and result in being denied jobs and other opportunities decades later.
 
I heard a blurb on the radio this morning that 1 in 4 Americans has a criminal record. It also went on to say that events from when they were young, continue to haunt them and result in being denied jobs and other opportunities decades later.
I am very fortunate that I learned a very valuable skilled trade from my dad growing up. Criminal behavior was a result of my addiction... So once sober, it wasn't very hard to get back on top. I was brought up with a very strong work ethic. Some aren't provided that luxury, thus creating a repeat of criminal activity. At the end of the day, it all boils down to choices. I made some bad ones, learned from them, and moved on. I'm very thankful to have a clear head in todays environment. When called... I'll be ready. I strive to be wise as a serpant, but harmless as dove. Untill...
 
We The People are under attack.

We are and the Dems are trying to do this without violence so they can have clean hands. Until a hard reset occurs, they will continue to push and chip away at legal ownership. In the end there will be a event that triggers the people to say no more and like posted above, be ready. Training; supplies, ect. Be ready.

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