Can we get a transfer cost thread going?

Catawba Tackle & Marine in Rock Hill, $20. Plus they don't sell guns so I don't feel bad doing transfers there. I do get boots and some Carhartt stuff there.
 
Glad this thread was started. $20 is about all I'm willing to pay. Don't care if you support whatever. Money is money and over $20 is greedy IMO...

Toprudder said:
Nothing. Just their policy. Not sure exactly why, but I think they want to encourage buying new guns from them.
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Wait. They charge a transfer on their own guns?
 
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bigfelipe said:
Wait. They charge a transfer on their own guns?
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No. If you purchase a new gun and have it shipped to them for transfer, it is $35. If you have a USED gun shipped to them - $25.

That was the policy a couple of years ago when I had a used gun transferred through them. Don't know if that is still the case.
 
Jim's Guns
Raleigh (closer to Garner)
Jim Hunter
Ruger collector and expert.
Seasoned Citizen. Straight Talk. He also gets a lot of good "spiffs" or deals on Ruger's and passes them along.
Has nice collection for a small dealer.
I have bought 3 Ruger's from him and 1 Browning. Each time, the guns were as cheap or almost as cheap as shipping, insurance and his FFL.
The Browning Buck Mark was significantly cheaper from him than the best I found on Gun Deals (Slick Guns?).
$25 for FFL....coming or going. Will help with the ins and outs of the shipping if you are selling....but he only uses USPS...
UPS is a rip-off for shipping, but they probably do a better tracking job and you are more assured of a delivery...
 
You are correct. Not sure why I put Mebane.....lol
 
Toprudder said:
No. If you purchase a new gun and have it shipped to them for transfer, it is $35. If you have a USED gun shipped to them - $25.

That was the policy a couple of years ago when I had a used gun transferred through them. Don't know if that is still the case.
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That's the weirdest policy I've ever heard. New or used, same paperwork...
 
bigfelipe said:
That's the weirdest policy I've ever heard. New or used, same paperwork...
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I'd say it's not about the paperwork. With a used gun, they figure they didn't have the option to make the profit. With a new gun they did, and they'll recover $10 of it with the transfer.

Not as bad as some of the places that charge ridiculous prices for transfers from Bud's/etc. Like this crap from The Range @ Lake Norman:

  • FFL transfers* – $0.00 – $100.00 (varies by membership level, prices are per firearm)
    • Standard Transfers from shops not listed below – $40.00
    • Non-Members – Bud’s Gun shop/Cheaper Than Dirt/Gunbuyer.com/Impact Guns/grabagun transfers – $75.00
    • Palmetto State Armory/CDNN/Direct ship from any distributor – $100.00
 
BigWaylon said:
Not as bad as some of the places that charge ridiculous prices for transfers from Bud's/etc. Like this crap from The Range @ Lake Norman:

  • FFL transfers* – $0.00 – $100.00 (varies by membership level, prices are per firearm)
    • Standard Transfers from shops not listed below – $40.00
    • Non-Members – Bud’s Gun shop/Cheaper Than Dirt/Gunbuyer.com/Impact Guns/grabagun transfers – $75.00
    • Palmetto State Armory/CDNN/Direct ship from any distributor – $100.00
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Who's the owner, Mr. Dover? :eek:
 
BigWaylon said:
I'd say it's not about the paperwork. With a used gun, they figure they didn't have the option to make the profit. With a new gun they did, and they'll recover $10 of it with the transfer.

Not as bad as some of the places that charge ridiculous prices for transfers from Bud's/etc. Like this crap from The Range @ Lake Norman:

  • FFL transfers* – $0.00 – $100.00 (varies by membership level, prices are per firearm)
    • Standard Transfers from shops not listed below – $40.00
    • Non-Members – Bud’s Gun shop/Cheaper Than Dirt/Gunbuyer.com/Impact Guns/grabagun transfers – $75.00
    • Palmetto State Armory/CDNN/Direct ship from any distributor – $100.00
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That would be enough to make me shop elsewhere even if they were near me... Greedy scum...

Still don't the different transfer price for new vs used guns that come from somewhere else... Who are they recovering it from? Also, margins are much better on used guns than new. So that doesn't make sense either.
 
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bigfelipe said:
Still don't the different transfer price for new vs used guns that come from somewhere else... Who are they recovering it from? Also, margins are much better on used guns than new. So that doesn't make sense either.
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Not that it really matters, but I wanted to make sure my "theory" was clear.

With the used gun, if they didn't have one to sell, they're not losing the opportunity to make a profit on the firearm so they charge their normal rate.

With a new gun, they'd prefer you buy it from them so they make the profit on the firearm (since they wouldn't be charging a transfer fee)...which I assume is more than $25 in most instances. They're tacking on $10 to the transfer of a new gun to recover some of that missed profit opportunity.

I'm not saying I agree with it...only that I can see that being their justification. Hey, at least it's not the $100 fee for a transfer from PSA through TR@LN like I posted above. :D
 
BigWaylon said:
Not that it really matters, but I wanted to make sure my "theory" was clear.

With the used gun, if they didn't have one to sell, they're not losing the opportunity to make a profit on the firearm so they charge their normal rate.

With a new gun, they'd prefer you buy it from them so they make the profit on the firearm (since they wouldn't be charging a transfer fee)...which I assume is more than $25 in most instances. They're tacking on $10 to the transfer of a new gun to recover some of that missed profit opportunity.

I'm not saying I agree with it...only that I can see that being their justification. Hey, at least it's not the $100 fee for a transfer from PSA through TR@LN like I posted above. :D
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Often $25 is about the margin on a given handgun... I guess your theory makes sense, but it's still dumb policy...
 
bigfelipe said:
Often $25 is about the margin on a given handgun... I guess your theory makes sense, but it's still dumb policy...
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Part I dont understand is that I imagine on a new gun an FFL usually has capital at risk, eg order it from the distributor on their line of credit ( or has it in stock after some regular restock, same credit, or worse, COD at play) and only realizes any profit on a sale. Sure theres all kinds of Manufacturer deals or distributor deals but at the end of the day they aren't going to float the FFLs $ investment for very long. Any transfer that falls into their lap represents a profit opportunity without any capital investment by the FFL. If margins are as thin as some folks say, wouldn't the transfers be at net more interesting to the FFL ?
 
Alfred said:
Part I dont understand is that I imagine on a new gun an FFL usually has capital at risk, eg order it from the distributor on their line of credit ( or has it in stock after some regular restock, same credit, or worse, COD at play) and only realizes any profit on a sale. Sure theres all kinds of Manufacturer deals or distributor deals but at the end of the day they aren't going to float the FFLs $ investment for very long. Any transfer that falls into their lap represents a profit opportunity without any capital investment by the FFL. If margins are as thin as some folks say, wouldn't the transfers be at net more interesting to the FFL ?
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You would think...
 
In fact, I chatted with the owner of a small LGS about the crazy prices available online. He admitted he'd prefer to do FFL transfers because it is all profit with no inventory expense.
 
Toprudder said:
So, @bigfelipe , I've noticed you made 5 posts here but have not mentioned where you get your transfers done.
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Where it's convenient at the time. Usually, @TSConver these days, but sometimes Knightdale Pawn or Jim's in Garner. I've used probably 25 different places over the years. I plan stuff for where I'm going to be. Plenty of options out there. I spread it around...
 
$25 for the first gun and 15 for all guns order/received within 3 days. Police, 501c fund raisers and some military free of charge.
 
Jeppo said:
In fact, I chatted with the owner of a small LGS about the crazy prices available online. He admitted he'd prefer to do FFL transfers because it is all profit with no inventory expense.
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This. If you have a permit, I believe it is the cost of pen ink and pulling open a drawer. The form doesn't go anywhere unless the LGS goes out of business.
 
cjkgt97 said:
And I use Horneytown Guns and Ammo, both for the name and the $20/gun charge.
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That's the guy I was referring to in my earlier post. ;)
 
Some of these places have lost their minds. And so have the customers if they are paying those amts. Ive never paid over 21 for tx fees and never will.

The post above about the place at lkn- they should be ashamed.
 
"If you focus solely on price you lose track of value." there is way more than just "doing" the transfer. Like when you are audited and have to produce records and pull a sales person off the floor. Or filing said transfers. Dealing with shipper when the pos you bought turns up a turd. Calling the customer who takes a week to come get it. Different perspectives if you've ever been a ffl/sot. Hard to beat CGR for prompt professional service. Great value for the money on transfers.

Rare Rare I can't find what I want locally or on these boards local to rdu.
I walked in a store the other day and a form 4 with customers check was hanging up and was there next week. But hey cheap transfer. I'd be mildly upset to see my name address etc and check routing number and acct number displayed 24/7 for weeks. I don't go to the cheapest anything, dentist car repair etc. I look for the best professional service.
 
346ci said:
I get emails when NC decides there should be another tax charged for something, most "services" or "labor" can be charged tax now on top of the product also.
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Here is a link.

https://www.ncdor.gov/frequently-asked-questions-about/sales-and-use-tax-frequently-asked-questions

If you follow it, there is no regulation that requires or states that there is a tax on a processing fee. For example, if the FFL transfer fee is to be taxed, then all notaries or their agents (banks, lawyers, car dealers, etc.) would have to charge tax on the notary fees for real estate and auto purchase and “legal documents “.

I do not believe it is applicable.

The NC State legislators who passed this are of the same vein and ilk of the ones in DC that tend to be standing with the NRA and maintaining our second Ammendment rights. While I generally agree with what the local legislators do and support the current majority party, they like many of us have warts and have been known to have lapses in logic and common sense.

Out of curiosity, I have a friend in the NC Sales and Use Tax division. I shall inquire.

My take is that if a FFL is charging NC Sales tax on the FFL, then if they have an automated or computerized POS system, the tax will be passed on to the state....collected in error, but passed on. If it is a small business with no computer, then it will not be.
 
BigWaylon said:
I'd say it's not about the paperwork. With a used gun, they figure they didn't have the option to make the profit. With a new gun they did, and they'll recover $10 of it with the transfer.

Not as bad as some of the places that charge ridiculous prices for transfers from Bud's/etc. Like this crap from The Range @ Lake Norman:

  • FFL transfers* – $0.00 – $100.00 (varies by membership level, prices are per firearm)
    • Standard Transfers from shops not listed below – $40.00
    • Non-Members – Bud’s Gun shop/Cheaper Than Dirt/Gunbuyer.com/Impact Guns/grabagun transfers – $75.00
    • Palmetto State Armory/CDNN/Direct ship from any distributor – $100.00
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Same thing at Denver Defense... probably has something to do with the fact that the guy who owns The Range just purchased Denver Defense.
 
Atlas Firearms in Greensboro charges $20 for tansfers. They also install pistol sights for free if you buy them in the store.
 
Transfer costs have gotten outrageous but so is 50cents a mile for gas, oil, tires, depreciation, etc. I do the math now on selling and buying. A potential buyer asked me to lower my price on something I have for sale here by $50. I agreed if he would come and get it. 60 miles round trip for me is $30 break even. He declined.
 
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