CFF September 2018 Precision Rimfire Benchrest Match

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Attached is a target I found in my archives... It evidently came from a Czech (?) website called strelectvi.info that I cannot read. I can't find the target there to link to either, so I attached it.

Standard CFF Monthly Rimfire Benchrest Challenge Rules
- Target Size: Standard 8 1/2 x 11 paper - Choose the "Print to fit" option when printing.
- Target distance: 50 yards
- Any shooting position you'd like
- Front rests, bipods, front/rear shooting bags, bunny ears, ... etc. are all ok.
- No full length rifle mechanical rail/sled type rests allowed
- Iron sights or optics of your choice are all allowed
- All done on the honor system. Shoot it, score it, post it.
- Winner chooses the target and challenge for the next month.
- Post copy of your target, setup, where shot, and score

Scoring:
- 15 targets - A target is a spot (sizes vary) within each of the rings.
- 15 shots
- One shot per target
- A hit is touching the center spot (not the ring).
- The point value of each spot that is hit is below the ring around that spot.
- I don't know what a perfect score would be, but I doubt that it matters :)

Tie breaker, if needed, is the smallest (highest point value) target hit that the other didn't. So if 2 scores are 150, and one has a 20, 17, ... and the other has 20, 18, ... then the second one wins because the 18 is the highest scoring unmatched hit.

Have at it!
 

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We've shot that one before. Pretty fun. I'll see if the CZ scores any higher than the RAR did. :oops:

ETA: here's a link to the target: http://accurateshooter.net/Blog/dots001.pdf

(It was Sep '17...found that link in the thread)
 
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Thanks for finding those. I didn’t realize it was already used in the past.

OK. Has there been a Know Your Limits Target in the past? Cause this is perfect for that. Start on the big dots, shoot until you miss (you get a score of zero) or until you stop while everything is still a hit. Number of hits without missing is the score. Tiebreaker could be lowest number of attempts :)
 
JimP42 said:
Has there been a Know Your Limits Target in the past? Cause this is perfect for that. Start on the big dots, shoot until you miss (you get a score of zero) or until you stop while everything is still a hit. Number of hits without missing is the score. Tiebreaker could be lowest number of attempts :)
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Now this sounds interesting. I've been wanting to try this target for a while but KYL ups the ante!
 
JimP42 said:
Thanks for finding those. I didn’t realize it was already used in the past.

OK. Has there been a Know Your Limits Target in the past? Cause this is perfect for that. Start on the big dots, shoot until you miss (you get a score of zero) or until you stop while everything is still a hit. Number of hits without missing is the score. Tiebreaker could be lowest number of attempts :)
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Wanna just run the one posted for Sep? And then do the KYL for Oct?

We have several more shooters now that haven't done the one we did a year ago.

Nevermind...you're saying use this target in a different manner.

I say we use the target and shoot it both ways. Highest combined score wins? Or KYL scoring determines the winner and a "regular" attempt (once per dot) for the tie breaker?
 
I am fine either way. Not both though. Too complicated. Any more input before someone posts a score?
 
I love this target. I keep some in my range bag.

That is a tough decision on which scoring to use. Everyone will shoot a lot less per sheet, with KYL, but we won’t get to see if anyone can hit that top row. But, I like adding strategy components too.

I like both ways, I would vote for the idea of KYL. I am pretty sure that will get me the most entries.
 
Let me throw this out there. Same target both months, since choosing a target seems to be one of the hardest parts of the challenge.

September is once per dot, like we did last year...which gets you warmed up for Oct.
October is KYL.

That lets people shoot both at the same time if they can get to the range this month. And gives you two months to attempt the KYL as many times as you want.

Winner of Oct/KYL chooses November target?
Tie breaker for Oct is highest Sep score?
Tie breaker for Sep is smallest dot (highest value) hit? And if two hit the last one you work backwards until one of them missed?
 
BigWaylon said:
Let me throw this out there. Same target both months, since choosing a target seems to be one of the hardest parts of the challenge.

September is once per dot, like we did last year...which gets you warmed up for Oct.
October is KYL.

That lets people shoot both at the same time if they can get to the range this month. And gives you two months to attempt the KYL as many times as you want.

Winner of Oct/KYL chooses November target?
Tie breaker for Oct is highest Sep score?
Tie breaker for Sep is smallest dot (highest value) hit? And if two hit the last one you work backwards until one of them missed?
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Works for me. Only October KYLs count for the October match though.

That’s the same Sept tiebreaker I put in the original post.
 
Sounds good guys. I like how challenging this target is, so it will be fun!!

I changed my target setup this weekend, to move it into one of my trails through the woods (idea from one of the other setup someone had posted). The full shade is so much better than where I had it, and now I don’t have to shoot right into the sun anymore when the sun is going down. I could see clearly for two hours yesterday, and no eye strain headache. I also was able to use a new target setup with cardboard backing for the targets. Amazing how the bullet hole shapes change with cardboard behind it instead of the old wooden tabletop I had been using.

I got to get the Vudoo back out after giving it the month off to shoot one of my CZs for the last time before selling it. Amazing how going from 16x to 50x improves seeing those ships on lasts months target.
 
Well I went and shot the target today and apparently I did not see the second post by @JimP42 . I shot it per the first post instructions. Oh well. Hopefully I will make it out again to shoot this one.

The original post should probably be edited to show the new rule
 
ECNC said:
Well I went and shot the target today and apparently I did not see the second post by @JimP42 . I shot it per the first post instructions. Oh well. Hopefully I will make it out again to shoot this one.

The original post should probably be edited to show the new rule
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First post should be updated but You should be safe then. The Sept challenge is the same as he mentioned originally. One shot at each target, highest points win. KYL is for October.
 
Smok3y said:
First post should be updated but You should be safe then. The Sept challenge is the same as he mentioned originally. One shot at each target, highest points win. KYL is for October.
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Well duhhhh…… !!! Apparently I not only could not shoot well today, but I can not read either. Thank you @Smok3y for keeping this old man straight. So October will be KYL.
 
Here is my target. Score was 130. Not happy with it, but it is what it is. Also forgot to take pic of set up. It was my normal though. Hopefully will get another chance to shoot it. Will be at the range again this week, but to work not shoot.

Anschutz 64 Sbr
Eley Target
Front Rest
Time: 0900
Wind: NE 8mph
Temp: 86
Sunny

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ECNC said:
Here is my target. Score was 130. Not happy with it, but it is what it is. Also forgot to take pic of set up. It was my normal though. Hopefully will get another chance to shoot it. Will be at the range again this week, but to work not shoot.

Anschutz 64 Sbr
Eley Target
Front Rest
Time: 0900
Wind: NE 8mph
Temp: 86
Sunny
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Glad you made it out this month. I hope you find time to get a few more in. Fall gets really busy for me, so I am going to have to find time after work more often before dinner.
 
Shot it twice today. 3 hits on one, 2 on the other.

Sad thing was the 3 hits was my RAR with a 2-7X. Only managed 2 with my CZ455 and 6-18X. :mad:
 
Well, I finished up my tries on Sunday. I shot a 210, and missed 22,24,28. It was one of a couple that I made it to 22 before missing. I actually thought another sheet was going to beat it, but then went up and realized I didn't shoot at 15. I went back and shot at 15, thinking it was a gimme, and missed it. So this one is the best this month.

Shot with the Vudoo from previous pictures with S&B scope. I just realized that I haven't taken pictures with this setup. I thought I had already taken pics with this scope, but guess not. I will post an update with picture of the rifle later. Same table as usual with same bipod and bean bag rear rest. Shot as usual on my property.
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Smok3y said:
Well, I finished up my tries on Sunday. I shot a 210, and missed 22,24,28. It was one of a couple that I made it to 22 before missing. I actually thought another sheet was going to beat it, but then went up and realized I didn't shoot at 15. I went back and shot at 15, thinking it was a gimme, and missed it. So this one is the best this month.

Shot with the Vudoo from previous pictures with S&B scope. I just realized that I haven't taken pictures with this setup. I thought I had already taken pics with this scope, but guess not. I will post an update with picture of the rifle later. Same table as usual with same bipod and bean bag rear rest. Shot as usual on my property.
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Very nice! I am going to try to shoot it again Tuesday. I hope I can do as well. I also have done what you did and not shot at one of the targets. I could kick myself each time.
 
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Smok3y said:
Shot with the Vudoo from previous pictures with S&B scope. I just realized that I haven't taken pictures with this setup. I thought I had already taken pics with this scope, but guess not. I will post an update with picture of the rifle later. Same table as usual with same bipod and bean bag rear rest. Shot as usual on my property.
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Remind me...what ammo?
 
BigWaylon said:
This stuff?

https://www.brownells.com/ammunitio...ong-rifle-40gr-lead-round-nose-prod59255.aspx

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That is it, but cheaper at Grafs.com. Actually, it appears they have increased their price. They have always had it cheaper than anyone at $6.99, but must have recently increased their price. Many people have said Pistol Match is as good or better at $5.99. I only had a very small sample size to compare them, but Pistol Match wasn’t quite as good. Slightly less consistent, but very close. With the new batch of RM I received, PM might be closer.
Wolf Match Extra was supposedly the same as RM, before the recent move to have Eley start making it instead of Lapua.
 
Yes! Yes! Yes! Finally had a GREAT DAY with this damn target. I am never shooting this one again!!!! 242 !!!! Let me say again I hate this damn target!!!

Anschutz 64 Sbr
Eley Match Black box (new brick GREAT BRICK)
Front Rest and rear sand bag
Time: 0915
Wind: SE 0-2
Temp: 82
Heavily over cast. Humidity 85%

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ECNC said:
Yes! Yes! Yes! Finally had a GREAT DAY with this damn target. I am never shooting this one again!!!! 242 !!!! Let me say again I hate this damn target!!!

Anschutz 64 Sbr
Eley Match Black box (new brick GREAT BRICK)
Front Rest and rear sand bag
Time: 0915
Wind: SE 0-2
Temp: 82
Heavily over cast. Humidity 85%

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Phenomenal shooting. Nice setup to shoot from too. That looks comfy and that rest looks pretty sweet too. What is that?

Dang it!! Now, I have to print off some more and go back out there!!! That is going to be hard to beat! I don’t know when I can find time though. With the Late Model race at Martinsville Saturday and having to work Sunday, I might run out of time. Hopefully this Sunday evening will be nicer than last Sunday. The paper was wet and it never rained!

Man that is sweet shooting. Great job!
 
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Smok3y said:
That is it, but cheaper at Grafs.com. Actually, it appears they have increased their price. They have always had it cheaper than anyone at $6.99, but must have recently increased their price. Many people have said Pistol Match is as good or better at $5.99. I only had a very small sample size to compare them, but Pistol Match wasn’t quite as good. Slightly less consistent, but very close. With the new batch of RM I received, PM might be closer.
Wolf Match Extra was supposedly the same as RM, before the recent move to have Eley start making it instead of Lapua.
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I have been reading your posts and @BigWaylon post on this ammo. I found it here http://ammunitionstore.com/products/22lr-ammo-sk-lapua-40gr-rifle-match-500-round-box.html . I did not check cost of shipping, but price seemed to be ok. I may order a brick to see how I like it. Looking for something good but cheaper then Eley black box. Eley target does not seem to be as good as it once was.
 
Smok3y said:
Phenomenal shooting. Nice setup to shoot from too. That looks comfy and that rest looks pretty sweet too. What is that?

Dang it!! Now, I have to print off some more and go back out there!!! That is going to be hard to beat! I don’t know when I can find time though. With the Late Model race at Martinsville Saturday and having to work Sunday, I might run out of time. Hopefully this Sunday evening will be nicer than last Sunday. The paper was wet and it never rained!

Man that is sweet shooting. Great job!
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Thank you. I do not get many days like this anymore and it is very sweet when I do.

The rest is a Caldwell Rock. This is one of the old ones and I have been told that the new ones have less movement and cost less then what I paid for mine years ago. Mine does move quite a bit, but you learn it's quirks it is fine. I have just started using a rear bag recently and that has been a great help.
 
ECNC said:
I meant to add I have been practicing using a rear sand b


I have been reading your posts and @BigWaylon post on this ammo. I found it here http://ammunitionstore.com/products/22lr-ammo-sk-lapua-40gr-rifle-match-500-round-box.html . I did not check cost of shipping, but price seemed to be ok. I may order a brick to see how I like it. Looking for something good but cheaper then Eley black box. Eley target does not seem to be as good as it once was.
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Thanks for the link on the Rifle Match. I will need to find a new source if Grafs keeps their price up, so I will check out these guys. CenterX is a more direct comparison with Eley Black if you are interested. It is $10.50-11 usually, but that is still much more than RM and I rarely find a need for that extra consistency. Although, it looks like I might have to pull out my final box to see if I can beat you.

I still have a free shipping coupon at Grafs, so I may get some Pistol Match. I had good luck with the new Flat Nose too, and it is around $6.
 
Smok3y said:
Thanks for the link on the Rifle Match. I will need to find a new source if Grafs keeps their price up, so I will check out these guys. CenterX is a more direct comparison with Eley Black if you are interested. It is $10.50-11 usually, but that is still much more than RM and I rarely find a need for that extra consistency. Although, it looks like I might have to pull out my final box to see if I can beat you.

I still have a free shipping coupon at Grafs, so I may get some Pistol Match. I had good luck with the new Flat Nose too, and it is around $6.
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Thanks for the info on Center X. Believe me the day I had today are far and few between these days. The older I get the shakier I get. I think I will order both tonight and see what I can do. I normally just use the black box for USBR targets and ARA targets, but the last brick I bought just was not that great.
 
SK Rifle Match is 7.75 a box at Champion's Choice right now (champchoice.com)
7.50 or 695 a case at Champion Shooters (championshooters.com), but out of stock presently.

Those two places are where I get good 22 from 90% of the time.
 
Had a good at the range today, still getting used to the Savage BTVSS, only the third time Ive shot in almost 4 years.
Savage BTVSS
Caldwell Rock front rest and bunny ears for the back
Wolf Match ammo.
Looks like a 153 for me..
 

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It just dawned on me that we are shooting this target again next month as a KYL target. :mad: You guys suck. I just say'n!!! :D
 
Lager said:
Had a good at the range today, still getting used to the Savage BTVSS, only the third time Ive shot in almost 4 years.
Savage BTVSS
Caldwell Rock front rest and bunny ears for the back
Wolf Match ammo.
Looks like a 153 for me..
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Isn't that 24 a hit? Looks like it in the picture.
 
ECNC said:
Isn't that 24 a hit? Looks like it in the picture.
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Looks to me like the hole is outside of the black, but it might have torn into the black?

@Lager can look at it again and decide.
 
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