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Home invasion relatively close to where i live. Got me thinking, How much time do you really think YOU need from waking up in a complete dead sleep, to being armed and alert to deal with MULTIPLE threats? Maybe a minute from glass break or alarm sounding? What would you do? I personally wouldnt go searching, I would camp at my stairs top because all my kids and family are upstairs, and just guard that funnel. Call 911 and hope they were not dumb enough to try and come upstairs. Thoughts???

https://www.cbs17.com/news/local-ne...ome-invasion-sheriff-s-office-says/1535418307
 
I wake up alert to the point of “crazy awake”.

I have always searched and always will, it’s just in my make up.

Someday it may bite me but I’ll just take my chances.
 
This is a topic that I think about a bit. My home is set up with the kids upstairs and me and the wife downstairs. If I heard glass break, or a door bust, I effectively have less than 30 seconds. Our house isn't all that big, so if the "bad guys" came in with any vigor, as in they weren't trying to be stealthy, knew we were home, and were wanting to harm us, then time is short.

I do, however, have two dogs that sleep within 3 feet of us at all times (sometimes closer) and while I don't have any illusions that they will spring into battle mode and protect us, I do think they will give me a decent warning, or at least cause some confusion as they rush to see who is coming in. I keep a bedside safe with an FNX45 with 15+1 on board along with a Smith 642 that I have to hand my wife. The "plan" is for me to grab mine, hand her hers. Her job is to make it to the stairs and up to the kids rooms, mine job is to make sure she gets there.
 
Every third day I’m paid to wake up and be on the fire truck and enroute to a call in less than 70 seconds or less. My sons room and our room are on the far end of the house from any door. I feel like I can be ready in time to tell them to smile and wait for the flash.


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I do, however, have two dogs that sleep within 3 feet of us at all times (sometimes closer) and while I don't have any illusions that they will spring into battle mode and protect us, I do think they will give me a decent warning,

And that's all you can realistically ask of them. I'm in the same boat, Lucy is about as docile as they come but will alert me to anything going on inside, or outside the house. From that point on it's up to me to take appropriate actions. She's done her job..
 
This isnt a shot at you at all but a genuine question, are you saying you believe theres no hope at all then to be able to protect if the REASON they are there is to harm you or yours?
Not saying you should give up, just drop all the macho facade and accept that reaction looses to action most every time.

Then there's the fact that home invasions rarely happen and exponentially more rare for one to happen to someone who isn't a criminal to begin with.
 
30 seconds, 70 seconds pretty quick... except the bad guys will be on you in 10.

I have 70 seconds to go from dead asleep to up and dressed, walk 60’ go down a set of stairs and then get my gear on and get in the truck and get out the door. I believe I can wake up get my rifle out of my hornady rfid wall safe and be ready to ambush them in the hall.


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I've never planned or conducted a home invasion but I wonder why those 2 guys picked a house at the end of a cul de sac. Makes me wonder whether this was random.
 
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I live in a fairly large three story house. I sleep alone in our walk out basement. My wife and son are both armed and sleep on the third floor. My bedroom in the basement has no windows and is underground on three sides. The stairwell leading up to the second floor is beside my bed. If they come in through the basement, (most likely) they have to get through a heavy locked wood door and then get past me and my semi-auto 12 gauge to get to the stairs. If they pull that off, then they will have to deal with my wife and son shooting at them from an elevated position overlooking the foyer where they would have to be to get to the third floor stairs.

If they come in on the second floor, they will be sandwiched between three armed residents coming from both directions.
 
I've done tree consultations for several of the families that live in that neighborhood. Talk about scary.
 
I've never been an early riser or an easy riser. I'm going to have to rely on adrenaline and good luck!
 
We own a building downtown and have converted the upstairs into a large living area (rent a portion of the downstairs to an antique shop). The layout of the upstairs has created two choke points - stairs and a narrow hallway that connects the living and sleeping areas. We also have four dogs that make when ever there is any actvity outside our privacy fence. Even though I am a heavy sleeper it would take an act of God for someone to get halfway up the stairs unnoticed. I keep a Beretta 120 FLP by the bed loaded with 3" #4 buckshot and Benelli Nova loaded with the same in the living area. I keep an beater G22 in a drawer by the front door incase something happpens when we are doing laundry, letting the dogs out etc.
 
The shelving in our office closet fell at about 3am one night and I thought we were being invaded. Grabbed the G23 with WML, only to find out it had dead batteries. Grabbed the Fenix light I kept at the time in case of a power outage, turned it on and was almost blinded as it was on the high setting. Learned a few different lessons that night.... Having a plan in your mind, is a bit different if you haven't actually practiced it.
 
If they come in the back door, they'll be right on top of the main bedroom...I should be able to be ready for them because we have very thick doors of old, really hard wood, and I'd hear the commotion of them trying to get in. If they come in the front, all the better, as then I'll have time to get out into the hall. If they break a window, I'll hear the sensors going off, not to mention glass breaking. And in any area they go, there are sensors that will text my phone. My gun is by the bed, ready to go, when I'm asleep, and on my person in the daytime. Not to mention they'll be on several cameras, which won't help me survive necessarily, but will at least get their faces seen. And there are motion sensor lights all over the place outside.
I'm sure I'm missing something I could be doing, but this is what I've got so far. Feel free to add any ideas anyone might have!
 
I wouldn't have thought that about tree consultations.
Tree's 'll get ya man. Bite yer head off

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A lot of the "time" depends on the type of house you have. I have a pretty simple floor plan, so it wont take as long for "bad guys" to figure out where we all are. Someone like Qball with a 3 story house with various rooms and hallways will be more difficult. Unless they have been to your house before.
 
And that's all you can realistically ask of them. I'm in the same boat, Lucy is about as docile as they come but will alert me to anything going on inside, or outside the house. From that point on it's up to me to take appropriate actions. She's done her job..
I used to think that about my dog Pete. Last year he woke me up from a dead ass sleep going berserk. When I went to go check things out I caught a local crack head in our fenced in courtyard trying to get into the garage. Pete got around me when I opened the door and for lack of a better description treed the POS on our patio table after taking a chunk out of his ass. Pete is fat,lazy,independant,hard headed beagle/fox hound cross and the best dog I have ever owned.
 
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Hopefully enough time.
If they get in the Rottie will go bat guano crazy, they'll need to get to the other end of the house to multiple doors.
By then an AR, G23 and flashlight will be in my wife and I's hands.
 
Not to downplay anyone's preps but don't depend on the dog to do anything except bark or growl and ALERT you that something ain't right. Each dog is different and when I had Bailey (90# Lab) she could, and would back up her bark and growl with action detrimental to your health.
She once kept a guy at bay when LJ was walking her in the back of our subdivision and basically held him there until I arrived after LJ called me. LJ had warned him to not come any closer and that's when Bailey went off on him. Lucy (35# mixed breed) on the other hand would have wanted for him to play ball with her..... Different dogs with different temperaments and abilities.
 
Not to downplay anyone's preps but don't depend on the dog to do anything except bark or growl and ALERT you that something ain't right. Each dog is different and when I had Bailey (90# Lab) she could, and would back up her bark and growl with action detrimental to your health.
She once kept a guy at bay when LJ was walking her in the back of our subdivision and basically held him there until I arrived after LJ called me. LJ had warned him to not come any closer and that's when Bailey went off on him. Lucy (35# mixed breed) on the other hand would have wanted for him to play ball with her..... Different dogs with different temperaments and abilities.
I agree but at the same time a dog's reaction will often suprise you, especially if they have bonded with a child.
 
Home invasion is such a catch all phrase anymore. But, some of you guys need better perimeters. Sensor lights can go a long way in discouraging night time burglary/robbery, especially if you have them tied to some sort if annunciator or chime in. Hardened entryways to slow intrusion down. Simply replacing door latch screws with long decking screws helps. I've known some that simply jam a door stop in the door before retiring. But, the further out you can put perimeter resistance the better.
 
Mike, how long is your driveway?
 
My thoughts on this are basically for a home invasion your door locks (door knob lock, dead bolt, chain, whatever) don’t give you any real protection ... just a busted door jam if kicked properly. We installed kick blocks that I doubt anyone can take out in quickly enough with out making all kinds of noise and set off my door alarm sensors to make the mad 10 second rush ... I’m hoping for 30-40 seconds if they are bound and determined. The blocks we used are kinda like these ... https://www.amazon.com/Nightlock-Re..._rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=C9WM7AVZCWRPFM9A2CW9 ... which are easy I install and easy to use. I know it won’t stop a determined attack but I do believe they’ll give me extra precious seconds. There are other precautions I’ve taken from lighting to landscaping to deter criminals from trying along with a few other things but these I hope would buy a few seconds if needed.
 
I guess the ultimate would be to just fence in your entire property and if you have the room for them, just set four or five of these things loose to roam the perimeter.:D


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What ever your plan is, at least have 4 more. Whatever is going down isn't going to go according to plan, be flexible, adaptable.

Remote light switches to distract attention to other rooms in the house, I think are money well spent. Desk lamps, stereos, strobe lights, use your imagination, keep the remote on your nightstand.

Controlling the chaos and avoiding the fight is my goal.
 
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#1 I Pray to the Amighty for protection of all my family and friends

# 2 I have a Tac-14 with a PB loaded with 00 buck pretty close not to mention three ACD’s on OW duty outside 24-7
 
Home invasion relatively close to where i live. Got me thinking, How much time do you really think YOU need from waking up in a complete dead sleep, to being armed and alert to deal with MULTIPLE threats? Maybe a minute from glass break or alarm sounding? What would you do? I personally wouldnt go searching, I would camp at my stairs top because all my kids and family are upstairs, and just guard that funnel. Call 911 and hope they were not dumb enough to try and come upstairs. Thoughts???

https://www.cbs17.com/news/local-ne...ome-invasion-sheriff-s-office-says/1535418307


Here’s my answer to each question here........Battery Oaks ......see @BatteryOaksBilly for more details. There are opportunities available to train and prepare for many incidents that life can present.
 
As said before home invasions are pretty rare. Unless you are a criminal or possibly onviously wealthy and thus a target the odds of a home invasion are probably lower than you winning MegaMillions tonight or being accidentally swatted by the police. So my plan is to feed the criminals my wife while I save the kids. Sorry Honey, but I had to make a choice.

Like they say, when running from the bear you don't have to be the fastest, just not the slowest.
 
After twenty + years of "General Quarters, General Quarters man your Battle stations" I move pretty good while waking up and wake up fast. I also live out in the country and when they turn into the drive way the dogs will go crazy
 
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