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While taking photos I'll stand stupidly close to the 180 line during a course of fire, as an RO does this distract you in any way? I always talk to shooters about it to make sure they're comfortable, but I've never really asked an RO's if I'm a secondary distraction.
 
Trigger_Pull;n44887 said:
While taking photos I'll stand stupidly close to the 180 line during a course of fire, as an RO does this distract you in any way? I always talk to shooters about it to make sure they're comfortable, but I've never really asked an RO's if I'm a secondary distraction.
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I'm certain if it were, the RO would say something. As long as you're not like 2' from a target that's also close to the 180*, I don't imagine I'd have a problem with it.

I had someone with a camera ask me (the RO) to stand in a different position than where I had been standing while watching the shooter once, but because it was where I needed to be to see things I declined, and he got butthurt about it.
 
Trigger_Pull;n44887 said:
While taking photos I'll stand stupidly close to the 180 line during a course of fire, as an RO does this distract you in any way? I always talk to shooters about it to make sure they're comfortable, but I've never really asked an RO's if I'm a secondary distraction.
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Can honestly say you've never bothered me.
 
FlatFender;n44841 said:
Jht05016

I'm guessing it's because they're so long they're a PITA to reload.
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That's correct.it's a tradeoff between capacity and ease of reloading. I load to a bigstick If it's beneficial for stage planning only. However I also run 155s 27rds it's a good compromise to reload to.
 
Wolffy said:
Trigger_Pull;n44887 said:
While taking photos I'll stand stupidly close to the 180 line during a course of fire, as an RO does this distract you in any way? I always talk to shooters about it to make sure they're comfortable, but I've never really asked an RO's if I'm a secondary distraction.
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Can honestly say you've never bothered me.
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Im the same way.
 
Butter;n65104 said:
FlatFender

Thoughts on race vs kydex holsters for USPSA limited
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I'm honestly not qualified to answer this, as I've never used one.

I will say though that I can rip .8 draws on a good day from my Production holster, and I don't see too many folks going that fast or faster at matches with race holsters, so I'm not sure they're really worth the money though, but like I said, I've never used one.
 
Question from someone who hasn't shot a 1911 in CDP in IDPA yet, but planning to soon.

When you start a stage with three 8 round mags and the SO says "Load and make ready". Do you load, and start the stage with 7 +1? Or load a round from your third mag, then return that mag to your belt, then load a full 8 round mage to start the stage? So you start 8+1, with an 8 and then 7 on your belt.
 
fieldgrade;n65142 said:
Question from someone who hasn't shot a 1911 in CDP in IDPA yet, but planning to soon.

When you start a stage with three 8 round mags and the SO says "Load and make ready". Do you load, and start the stage with 7 +1? Or load a round from your third mag, then return that mag to your belt, then load a full 8 round mage to start the stage? So you start 8+1, with an 8 and then 7 on your belt.
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Most folks keep a "barney mag" in their back pocket that they chamber a round from, and then put it back in their pocket, and stuff in another full mag.
 
Butter;n65104 said:
FlatFender

Thoughts on race vs kydex holsters for USPSA limited
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Biggest advantage is race holster allows accessories on the gun with no modification to the holster. Thumb rest, slide racker, frame weights, etc.
 
fieldgrade;n65142 said:
Question from someone who hasn't shot a 1911 in CDP in IDPA yet, but planning to soon.

When you start a stage with three 8 round mags and the SO says "Load and make ready". Do you load, and start the stage with 7 +1? Or load a round from your third mag, then return that mag to your belt, then load a full 8 round mage to start the stage? So you start 8+1, with an 8 and then 7 on your belt.
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When the SO says "loaded and topped off", they mean mags loaded to division capacity or magazines full capacity if they are lower than division capacity, and a round in the chamber. So if your shooting CDP it helps to have the fourth mag to Barny load from. If you Barny load from your third mag and just put it back into your magazine carrier with out topping it off, technically you are wrong, as all of your mags must be fully loaded to division capacity. A lot of people put that fourth mag in the pocket of their vest covering their gun for a little more weight when flipping the vest out of the way for the draw. If that makes any sense.
 
Wolffy;n65910 said:
Biggest advantage is race holster allows accessories on the gun with no modification to the holster. Thumb rest, slide racker, frame weights, etc.
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Good call. That makes a lot of sense.
 
FlatFender;n65126 said:
I'm honestly not qualified to answer this, as I've never used one.

I will say though that I can rip .8 draws on a good day from my Production holster, and I don't see too many folks going that fast or faster at matches with race holsters, so I'm not sure they're really worth the money though, but like I said, I've never used one.
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What would you say is the difference between a 1.1 draw/fire (me) and doing that at .8? And yes, other than .3 seconds. :)

I dry firing pretty regularly, and I'm fairly competitive. But I can't seem to draw sub 1 second. I use a vertically oriented kydex holster. Just can't imagine cutting off that much time from what I'm doing.

Edit - I do prep the trigger, I bring straight out from the holster (don't press out from the chest as much as some)...
 
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Have gun-will travel;n75298 said:
I would love to do some competitions but running is out of the question, BAD KNEES. Any PPC matches around? Or any matches that are not based on time rather than accuracy?
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What part of the state are you in?

I know there's still a monthly Bullseye league at the Wake County range.

I will tell you that there are plenty of folks with bad knees that come shoot competitions for fun/fellowship that aren't really trying to win it.
 
FlatFender;n75300 said:
What part of the state are you in?

I know there's still a monthly Bullseye league at the Wake County range.

I will tell you that there are plenty of folks with bad knees that come shoot competitions for fun/fellowship that aren't really trying to win it.
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I live between Henderson ,NC and Clarksville ,VA .Kerr Lake area. I'm about an hour North of Durham 13 miles off I-85
 
nchiker1;n70040 said:
What would you say is the difference between a 1.1 draw/fire (me) and doing that at .8? And yes, other than .3 seconds. :)

I dry firing pretty regularly, and I'm fairly competitive. But I can't seem to draw sub 1 second. I use a vertically oriented kydex holster. Just can't imagine cutting off that much time from what I'm doing.

Edit - I do prep the trigger, I bring straight out from the holster (don't press out from the chest as much as some)...
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In case anyone was interested in an answer, Ben B messaged me on the other forum because his account on here was still awaiting verification. It exactly described how I'm shooting, here's his response...

"I saw your question on Luke's thread about draws and wanted to answer but my new account is in a moderation queue.

Without seeing your draw it's hard to really answer definitively, but I have two responses.

One is that you can always get faster. Always.

The other is that there's a .3ish difference between perception and action in the human brain. You can prove this to yourself by holding your shot timer in one hand and hold your other hand about six inches away. Set it to random and hit the start button. When the buzzer goes off, slap the timer. If it's less than .30 you're a superhuman. Congrats!

That extra .3-.4 is the time it takes to see your sights and react to it by pressing the trigger. When we talk about a .8 draw, it's seeing the sights and hearing the end beep both about the same time at .8. If you were going to confirm your sight picture before pulling the trigger, that's where you add a .3 reaction time and end up around 1.1.

To a certain degree drawing to a 7 yard open target and shooting in less than a second is a matter of feeling your arms and hands being in the right place and not waiting to see your sights per se.

Hope that helps." -Ben B
 
Have gun-will travel;n75298 said:
I would love to do some competitions but running is out of the question, BAD KNEES. Any PPC matches around? Or any matches that are not based on time rather than accuracy?
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NRA Action pistol( Bianchi Cup) Bedford Rifle and Pistol 1st Saturday Bedford VA.
Tom
 
Oh great Swammi of the Contest,
Having read all I can stand about IDPA SSP and ESP, am I correct to assume that guy's shooting a 1911 are automatically hoisted into the ESP division? Most if not all 1911 pistols being SAO?

I was really psyched to imagine that I would shoot my sissy pistol in SSP.....But it is SAO. So now I look at ESP, and learn it may not fit in the box or make weight. What now? USPSA? Will it even make the grade there without being thrown into even higher divisions?

So is my answer that I should have bought a CZ SP01 long ago?
 
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The Green Heron;n79679 said:
Oh great Swammi of the Contest,
Having read all I can stand about IDPA SSP and ESP, am I correct to assume that guy's shooting a 1911 are automatically hoisted into the ESP division? Most if not all 1911 pistols being SAO?

I was really psyched to imagine that I would shoot my sissy pistol in SSP.....But it is SAO. So now I look at ESP, and learn it may not fit in the box or make weight. What now? USPSA? Will it even make the grade there without being thrown into even higher divisions?

So is my answer that I should have bought a CZ SP01 long ago?
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Sao will put you in ESP, no doubt.

What gun is it? How much does it weigh?
 
The Green Heron;n79679 said:
Oh great Swammi of the Contest,
Having read all I can stand about IDPA SSP and ESP, am I correct to assume that guy's shooting a 1911 are automatically hoisted into the ESP division? Most if not all 1911 pistols being SAO?

I was really psyched to imagine that I would shoot my sissy pistol in SSP.....But it is SAO. So now I look at ESP, and learn it may not fit in the box or make weight. What now? USPSA? Will it even make the grade there without being thrown into even higher divisions?

So is my answer that I should have bought a CZ SP01 long ago?
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I think 1911 in .45acp is CDP. trcubed
 
FlatFender;n79772 said:
Sao will put you in ESP, no doubt.

What gun is it? How much does it weigh?
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Witness Elite Match
spec says it weighs 44 oz. So....It's a no go. I guess I could actually weigh it but I'm sure it's every ounce of 44.

It's not like I don't have plenty of pistols that I can shoot easily in IDPA.
 
In USPSA is it okay to have magazines in a back or side pocket instead of a magazine carrier attached to your belt?
 
billyh;n79946 said:
In USPSA is it okay to have magazines in a back or side pocket instead of a magazine carrier attached to your belt?
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Yes with some exceptions. But for a new shooter at a local match it's fine.
 
Have gun-will travel;n75305 said:
I live between Henderson ,NC and Clarksville ,VA .Kerr Lake area. I'm about an hour North of Durham 13 miles off I-85
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You might consider trying out the Durham 2 Gun Rimfire matches. I've shot IDPA and F Class rifle, benchrest .22, etc. Steel matches are my favorite. The Rimfire matches have zero movement, though it is based on time. If you have a .22 of some kind, come out and join us.

PM me for more information or Cmercaldo . Link to match signup can be found in this thread as well as description of the courses of fire:
 
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SimonStern;n80973 said:
Will the Sig P320 X5 be USPSA Production legal with the iron sites? With the magwell removed?
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Being that Phil Strader is behind it (former USPSA president) I suspect it will be, but we've gotta wait for NROI to make their ruling on it.

If not, it'll be a flop.
 
InvisibleOne;23811 said:
Great info! I've been wanting to get into some competitive shooting for a while, now. Hoping for something within an hour drive (roughly) of Stokes county.
It sounds like PHA is going to be the closest one. Know of any that would be closer? For those who haven't been here, I'm north of Winston-Salem, east of Pilot Mtn.
I've been thinking either pistol or 3 gun. Thanks!
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I'm over a month late, but anyway, I'm just South of King. PHA has defensive pistol and two gun and is the closest. I go to Rowan, Statesville, and occassionally CGGR's USPSA matches, should be just a bit longer for you, they're about an hour from me. CCGC in Burlington runs a two gun match also I've been to. That's the nearest ones I know of.

Looks like Boone and Wilkesboro have IDPA in the warmer months, will probably try and make one of those.
 
Beef15;n81072 said:
I'm over a month late, but anyway, I'm just South of King. PHA has defensive pistol and two gun and is the closest. I go to Rowan, Statesville, and occassionally CGGR's USPSA matches, should be just a bit longer for you, they're about an hour from me. CCGC in Burlington runs a two gun match also I've been to. That's the nearest ones I know of.

Looks like Boone and Wilkesboro have IDPA in the warmer months, will probably try and make one of those.
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Thanks Beef!
I'll give PHA a try, and maybe Statesville, too. I appreciate you taking the time to reply, hope to see you at the range.
 
What advice would you give to a B class limited revo shooter who just bought an 9mm major open gun?
I wanna go mo' fasta.

​​​​​​indexing the dot from presentation and keeping it after a reload is getting easier each week.
Dryfire sessions, 10 mins each, morning and evening.

I am still "getting comfortable" with the SAO gun.
draw, one shot in A zone is around 1.5 seconds, with about 70% consistency.

​​​​​​I think the gun handling will come along.
I need field course help. Reading and planning stages
is tricky for me. Especially long stages.

school me on what would pay me the best dividends.
 
Slacker;n98513 said:
What advice would you give to a B class limited revo shooter who just bought an 9mm major open gun?
I wanna go mo' fasta.

​​​​​​indexing the dot from presentation and keeping it after a reload is getting easier each week.
Dryfire sessions, 10 mins each, morning and evening.

I am still "getting comfortable" with the SAO gun.
draw, one shot in A zone is around 1.5 seconds, with about 70% consistency.

​​​​​​I think the gun handling will come along.
I need field course help. Reading and planning stages
is tricky for me. Especially long stages.

school me on what would pay me the best dividends.
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One thing I've been playing with in dryfire is longer dryfire drills to work on planning the stages. I setup a bunch of dryfire targets, plan/visualize the stage, then shoot it. Seems to be helping in my matches.
 
motoman247;n99895 said:
FlatFender, what is your opinion of trijicon hds for competition use, my only handgun right now is also my carry gun

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I had a VERY similar set of sights from Ameriglo on a G19 years ago, and I found the front sight to be a bit too bright and distracting in bright sunlight, and on really bright days finding the edges of the front sight for a perfect sight picture were difficult.

On my G19 that gets carried daily, and used in occasional competitions, I've got a red F/O front, and black rear that's similar to my competition sights, although a bit wider.
 
motoman247;n99940 said:
FlatFender thanks so it wouldn't be the end of the world until I get a g34?

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Nah, if you've already got them, run them, and honestly, I don't think they're terrible for carry, so I'd probably stick with them.
 
Hey Lucas, another question, hoping to shoot the H20 idpa match next week, do you recommend getting a vest as a concealment or something else? if so what are some good options? @FlatFender
 
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