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I shoot IDPA. I'm 65 (closer to 66), not in good physical condition and a bit overweight. I like to be active at the matches and help keep score and paste, so I'm on my feet the whole match. I have New Balance sneakers. My hips and knees complain during the entire match. Would I be better off with a good hiking boot? And if so, how much do I have to spend? Bass Pro just sent out a flyer with RedHead Wildcat Hikers $49.97 which is $20 off.

Keep in mind I hate for my feet to be hot, but I also hate for my feet to be cold. Is there one type boot good for warm weather with sock fixes for cold weather?


I've found shoes to be vitally important. Needs extreme traction, but often trail running shoes don't have a stiff enough sole. Often ranges use big rock gravel interspersed with fine sand and fine gravel. Some guys wear football or baseball shoes.

So I look for something stiff enough but as light as possible. For me it's critical that the toe box is very wide/roomy and the heel not too tall. I've shot in boots, but prefer the lightest and coolest thing I can find, with a lower heel.

If you go to a USPSA or 3gun match you will see a TON of the Salomon Speedcross. They tick a lot of boxes above. But if I wore them for one day, my feet would pay for months. Way too narrow and tight in the toebox. Toes need room to splay a bit, as our feet are designed to allow this and improper shoe fit can destroy you.

Also: socks. wear a very good quality sock that fits correctly. Cotton tube socks are crap. Good socks help in many ways.

I would also encourage you to look into some info on "zero-drop" shoes. They are shoes that have no heal. @bigfelipe recommended me trying some and I have been using them for everything BUT shooting, but what is happening is I can feel my feet healing and getting stronger. To the point where I can take long walks on very hard surfaces with a 1/8" hard sole thin, flat shoe and feel no soreness. Might be worth looking at.

If it's super cold or wet I wear goretex boots and just accept going slower!
 
I have had Solomons, Merrills, 5.11s and a few other brands for range shoes / boots. The only ones that have left me feeling decent at the end of 10+ stages are Salewa. I have worn out two pairs of Firetail Evo's and was going to buy a third pair, but they stopped making them. I got some of these for Christmas and they are even better. All the grip and light weigh of Solomons, all the ankle support and water proof of a boot and they aren't super hot, even with the goretex. There is a little bit of sticker shock, but I usually get about 2 years of daily wear out of them before they are completely gone.

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New to competitive shooting? Interested, but don't know where to start? This thread is your safe space to ask any question you like, no matter how trivial it may seem. If I don't know the answer, I'll find someone who does.

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Where is a good place to start for somone who has never done compititions before ide really like to do 2 or 3 gun . Im not new to shooting at all but trying to fogure everything out to get started in comps is a little confusing
 
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Where is a good place to start for somone who has never done compititions before ide really like to do 2 or 3 gun . Im not new to shooting at all but trying to fogure everything out to get started in comps is a little confusing
I see you’re in Greenville, SC. Go to a local range (City Arsenal, PSA, Sharpshooters) or shop and ask around! I used to live in Greenville and there were at least a couple carbine/2-Gun/3-Gun matches held locally... I think the Belton Gun Club and Skip-J Range held some?

Also, making an account on Practiscore is helpful... you can locate clubs in your area on the map and follow them. Based on the types of clubs you follow, Practiscore will populate the Calendar feature with suggested nearby matches in addition to the followed club matches.
 
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Where is a good place to start for somone who has never done compititions before ide really like to do 2 or 3 gun . Im not new to shooting at all but trying to fogure everything out to get started in comps is a little confusing
CGGR has a 2 gun match this weekend.
 
Forgive me if this isn’t the place, or a stupid question in general. After watching InRangeTV’s series of videos on their “Brutality” matches, I’ve decided that sort of competition is right up my alley. Pretty much Cowboy Action, but with 70s-90s retro themes to it. Is there anything actually like that in Eastern NC?
 
I just signed up yesterday. I have been shooting 3 gun in Yancey County for a few years with the Asheville Practical Shooting Association. My set up is a Sig P226 with the Romeo red dot, a Vepr 1V 7.62x39 with a red dot, and a Vepr 12 also with a red dot, shooting open class. though I recently changed the rifle red dot to a 3x prism for the longer range steel. They have cut back from 4 events a year to 2 now. I have shot some of their USPSA pistol matches with a Sig P228, but I just enjoy shooting rifles more. I just purchased a Kalashnikov USA KR-9 for use in pistol caliber carbine at the much more frequent pistol matches. My question is, can I run a red dot or do I have to use iron sights, My close up eyesight isn't what it used to be and a red dot helps a lot.
 
PCC division is pretty lax in equipment rules. Optics, lasers, irons.... what ever you want.
 
I imagine some of the strong hand weak hand transitions will be a bit different with a rifle and having brass flying closer in front of your face.
 
I always shoot low and left. I've been working on grip and trigger pull, and I'm shooting less-low and less-left, but still low and left. Should I just not fight it, in competition, and aim high and right?
If you are going to just use Kentucky windage evertime you shoot you will lose valuable time in competition. If you dont have access to t trainer I would suggest getting MantisX training device, got me one and it fixed my problems.
 
If you are going to just use Kentucky windage evertime you shoot you will lose valuable time in competition. If you dont have access to t trainer I would suggest getting MantisX training device, got me one and it fixed my problems.

I have the MantisX and have started training with it. I am also doing more dry firing to develop new neural pathways without the flinch response. And lastly, I have made a grip adjustment that should reduce my flinch response. I'll report back in a month or a few months.
 
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Good evening hope everyone is doing well, moved to the NC(Cameron) a few months ago and was wondering if there's any steel shooting or anything really nearby. I have never competed but I would like to shoot something other than paper with a laid back crowd. Thanks in advance
 
I would like to try both but maybe start off with pistol since I don't think my rifle would be set up for it. My ar has 1x6 and I'm not sure what I would need
Did you get a short barrel AR? You must be planning on shooting heavy bullets or a really short barrel. Stay 10 yards min from the steel with your pistol and 100 yards from it with a carbine unless the person that owns the steel doesn't care if you destroy it, or get close and personal with Frangible ammo.. NO GREEN TIPS or m855a1..
 
I imagine some of the strong hand weak hand transitions will be a bit different with a rifle and having brass flying closer in front of your face.
My most recent training drills are strong side, weak side transfer for carbine to pistol, i think a 22lr is a great tool to practice this with cause you can shoot 10 yards with both.. Yea the brass is flying close when I do the transition, glad my nose is not long. LOL ...Ps I practice at my indoors range with Airsoft Ar, and Glock 17 AirSoft pistol great training for acquiring fast sight picture and drawing from the holster even with Red Dots. ..
 
Good evening hope everyone is doing well, moved to the NC(Cameron) a few months ago and was wondering if there's any steel shooting or anything really nearby. I have never competed but I would like to shoot something other than paper with a laid back crowd. Thanks in advance
Perhaps not right in your area. Zoo City Armory runs a falling steel match at Carolina Guns and Gear range in Asheboro it is incredibly fun. They also do Steel Challenge less fun more stationary. There's another falling steel in SC somewhere. @jjwestbrook might know. Those are pistol/PCC, can't help for carbine steel.
 
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Did you get a short barrel AR? You must be planning on shooting heavy bullets or a really short barrel. Stay 10 yards min from the steel with your pistol and 100 yards from it with a carbine unless the person that owns the steel doesn't care if you destroy it, or get close and personal with Frangible ammo.. NO GREEN TIPS

Did you get a short barrel AR? You must be planning on shooting heavy bullets or a really short barrel. Stay 10 yards min from the steel with your pistol and 100 yards from it with a carbine unless the person that owns the steel doesn't care if you destroy it, or get close and personal with Frangible ammo.. NO GREEN TIPS or m855a1..
No I have a 16 inch barrel with a 1/8 twist, 55g fmj and a few 75g hornady black
 
I wanted to get into 3 gun, I built a Frankenstein AR, picked up a JM 930 pro and already had a glock 17, but unfortunately I had an accident and that at least for the moment put a stop to the running and gunning
 
Interesting, I had a hip replacement and am 4 months into it and started about a mounth ago training again on my gun range so I can shoot 3 gun, I have all the 3 gun targets and shotgun runs setup at my range, cant wait to run my jungle shotgun range, been working hard with the pistol and Ar, got that 930 had to drop couple hundred in Or3gun to make it reliable, now they include it in the new model, good luck on your recovery.
 
Perhaps not right in your area. Zoo City Armory runs a falling steel match at Carolina Guns and Gear range in Asheboro it is incredibly fun. They also do Steel Challenge less fun more stationary. There's another falling steel in SC somewhere. @jjwestbrook might know. Those are pistol/PCC, can't help for carbine steel.
falling steel at pappys in edgemoor sc 3rd sat every other month march and may then they skip the summer due to the heat and resume in fall they do steel challenge first sat of every month
 
Interesting, I had a hip replacement and am 4 months into it and started about a mounth ago training again on my gun range so I can shoot 3 gun, I have all the 3 gun targets and shotgun runs setup at my range, cant wait to run my jungle shotgun range, been working hard with the pistol and Ar, got that 930 had to drop couple hundred in Or3gun to make it reliable, now they include it in the new model, good luck on your recovery.

I'd be your very best friend if I lived closer. Bring you your favorite beers and whatnot. Pet you dog and lie about how smart he is, etc.
 
Have never shot in competitions with pistol but want to start. I see members talking about events they enjoy going to every year. Recommendations for pistol choice to get started. I love competition but really just looking to have a good time. Thanks
 
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Have never shot in competitions with pistol but want to start. I see members talking about events they enjoy going to every year. Recommendations for pistol choice to get started. I love competition but really just looking to have a good time. Thanks
What do you have? There is a division in one competition or another for most guns.
 
S&W shield 9mm
CZ P09 40
Figured I may be able to use one of those two. Have several others but don’t think they would work
 
Other games deserve some love too. N-SSA, North South Skirmish Association. Live fire competition with Civil War guns including artillery. All targets are frangible, meaning breakable. Shot as teams. No breaky, no county. Clocks running. Fastest time wins.

SASS- Single Action Shooting Sports. 3Gun with Old West arms.

IHMSA- International Handgun Metallic Silhouette Association. Steel cutouts of chickens, pigs, turkeys and rams. 40 timed shots. No hit, no count.

There are alternatives to pew pew and paper punching that aren't more expensive than divorce or a bad crack habit.
 
S&W shield 9mm
CZ P09 40
Figured I may be able to use one of those two. Have several others but don’t think they would work
Find you a local USPSA match. Look to get in the Limited division, major scoring, with the CZ PO9. You will thank me later and then your misses with cuss me later. 😎
 
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Sounds good. Also have 22 mag revolver, 5.7x28, and 44 mag revolver. I will check on local USPSA thanks.
 
P0-9 in USPSA Limited, stages are generally limited to 32 rounds, you'll want to be able to carry/have 40 or more on you at the buzzer. Mags are limited to 140mm. Any safe holster except drop leg rigs.

Or the Shield in whatever IDPA division it fits, much lower ammo requirements.
 
Just curious because I haven't seen much on here. Bullseye and Silhouette competition. Any in NC, especially Eastern NC? I shot some casual .22 bullseye and also interested in Silhouette. I may not be physically able to compete, but as I said. Just curious. Thanks.
 
Have never shot in competitions with pistol but want to start. I see members talking about events they enjoy going to every year. Recommendations for pistol choice to get started. I love competition but really just looking to have a good time. Thanks

I'd recommend checking out True North range in Oxford. They are friendly, not too far from you, and have a couple matches that are geared towards new shooters and fun.
USPSA is great, but it can be a bit intimidating for your first match, imo, as it has all the top shooters in it with difficult and very challenging stages, and it may be a bit much.
Check out these two matches:



You will need a decent OWB holster, preferably kydex (NOT a Serpa or similar), a couple kydex mag holders for belt, and 3-4 magazines to get started. I would use the P-09.
 
I've shot IPDA for a while. Dabbled in USPSA, Steel Challenge, and 3 gun. Only get to the occasional 3 gun match, but it's one of my favorites to shoot. My problem, is that I often time out before I am able to finish the course of fire. There are multiple reasons for this, I think (usually related to rifle and shotgun work).

1). Not enough practice.
2). Using iron sights for rifle, not a red dot.
3). Loading shotgun one at a time from a cheap shell belt.
4) Others?

In the past my logic was: Practice more and just don't time out and keep getting better. However, given the ammo crunch, I'm practicing even less and my eyes aren't getting any better. I'm thinking I need to buy a red dot for the rifle and shotgun shell belt mounts. The shell holders, would allow me to practice at least dual loading the shotgun. I hate to spend the money, but I hate not being able to complete the stages even more I think....

Thoughts?

GregB

P.S. Also, if any of you on here have ever shot 3 gun with me (or any other matches) I'd welcome feedback on what I can do better. Thanks.
 
I've shot IPDA for a while. Dabbled in USPSA, Steel Challenge, and 3 gun. Only get to the occasional 3 gun match, but it's one of my favorites to shoot. My problem, is that I often time out before I am able to finish the course of fire. There are multiple reasons for this, I think (usually related to rifle and shotgun work).

1). Not enough practice.
2). Using iron sights for rifle, not a red dot.
3). Loading shotgun one at a time from a cheap shell belt.
4) Others?

In the past my logic was: Practice more and just don't time out and keep getting better. However, given the ammo crunch, I'm practicing even less and my eyes aren't getting any better. I'm thinking I need to buy a red dot for the rifle and shotgun shell belt mounts. The shell holders, would allow me to practice at least dual loading the shotgun. I hate to spend the money, but I hate not being able to complete the stages even more I think....

Thoughts?

GregB

P.S. Also, if any of you on here have ever shot 3 gun with me (or any other matches) I'd welcome feedback on what I can do better. Thanks.

Just my opinions, I am not an expert:

1. Dry fire practice is the single most important thing to become a better competition shooter. Dryfire is not sitting on couch casually finger banging the trigger.
DF takes no ammo and costs nothing.

2. An optic will help. I would recommend a LPVO (low power variable optic). Maybe try a StrikeEagle, or the little Crossifire 2 Vbrite if you want to start cheap. Or a red dot. But I think variable optics are nice to have.

3. You must at least load duals for shotgun. This can be practiced in dryfire with dummy rounds, and no live rounds anywhere. Once you get the duals down (one or two evenings will have you doing it reliably) you can then move to quads. There are a lot of youtube vids that can help with techniques. Edit: buy carriers that allow dual or quad loading.


Can't stress dryfire enough. It is everything. Practice mounting your rifle while coming into a position (mounting means smoothly bringing rifle to shoulder and getting a solid cheek weld) and dismounting the rifle leaving a shooting position. Practice smooth reloads from your carrier. Practice moving with rifle mounted and engaging targets (here an optic helps as it's easy to observe your dot or reticle bounce, which you want to keep to a minimum. Etc etc etc.
This will very quickly have you not timing out. All these little details stack up when you are on the clock and add up huge. This can all be accomplished for free and you might even find it very fun, and it will give you confidence when on the range.
 
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Idpa will be the cheapest enterance to shooting comps, $20.00 match fee plus 100 rds ammo
uspsa will be a bit more expensive, $20.00 match fee plus 200 rds ammo and few more magazines required pending class
3 gun will kill a bank account quick, 3 calibers of ammo various amounts, 3 guns, $20.00 and up entry fee, alot more gear is needed. Mag pouches for pistol, rifle and shell holders for shotgun. And other stuff I am forgetting
I just thought 3 gun was expensive, try your hand at Cowboy 3 gun.. At least you don't have to have 1000$ in clothes to shoot 3 gun.
 
I have a P320 XFive Legion that I want to shoot at the Level 3 IDPA match March 27 at Ant Hill. The gun specs out at 43.5 ounces per the Sig website, weight limit for IDPA is 43 ounces. I weighed it with an empty mag on a scale used for bass tournament weigh-ins, and it came in just under 43 ounces as from the factory. I have removed the magwell, and could remove the grip weight. Question is do I take a chance on shooting it at the match and risk DQ? I could somehow get it weighed or get my scale calibrated, but does that mean the scale at the match will also be calibrated?

Simple answer is to shoot my standard P320 and not the Legion, but it would be nice to have the heavier gun.

Anybody know where to get a pistol and mag weighed accurately, or does anybody near Fuquay have a certified weight for calibration in the 2-3 lb category?
 
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