CONCEALED CARRY PERMITS FROM VIRGINA

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I’m sure you all have seen those ads for getting past the concealed carry laws by taking an online test of a few questions and for $35.00 they will send you a Virginia non-resident concealed carry permit, ok well my question is, I know that North Carolina recognizes the Va permit, but can you also use it buy a handgun like the NC concealed carry permit allows you to with out having to get a purchase permit from the Sheriff.? Also aren’t you supposed to get a NC concealed carry if you are a resident, I mean. Won’t they question why you have a Va permit instead of a NC Permit? Aren’t you required to get one as a resident or is the Va one valid no matter if you are a long time resident or not?
I’m just curious because its so easy to get the Va permit and costs a lot less, and they claim its totally legal on honored completely in NC plus a bunch of other states.
Does anyone know for sure or has anyone gone this route? Opinions , comments, thoughts, suggestions


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If the question is whether you can use a non-NC permit to purchase here in the state, I believe the answer is no.
 
First question ... a Virginia Non-Resident CHP does not substitute for a Pistol Purchase Permit nor can an FFL use it for the NICS portion of the 4473 like most FFLs do. Actually no CHP issued outside of NC can substitute for a PPP.

As to validity in NC a non-resident CHP from Virginia (or other states that issue them) is honored but there was rumbling a year or so back about changing the reciprocity list to cut out some non-resident CHPs that required very little legal instruction and no proof of safe handling. Some states like South Carolina and Florida do not recognize certain non-resident CHPs for various reasons but basically it boils down to the level of training a person gets to qualify ... not that NC’s course is that hard.

NC’s CHP is one of the most honored in reciprocity by other states and the fact it acts as a PPP and most times the NICS it is not a bad investment ... $5 for a PPP pays for itself if you buy just 3 handguns a year along with not having to make trips to apply for PPPs and another to pick them up when some sheriff’s office gets around to issuing them (there have been quite a few cases for PPPs taking 30 as some longer).
 
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I’m sure you all have seen those ads for getting past the concealed carry laws by taking an online test of a few questions and for $35.00 they will send you a Virginia non-resident concealed carry permit, ok well my question is, I know that North Carolina recognizes the Va permit, but can you also use it buy a handgun like the NC concealed carry permit allows you to with out having to get a purchase permit from the Sheriff.? Also aren’t you supposed to get a NC concealed carry if you are a resident, I mean. Won’t they question why you have a Va permit instead of a NC Permit? Aren’t you required to get one as a resident or is the Va one valid no matter if you are a long time resident or not?
I’m just curious because its so easy to get the Va permit and costs a lot less, and they claim its totally legal on honored completely in NC plus a bunch of other states.
Does anyone know for sure or has anyone gone this route? Opinions , comments, thoughts, suggestions


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Looked into this a while back when VA stopped recognizing NC lic because I was traveling to VA a lot. Then they realized how bad they screwed up and put reciprocity back in place.

http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_NonresidentConcealed.shtm

NC recognizes every other states lic so it is good.

You learn nothing about NC state law and it is not cheap. You pay for this course (don't remember the cost), then the application to the VA state police is, if I remember, is another $100.

Also, you have to have Documentation of Competence with a Handgun

http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_NonresidentConcealed.shtm#Documentation_of_Competence (do you have any of these?)

You have to get fingerprints. I think the SO charges $10.

I decided it wasn't worth my trouble/expense.
 
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Looked into this a while back when VA stopped recognizing NC lic because I was traveling to VA a lot. Then they realized how bad they screwed up and put reciprocity back in place.

http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_NonresidentConcealed.shtm

NC recognizes every other states lic so it is good.

You learn nothing about NC state law and it is not cheap. You pay for this course (don't remember the cost), then the application to the VA state police is, if I remember, is another $100.

Also, you have to have Documentation of Competence with a Handgun

http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_NonresidentConcealed.shtm#Documentation_of_Competence (do you have any of these?)

You have to get fingerprints. I think the SO charges $10.

I decided it wasn't worth my trouble/expense.
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Yes, it does sound like its not worth it in the long run, thank you for your input.


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F#@&^ VA....and Md, Jersey and all of the commie states that have drunk the Liberal unfriendly koolaid! I was bred, born and raised in the back country there and its rapidly turning Commie due to DC and carpet baggers from yankeeland. I live in the north due to work and luv so excuse my rant but my ass still raw after seeing 3 "representatives" from my current state proposing HR 3999 after Vegas.
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Mike V said:
Looked into this a while back when VA stopped recognizing NC lic because I was traveling to VA a lot. Then they realized how bad they screwed up and put reciprocity back in place.

http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_NonresidentConcealed.shtm

NC recognizes every other states lic so it is good.

You learn nothing about NC state law and it is not cheap. You pay for this course (don't remember the cost), then the application to the VA state police is, if I remember, is another $100.

Also, you have to have Documentation of Competence with a Handgun

http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_NonresidentConcealed.shtm#Documentation_of_Competence (do you have any of these?)

You have to get fingerprints. I think the SO charges $10.

I decided it wasn't worth my trouble/expense.
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I've have my non res va chp for a while now. Everything you said was correct except the bold part here. " Also, you have to have Documentation of Competence with a Handgun"

Take the test, print out your certificate and take it to the sheriffs office, get fingerprinted, pay your fee's $90+$10 and that's it.

The test is a 30min youtube like video and a few question test that is all common knowledge, then you get some pictures taken similar to a passport photo and send those in with your payment, they send you back a laminated CHP with a cool picture of yourself on it.
 
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Yes, it does sound like its not worth it in the long run, thank you for your input.


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Not to convince you that you should do it. but having both my non res va permit and NC chp, the non res va permit was so easy to do it shouldn't be legal. For your NC chp you have to do everything the non res permit requires plus a 8hr class room (been a while so not sure what classroom requires right now) and a shooting test.

Va non res permit has your picture on it which I find neat, be cool to see the NC chp move to do that.

VA non res was around $200 with everything, you pay for the test, fingerprints, passport style photo, sheriff fees, the laminated CHP with your picture and shipping.

With the VA non res you still need PPP to purchase handguns which didn't bother me for a while when I had a stack of them, but the NC CHP makes handgun transfers much easier if you plan on buying more then 5 (limit of PPPs at a time) handguns at a time haha.
 
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I forgot to compare the costs.

VA non res was around $200 with everything, you pay for the test, fingerprints, passport style photo, sheriff fees, the laminated CHP with your picture and shipping.

NC CHP was around $180 with everything, the class/shooting test, fingeprints, sheriff fees
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Having to ask permission and pay for something that is a God given and Constitutionally protected right shouldn't be legal
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Very true, maybe the wrong line for what I was trying to get across, but I think people get what I meant.
 
My stepson was living in VA and had a concealed permit for VA. He has just recently moved back to NC. Is it possible to get his permit transfered to a NC permit?
 
I see your point, but there is still a problem with some LEO’s, they may or can give you a hard time if you have a non-resident concealed carry from Va. but have a permanent residence in NC and have lived in NC for many years, whats to stop him from not honoring it and saying you need to get a NC CC permit as you have a permanent residence in NC, you know there are some LEO’s who are simply jerks and like to break your balls because he doesn’t like the way you look or the way you wear your hair or some stupid thing like that, it wouldn’t be the first time, even though most LEO’s are decent guys, there are still some assholes on the job.


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TNTmx9 said:
My stepson was living in VA and had a concealed permit for VA. He has just recently moved back to NC. Is it possible to get his permit transfered to a NC permit?
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He was a permanent resident in VA when he got his carry permit and is now moving back to NC as a permanent resident. He still has to change his drivers license and car tag back to NC, I just wondered if they would change over his carry permit too.
 
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He was a permanent resident in VA when he got his carry permit and is now moving back to NC as a permanent resident. He still has to change his drivers license and car tag back to NC, I just wondered if they would change over his carry permit too.
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You can't transfer an out of state Permit or whatever it's called from the state you are moving from to a NC CHP. He has to take the class, past the test, and go through the background, medical, etc.
 
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