Democrat congressional candidate sprays self with mace, because... guns

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I think I'm beginning to get a better understanding of how life was in the waning years of the Roman Empire.........

Congressional candidate Levi Tillemann (D-CO) released a campaign ad in which he has his own eyes doused in pepper spray to demonstrate why teachers should not be armed with guns.

 
What an idiot. As expected. Let's start a government program to give everybody free mace. How long would it take the bad guys to start wearing safety goggles or a facemask. Or better yet let's do a standoff at 20'. Levi with his mace and a shooter with a 9mm handgun. Come on Levi, step up.
 
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Next step from the leftists is to charge the sprinkler system with mace that gets triggered by the first sound of a gun shot.
 
CZfool68 said:
What an idiot. As expected. Let's start a government program to give everybody free mace. How long would it take the bad guys to start wearing safety goggles or a facemask. Or better yet let's do a standoff at 20'. Levi with his mace and a shooter with a 9mm handgun. Come on Levi, step up.
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I've been through an O.C. contamination/certification course hosted by the US Marine Corps.
Yes, it sucks, and while I'm not anxious to repeat the experience, I'll stand off with him at 3 feet. He gets O.C. and I get a stick.
When he gets out of the hospital, he will understand it's not the stopping force he thinks it is against a determined foe.
 
draco88 said:
I've been through an O.C. contamination/certification course hosted by the US Marine Corps.
Yes, it sucks, and while I'm not anxious to repeat the experience, I'll stand off with him at 3 feet. He gets O.C. and I get a stick.
When he gets out of the hospital, he will understand it's not the stopping force he thinks it is against a determined foe.
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Never met you, but bet you’d do okay without the stick and starting at 20’. He’d be running and spraying randomly as soon as he noticed that he missed you at first.
 
I didn't bother to watch the vid at first, but I finally did. Looking past the usual hoplophobia, he said something about O.C. not accidentally killing a kid.
I've got news for you, bud: not only can that happen, but if deployed nationwide, it WILL happen.

Just off the top, WebMD says 5% of kids have a food allergy. Couldnt find specifics about allergic to peppers, but there's gonna be a few in that 5%.
WebMD also says 8.4% of kids have asthma. This is a more substantial danger. The chances of death from OC increase dramatically if asthma is a factor.
Let an asthmatic kid get hit accidentally and all hell breaks loose.
The OC delivery type used is of concern, too. Foams (like in the video) or streams are far less likely to irritate a bystander.
But actual sprays or fogs can clear out a gymnasium. These types would render at risk kids even more vulnerable, depending on severity of allergy/asthma, because they could be up to 20 or 30 feet away and still be contaminated.
This proposal wont go anywhere because NOONE is willing to accept ANY risk where a kid is concerned.


All that said...OC is better than the bucket of rocks in the back of class the dude (?) from Pa (?) proposed. Id support OC in the classroom. On the teachers person. Not in some 'break to open' thing.
 
Wow! Brilliant plan....
Oh, except for all the times when OC or Peter spray doesn’t work.
Oh, and all the people who HAVE died from either allergic reactions or positional asphyxiation.
But yeah, sure, other than that....
 
It won't matter if the government says OC spray is the way to go. Let's face it...the ONLY reason law makers like him are pushing this is for gun control.

THEN, after they've pushed all kinds of gun control laws to disarm the public, they'll pull a UK move and start restricting/regulating pepper sprays, too. 'Cause rape alarms will be the only defensive tool allowed.

Until, of course, THAT gets regulated/restricted as an offensive weapon because it can cause hearing damage...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5568336/pepper-spray-mace-legal-carry-uk-laws-self-defence/

https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q589.htm
 
Can we start that challenge? The anti-gun pepper spray challenge? I bet there are a bunch of stupid people that would do it. It’s like the ice bucket challenge but better.
 
This was predictable, and yes I would expect to see the Tazer done next.

The only people that the left will listen to are victims. Once you are a victim, you are qualified to have an opinion. The more victimhood boxes you can check, the more your opinion is valued.

The guy can't arrange for himself to be a mass shooting survivor, so he "survives" an assault with pepper spray. He is unfortunately a white male, so he makes sure to include a black male and an Asian female (bonus points for immigrant and mother) as "endorsers" for his message.

He picks a nonsensical solution for equipping a classroom in order to contrast it against the "real solution" of gun control.

This video was brilliantly done for who it is intended to appeal to. This is not some yahoo who slapped it together, this had some focus group persuasion behind it. If I'm the R in that district, I need a high quality response.

All that said, I think teachers should have access to any tool they are willing to use. Firearms, pepper spray, pepper guns (https://www.amazon.com/Salt-Supply-Pepper-Spray-Defense/dp/B01NCAI8GP?th=1) and dazzling lights should all be in the discussion.
 
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I think the local SWAT team needs to have him demonstrate how well pepper spray will work on a determined shooter. Unfortunately the SWAT team will have to use simunitions.
 
Ferrisfan said:
The only people that the left will listen to are victims who support their cause. Once you are a victim who supports their cause, you are qualified to have an opinion. The more victimhood boxes you can check, the more your opinion is valued.
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FTFY.

There are plenty of "victims" who do NOT support gun control measures. They are relentlessly ignored, suppressed, or otherwise discredited/disregarded by the left.
 
RetiredUSNChief said:
FTFY.

There are plenty of "victims" who do NOT support gun control measures. They are relentlessly ignored, suppressed, or otherwise discredited/disregarded by the left.
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True, but you can also support the cause and be ignored if you do not have the victimhood boxes checked.
 
Ferrisfan said:
True, but you can also support the cause and be ignored if you do not have the victimhood boxes checked.
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Yeppers, no doubt.

But my point was in keeping with a posting I made elsewhere about the left and gun control. Namely that they use a means to support opposing ideology all the time.

For example, the issue of suicide is being harped as a factor to promote gun control on the one hand...yet they fight for STATE sanctioned suicide on the other. Suicide is BAD when it comes to guns and gun ownership by private individuals...but GOOD when it comes to state sanctioned and regulated suicide.

Killing kids and babies is BAD when it comes to guns and gun ownership by private individuals...but GOOD when it comes to abortion.

So it's not just good enough to be a victim...there are plenty of victims out there. But the victim must ALSO support the left's agenda. If they don't...then those victims don't count as far as the left is concerned.
 
JimB said:
Never met you, but bet you’d do okay without the stick and starting at 20’. He’d be running and spraying randomly as soon as he noticed that he missed you at first.
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But, see, that's exactly the point.
He'll miss at 20 feet and use missing as an excuse why I didn't stop.
I want him to get me with a full dose, square in the face, so he has no excuse. I want him to face a truth he does not want to face.
 
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