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The outdoor range I frequent has a 100 yard rifle range that also has a few 50 and 25 yard lanes. More often than not, someone will show up with an AR and setup at one of the 25 yard lanes, and commence to blast away hundreds of rounds. Sometimes they mention they are sighting in an optic of some sort. Then they pack up and leave all of their brass on the ground.

God I love those guys! ;)
 
I haven't been that lucky..
I do need some 223 so I can resize to 221 fireball and load up another 100.

Congrats on the new brass!
 
I gave up loading for the AR, big hands and a little bit of the nerves. lol. Brass is a PIA to resize and work with. Besides is about as cheap at the store than buying all the components. Load for the AK is less tedious, more enjoyable.
 
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I usually will ask them if they save their brass. If not, I offer to pick it up for them, and sometimes they will just sweep it up and hand it to me. But most of the time that I check, there are lots of 223 brass on the ground at the 25 yard lanes. Not nearly as much on the 100 or 50 yard lanes.
 
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Im always happy to volunteer to help keep the range clean too. I finally got my super-duper RCBS case prep tool commissioned and it makes prep way less tedious
 
I always come home from the range with more brass than when I got to the range. Reloading keeps me out of trouble.

I will never put any wolf through any of my guns.
 
Toprudder said:
The outdoor range I frequent has a 100 yard rifle range that also has a few 50 and 25 yard lanes. More often than not, someone will show up with an AR and setup at one of the 25 yard lanes, and commence to blast away hundreds of rounds. Sometimes they mention they are sighting in an optic of some sort. Then they pack up and leave all of their brass on the ground.

God I love those guys! ;)
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Happens all the time where I shoot. I do not get it. Even if they are "sighting in". Does it really take several hundred rounds?
 
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DanRHP9mm said:
Just because you do not clean your rifle, do not blame a failure on the rifle.
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Thats a great assumption from someone that wasnt there.

You're right, steel case will jam the cleanest rifle, and as long as brass ammo is in the AR and it's clean, there is 100% chance of no failures.
 
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Crazy Carl said:
One of my ARs is a 6.8SPC & the other a .300BLK, so you know I'm pickin' my brass up.
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I pick up a 6.8spc case once in a while, 300blk, too. I have a friend that shoots 300blk, so I give those to him, but don't know anyone nearby that loads 6.8.

Crazy Carl said:
I only run commie ammo in my commie gun (SKS).
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I have reloaded 7.62x39, but mainly because I have an old Mini-30 with a .308 barrel. It has occasional light strikes with the steel cased stuff. But, for my AR in 7.62, I have not had any problems, and the cost of component, even excluding brass, is more than the cheap steel case. Doesn't make much sense to reload it.

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Happens all the time where I shoot. I do not get it. Even if they are "sighting in". Does it really take sever hundred rounds?
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My point exactly. I noticed once that a couple of guys were having problems (could not hit paper at 25 yards) so I decided to help them. They had probably wasted 50 rounds by that point. A quick bore-sight got them going.

Maybe some of these guys are practicing CQB or something, but I just don't get why they will blast 2-300 rounds at 25 yards. I'd rather see if I can hit 100 yards, even with iron sights or red-dot.

DanRHP9mm said:
After watching two ARs jam using wolf I just decided that I need ammo I could trust.
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Have never shot steel in my 5.56 ARs, but that is about the only thing I have shot in my 7.62x39 AR. The commie round, IMHO, is just inherently more reliable by design (more taper).
 
Windini said:
I saw this years ago, and use brass now.

https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/brass-vs-steel-cased-ammo/
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The conclusion of that article even says that using steel would buy you many many replacement barrels.

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many people believe that it was actually the powder causing the increased barrel wear and not the projectile.

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?186725-Steel-Bullets-or-something-else
 
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I wonder out of the THOUSANDS they fired between cleanings, if they cleaned a rifle after a few hundred rounds were fire like 99% of you and myself included do, how many steel case jams would have been present?

Im not bashing brass, but to refuse to shoot steel case because it "wears a barrel faster" or "I saw 2 rifles jam" is dumb. For a precision gun, I dont run brass... but for my AR15... steel all day.

If you even will shoot 10,000 rounds out of the rifle, lets do quick math.

10,000 rounds of wolf, will cost you $2000.
12,000 rounds of American eagle brass will cost you $3000
A 16" .223 WYLDE barrel will cost you $63.99

So you could spend $2464, get a barrel and 12,000 rounds of wolf and will most likely not burn up your 1st barrel, because you wont, 1) shoot that ammo in 1 day, 2) you'll clean between shootings, or atleast you should.

Dont shoot steel if you dont want to, thats perfectly fine.. but to blackball it over something you saw on the internet... is pretty dumb IMO.
 
Esp when there are thousands if not millions of milsurp rifles (including US made) that have shot nothing but steel cased ammo and people don't seem to be shying away from them much.
And a barrel on an AR should be considered a maintenance replaceable item (and is easily replaceable to boot) should one love the rest of the rifle.

Most of us shoot one a few hundred times a year (if that) clean it after every other mag, use only the best lubes we can find, and trade or sell it after a few years.
 
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