Disarmed then killed with own gun.

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  1. Mike Overlay

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  2. Cowboy

    Cowboy Glances can deceive

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    o_O I guess it still self defense when you throw in the extra 5 rounds. Lol it's good to be aware.
     
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    That was crazy!!! I couldn't help but think, during the leg sweep... Mortal Combat. FINISH HIM!!! I still can't figure out how he got his weapon. The guy was drawing with his right hand.
     
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    Wow!
    I like to think that I pay attention and usually try to have a plan...
     
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    While I don't disagree with how it went down. A far leftists DA or Prosecutor would put the good guy in prison for the rest of his life for those last 3-4 shots.

    I think he was just protecting everybody with all that he done. Hard and swift justice is needed in this country to get control back from the criminals.
     
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    I'd say do dead lifts...without the straps. Get that grip strong for starters. The guy who lost his weapon must have had vasaline on his hands.
     
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    Shouldn't we see blood with that many head & neck shots?
     
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    Agreed I’m calling bullshit
     
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    Probably obscured by the counter.
     
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    Ikarus1 Avtomat Krishna-kov

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    shoot to stop the threat. Emptying the mag is very effective at doing just that
     
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    He was still a threat! Didn't you see how mean and badass he was as he was falling to the floor? o_O
     
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    I only got one question. How many degrees of dead are there?
     
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    Always be willing to fully commit!!
     
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    That would be south of the border dead.
     
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    The blue shirt guy seemed methodical and cool through the end. Maybe not his first rodeo.


     
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    Every shot was unnecessary... once the guy was disarmed and down, he was no longer a threat.
     
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    Surprised he went with the Stockton Slap right out of the gate.
     
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    The guy in red never intended to use the gun which was his first and last mistake. He just wanted to show off and talk macho shit to the guy. I grew up there, this shit was how it was but I never saw a gun in the mix because it was still a military dictatorship and you wouldn't risk that torture shit.
     
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    I dont know, safe to assume there is gun #2 somewhere till proven otherwise
     
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    Damn. Just watched a situation, I can't see the "actual" storyline of.....

    The dude in red tshirt, right or wrong since I don't know the story....

    Pulls a pistol... seemingly with intent to "intimidate".. as in he pulls it, but doesn't "create space, draw, eliminate the threat"

    Just pulls it, pointed down and back....

    Dude he is talking to/ confronting/ whatever. Instantly starts swinging to defend himself. Has the skills to "sweep the leg" (karate kid style I guess).

    Takes the weapon that was intended to harm him from the aggressor. Then uses said mechanism to end a confrontation that could have ended his life....

    Damn.

    He cleared the magazine. I get that.

    If he had gone full MMA after it was empty or even used said metal to bludgeon the guy. I get that too.

    In that minute or less. A gun was pulled, a fight for life was begun, the one who threatened deadly force, had it inflicted upon themselves..



    Fight to win. Fight to live. If those who intend to harm/end you still move, the fight has not ended:/
     
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    Yep. First shot the guy in red still had the gun in his grasp.
     
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    I like the dude who shoves the woman out of the way to hide under the counter.... then comes out when shooting stops like he didn’t just piss himself! :rolleyes: :D
     
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    Looks like the male wearing white t-shirt slipped on something "slippery" as he walked past the corpse.
     
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    Awesome.
    Well done.

    No sympathy.
     
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    From comments:


    The Guy that was killed, was a police officer, and It happened in São Paulo


    Johnny
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    @Rob Pincus
    https://www.google.com.br/amp/s/www.piranot.com.br/2018/12/02/noticias/mundo-noticias/brasil-noticias/estado-brasil-noticias/sao-paulo-brasil-noticias/localidade/piracicaba-e-regiao/piracicaba/agente-da-semutran-e-morto-durante-briga-em-lanchonete/amp/ i Just have the info in portuguese, i Hope that could be usefull
     
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    Pretty crazy place... people die like that every day in Brazil. Dunno why the Chinese want to be there.
    Cop should have known better than to pull without shooting.
     
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    For the life of me I can't find it there... have a direct link?
     
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    I'm going to say he could get away with this in Brazil but here he would have a problem. Once he disarmed the guy the threat was over and he would be hard pressed to justify shooting someone unarmed much less on the ground that many times.
     
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    I think they get away with a lot of intimidation. Likely the cop thought his cop-ness would protect him in this case. He was wrong
     
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    I had to look up Stockton Slap. I once had a training session with a UK based instructor who worked with British law enforcement, among others in Europe. He taught a power slap method that, if applied correctly would put an opponent out for a period of time. It had to do with central nervous system overload. The Brits used it because it looked innoccuous and avoided claims of excessive force. But, it was very effective. And it was not a Stockton Slap..
     
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    Not sure there were any “good guys” in that bunch.
     
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    Your probably right. By some of the later post ,it may have been an LEO that was killed. Not good.
     
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    That stuff is nothing to play with. I had a judo instructor once that went to a karate tournament where a Grand Master of some sort was giving a demonstration and was knocking people out by a light tap on the side of the neck. He volunteered to be knocked out. Dude walked down a line of volunteers and all went down with just a tap. They had guys on each side of them to catch and lower them to the floor. When he came to the Grand Master came back around and in very broken English told him to go to the bathroom cause he was gonna poop soon. Sure enuff he was right.
     
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    This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. Would bet he has done it before and got away with it. Some folks don't Play...
     
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    Think I saw something similar with a faith healer. Just kidding. :D

    When I was young, I spent a summer studying with a real deal Sholin Priest. We delved into energy and focus points a bit, so I understand that concept. But, the technique I'm referring to is more forced sensory overload. Thinking about it, maybe it still applies.
     
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    All of the knockout touch stuff is, without exception, 100% fake.
     
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    Not according to my judo instructor. His was first hand experience. What proof do you offer of what you said?