Disposal of bad ammo?

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Over the years I have accumulated a coffee can full of bad rounds. This goes from stuff I reloaded that had a partially crushed case rim (didn't put the bullet on straight and tore the case) to rounds-of-unknown-origin that I picked up at the range (and everything in-between and over the edge).

Does anyone have a good way to get rid of this mess? I do not want to spend the hours it'd take to pull them all if there is a place where I can safely and legally dump them, that'd be the ticket!

Any suggestions?

Thanks!
 
Try to find someone with a bullet puller. The components are much more useful apart than together if the case is messed up. For instance I like to throw little paper towels full of powder in my fireplace insert to clean off the creosote fast :D
And the bullets can be either reused or melted down (jacketed bullets may have to be hit with a hammer to get the lead out)
 
hours? how big is that coffee can?
Someone here will take them.
 
It's a 1 lb can, almost full. Mostly 9mm, but a little of everything.

If someone wants it, I'd be happy to give it! (Chapel Hill in Chatham)

To me it is not worth it to salvage the components, I won't reuse the bullets, and the cases are definitely not worth the effort to me.
 
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Made me remember a bad story regarding burning ammo...

In 1972 we were firing at live fire range in Vieques PR. Shooting a bunch of 60/81 mm mortars, 106 recoiless rifle and 3.5" rocket launchers.

Anyway, racial issues were pretty bad back then. Although the military was not segregated, we pretty much self-segregated. In the evening we would have separate burn piles for the boxes crates and wax type tubes the mortar rounds and rockets came in.

The black guys had a fire, and a few hundred yards away the white guys had a fire. Looking back I can't imagine why we did not crush the tubes once they were empty. Anyway, the norm was that we passed around a bunch of joints and everyone was drinking cheap beer.

After a good long while we were alarmed by an explosion at the black guys end of the camp and it turns out someone had put a whole willy pete (white phosphorous) round in the fire. If you've ever seen one you know it was an ugly sight. I do not believe anyone died, but quite a few were maimed.

Sorry, the topic just brought up an ugly memory!
 
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Id burn em, not gonna explode and send bullets flying all over the neighborhood.
 
Nothing like a surprise blank in the fire barrel
 
Don't most fire departments have collection points for stuff like this?
 
Orange co solid waste doesnt accept ammo. You could just bury them. The lead in the ground is a non issue in its current state.
 
Orange co solid waste doesnt accept ammo. You could just bury them. The lead in the ground is a non issue in its current state.

I checked Chatham, since that is my county... The website sad to contact law enforcement...
 
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Ask your local gun range. They all have bad ammo cans and pails. I dumped a bunch, after asking first, at the gun club I belong to.
 
You can always throw em in a burn barrel. It will go 'POP' and the lead will melt into the bottom. Ask me how I know.
Don't stand close by...primer in your hand....ask me how I know. Really, just bring them here.
 
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Segregate it by category. Misfired 22's. Crushed primers or "struck primers". Bad seating or case imperfection....PRIMER INTACT and NOT crushed.

PRIMER INTACT and Bad seating or whatever.....Pull the bullets with a kinetic puller. That will also show you how much you probably OVERCRIMP and need to readjust and set up your dies properly for crimping.

ALL THE REST....consolidate into the smallest container possible. Should be a screw on lid or snap on. Pour in motor oil (used will do). Once the container is filled.....then....

Purchase a 40 or 80 pound bag of Sakrete (or equivalent). Get a five gallon bucket. Use a string and stick to suspend the sealed container in the middle (X and Y axis) of the empty 5 gallon bucket.

Mix and pour the Sakrete into the bucket. You have now encapsulated the cartridges and also will eventually render them inert with the oil.

NOW, you have choices.....

Use the barrel (put an iron EYE RING in the Sakrete before it sets up) as an anchor.

Use it as an anchor the next time you bury an oil tank in a high water table back yard..... Typically you use drums........

Bury the container as a permanent "Property Line Corner marker"

Dispose of in a body of water not regulated by the CWA or the SPCC acts of the EPA or local governing authority. Farm ponds work well...

Dispose in the C&D bin at your local recycling center....although if they separate, eventually it will be broken down....but by then, the oil would have done the trick and it is "separated out" with re-bar.

YES...a little tongue in cheek....assuming you do not just carry it to a Range that accepts DUD's or your local LEO that does.....that is the easiest....but if you want to safely dispose of it....then see above.

YES....I do have some INSIGHT.....I was Director of Environmental and Safety for a division of an S&P500 company and we had to get rid of a LOT of stuff when we closed plants and used logical methods to reduce the cost of "Lab Packs"....

Don't ask me or a fellow member here about HOW to get rid of Picric Acid.....that was starting to GELL....

PS....EDITED NOTE.....SERIOUS.

Never, EVER, bury it or throw it in a hole in the back yard. THAT is some of the idiotic methods posed on OTHER blogs....who's members are not as astute as CFF. You have NO idea of what eventually will be done on the property or who might pick it up 50 years from now...

I can tell you from practical experience as well as having some chemical background that Powder is NOT as easily rendered INERT as some folks purport.

Several cases in point. Pyrodex, purchased in the mid 80's worked fine through 2005....when I quit hunting. The BP rifle was a wall piece as well as functional. Inadvertently, I left it loaded. when I sold it in 2018, I discovered that. prior to the sale and cleaning, I used ONE cap to fire it and it was dead on @ 50 yards.

I got out of rifles and sold a bunch of IMR powders to the person that bought my hunting guns and dies. Discounted it of course and also told him that storage might be an issue as it lived in my basement for 10 years and in an attic for 20 more. He said the charges per the loading tables shot well and were still accurate.

I kept the pistol and shotgun powders....circa the mid 70's to early 80's. I did a side by side comparison of Unique. I can't tell the difference in the 1978 Unique vs the 1985 Unique vs the 2018 Unique.....so the BS about old powder being less powerful and unreliable does not square with my own experiences.... BTW. I DO properly STORE powder and Primers now...

A loaded round is like an undetonated BOMB or SHELL. IF you don't do the above, then at least pour oil in your can and then do the Sakrete encapsulation and bury the concrete.

I know too many folks with first hand experience that have told me spooky tales of old ammo still working or a BP guns still firing...

Good Luck.....
 
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Picric acid is too interesting for my tastes. I have been told but have not experienced it that it becomes extremely unstable when dry such that it can go off with a little agitation. My professor had a bottle of it in the cabinet above which I did my own research. He used it in a concoction that was able to clear the exoskeletons of mosquitos so he could see where water mites had attached to them. I have done a lot of stupid stuff in my life but I never played with that bottle.
 
Picric acid is too interesting for my tastes. I have been told but have not experienced it that it becomes extremely unstable when dry such that it can go off with a little agitation. My professor had a bottle of it in the cabinet above which I did my own research. He used it in a concoction that was able to clear the exoskeletons of mosquitos so he could see where water mites had attached to them. I have done a lot of stupid stuff in my life but I never played with that bottle.

Have had Police Bomb Squads come and get it. Cleared the building and such. They carried it carefully in a sealed (supposedly bomb proof) container and had folks leading the blocking. Then they sort of "Threw it" in the back of a White Bronco (Don't GO THERE) that was High Rised....and then went bouncing off to the range go play with it. That is the TRUTH.....my Environmental and Safety Coordinator and I laughed our fannies off.

Have had Consultants come in and LAB PACK IT in suits....

BUT, one member here and I carried some down the hall and gently diluted it in warm water and sent it on it's way to the sanitary sewer system. We still retain ALL our appendages and no EMS were called.

I personally, if it started to show ANY evidence of crystallization, would run and get the heck out of there and let the bomb squad have fun....

It was widely used for metallurgical sample prep. Those metallurgists be strange folks with quare tastes.....
 
I did have a student blow up a toilet at a school in Alabama with some potassium he stole from the storage room in the chemistry lab.
 
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Wow. Didn't know this was a thing. Throw them in the trash or bury them in a hole and move on. .......or take them to battery oaks.
 
Wow. Didn't know this was a thing. Throw them in the trash or bury them in a hole and move on. .......or take them to battery oaks.

Nope....

Dispose of with the Battery Oaks guy or ENCAPSULATE in Sakrete and then landfill or start a fishing reef. Do NOT bury in backyard....that, seriously, endangers folks in the future. Dud rounds are STILL dangerous.... Try POLICE DEPARTMENT if all else fails. The "Forgiven" Hazardous Waste turn in days in most NC counties and cities SPECIFICALLY exclude ammo....good or bad.

MOST ranges have a DUD or misfired container.

I am NOT a screaming card carrying liberal or tree hugger. I WAS the the Director of Safety for a division of a Fortune 500/SP 500 corporation and I KNOW about risks. Dud AMMO is like a dormant rattle snake....except it will live for a century...

OTHER option....per the BLOGS....and UNTESTED and NOT Verified is to SOAK IN OIL for a decade or so....then the powder is inert...

Bullet Pullers were made for such.....I know....I use them constantly when setting up my Dillon...
 
Nope....

Dispose of with the Battery Oaks guy or ENCAPSULATE in Sakrete and then landfill or start a fishing reef. Do NOT bury in backyard....that, seriously, endangers folks in the future. Dud rounds are STILL dangerous.... Try POLICE DEPARTMENT if all else fails. The "Forgiven" Hazardous Waste turn in days in most NC counties and cities SPECIFICALLY exclude ammo....good or bad.

MOST ranges have a DUD or misfired container.

I am NOT a screaming card carrying liberal or tree hugger. I WAS the the Director of Safety for a division of a Fortune 500/SP 500 corporation and I KNOW about risks. Dud AMMO is like a dormant rattle snake....except it will live for a century...

OTHER option....per the BLOGS....and UNTESTED and NOT Verified is to SOAK IN OIL for a decade or so....then the powder is inert...

Bullet Pullers were made for such.....I know....I use them constantly when setting up my Dillon...

Dud explosives maybe...but a dud 9mm? Europe is home to probably billions of unspent small arms ammo laying buried in battlefields from WWI and WWII...but I’ve never heard of a farmer plowing a field and a dud 8mm goes off....


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Dud explosives maybe...but a dud 9mm? Europe is home to probably billions of unspent small arms ammo laying buried in battlefields from WWI and WWII...but I’ve never heard of a farmer plowing a field and a dud 8mm goes off....


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MAY BE. I dont't argue that there are millions of unexploded ordanances out there. I have a friend that makes a virtual FORTUNE at Fort Bragg. He has the contract to "mow" firing ranges. He has a monster " Mulch Maker" (kind they use on powerline right of ways). He comes in and literally destroys all the pine saplings and nature reseeding. He does NOT penetrate the ground. AFTER he clear a few acres, the Ordanance Guys, in full bomb proof attire, the do a Ground Penetrating Radar Scan and then excavate the DUDS. He has to sign more releases than Stormy Daniels did....but he gets paid 4 or 5 times his excessive, NORMAL, hourly machine rate. He pays his operator "Hazardous Duty" pay and only lets the ones that are REALLY good do the job because the spinning head or reel with the TC tipped swinging blades or teeth will chew up a 8" pine log in one pass. I know....I had him clear some land. IF they get deep and penetrate the soil....BOOMSY is the result.... NOPE....these are NOT 9mm. BUT kids pick up things and play with them...

I don't suppose you have ever talked to a restoration gunsmith that "FIRED" an old external hammer gun? I guess that I err on the side of thinking about my GK's GK's digging in the backyard and finding a dud 45 and then playing with it and it going off. SO. I still stand by my advice. Don't bury any dud rounds. Turn them in for safe disposal. If not possible....soak them in oil. IF you mix up a bag of Sakrete in a 5 gallon pail (smeared with grease first), you can put an entire lifetime's worth of DUDS (unless you are NOT a competent handloader or buy cheap ammo) and then have ONE good SAFE boat anchor or drop it into a pond.

My thoughts.....do as you please just think of future generations.....
 
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