Dumb Question - Any Gov Reason to Hold Off on Form 1?

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With everything going on right now, has anyone here put NFA plans on hold? I have an SBR candidate I had planned to begin rolling the ball on during the last administration, but laziness kicked in life plans changed. Now I find myself itching to restart those plans, but with the current administration I don't know if it's the best idea right now. Not really sure what's giving me anxiety about all this, but it just feels like a weird time to go back (even further) on the alphabet radar.

Am I just being paranoid?
 
We are both being paranoid. We both have the same plan but are procrastinating on getting it done. Was recently notified that ATF is reviewing my form4 that I put in at the beginning of the year. Sorta holding off till I see the ATF is happy with my NFA gun TRUST. It is hard for me to keep the ATF form1 money from being used to buy another handgun.
 
Just file it. You ought to have it back in 2-4 weeks, unless you go into the BGC black hole.

You have 3 years from the date you pay the tax to ask for a refund if you decide to never make/modify the firearm into an NFA firearm.
 
Just file it. You ought to have it back in 2-4 weeks, unless you go into the BGC black hole.

You have 3 years from the date you pay the tax to ask for a refund if you decide to never make/modify the firearm into an NFA firearm.
I didn't know about the refund part. I need to do that for my Zenith...
 
I didn't know about the refund part. I need to do that for my Zenith...
Yep. It was one of those times I chose to mess with the ATF. I had an approved F1 for a can that I needed help to build, and wasn’t sure if it was going to happen. I knew the 36mo deal, but emailed the NFA Division to ask, since I was getting close to the 3yr mark. ATF said 12 months…so I replied with the statute and asked if that had changed. He said “oh, I guess it’s 36 months”. 🤣
 
For anybody that wants it…

27 CFR § 479.172 Refunds.
As indicated in this part, the transfer tax or tax on the making of a firearm is ordinarily paid by the purchase and affixing of stamps, while special tax stamps are issued in payment of special (occupational) taxes. However, in exceptional cases, transfer tax, tax on the making of firearms, and/or special (occupational) tax may be paid pursuant to assessment. Claims for refunds of such taxes, paid pursuant to assessment, shall be filed on ATF Form 2635 (5620.8) within 3 years next after payment of the taxes. Such claims shall be filed with the Chief, National Firearms Act Branch serving the region in which the tax was paid. (For provisions relating to hand-carried documents and manner of filing, see 26 CFR 301.6091-1(b) and 301.6402-2(a).) When an applicant to make or transfer a firearm wishes a refund of the tax paid on an approved application where the firearm was not made pursuant to an approved Form 1 (Firearms) or transfer of the firearm did not take place pursuant to an approved Form 4 (Firearms), the applicant shall file a claim for refund of the tax on ATF Form 2635 (5620.8) with the Director. The claim shall be accompanied by the approved application bearing the stamp and an explanation why the tax liability was not incurred. Such claim shall be filed within 3 years next after payment of the tax.

(68A Stat. 808, 830; 26 U.S.C. 6511, 6805)
[T.D. ATF-270, 53 FR 10512, Mar. 31, 1988, as amended by ATF 2013R-9F, 79 FR 46693, Aug. 11, 2014]
 
For anybody that wants it…

27 CFR § 479.172 Refunds.
As indicated in this part, the transfer tax or tax on the making of a firearm is ordinarily paid by the purchase and affixing of stamps, while special tax stamps are issued in payment of special (occupational) taxes. However, in exceptional cases, transfer tax, tax on the making of firearms, and/or special (occupational) tax may be paid pursuant to assessment. Claims for refunds of such taxes, paid pursuant to assessment, shall be filed on ATF Form 2635 (5620.8) within 3 years next after payment of the taxes. Such claims shall be filed with the Chief, National Firearms Act Branch serving the region in which the tax was paid. (For provisions relating to hand-carried documents and manner of filing, see 26 CFR 301.6091-1(b) and 301.6402-2(a).) When an applicant to make or transfer a firearm wishes a refund of the tax paid on an approved application where the firearm was not made pursuant to an approved Form 1 (Firearms) or transfer of the firearm did not take place pursuant to an approved Form 4 (Firearms), the applicant shall file a claim for refund of the tax on ATF Form 2635 (5620.8) with the Director. The claim shall be accompanied by the approved application bearing the stamp and an explanation why the tax liability was not incurred. Such claim shall be filed within 3 years next after payment of the tax.

(68A Stat. 808, 830; 26 U.S.C. 6511, 6805)
[T.D. ATF-270, 53 FR 10512, Mar. 31, 1988, as amended by ATF 2013R-9F, 79 FR 46693, Aug. 11, 2014]
Interesting, so in theory if I made my own suppressor and it sucked I could just say I never made it and ask for a tax stamp refund....

Oh and for OPs question I agree we are already on their radar. I just popped my cherry and finished up my application today. NOW THE WAIT
 
Interesting, so in theory if I made my own suppressor and it sucked I could just say I never made it and ask for a tax stamp refund....

Oh and for OPs question I agree we are already on their radar. I just popped my cherry and finished up my application today. NOW THE WAIT
In theory, yes. And you’d be lying when you did it.
 
Interesting, so in theory if I made my own suppressor and it sucked I could just say I never made it and ask for a tax stamp refund....

Oh and for OPs question I agree we are already on their radar. I just popped my cherry and finished up my application today. NOW THE WAIT
if lying is the route you want to go, there's also nothing stopping you from just trying over and over, using the same identifying marks on each one.
that would also be incredibly illegal, but maybe hard to catch/prosecute unless they were reaaaally watching your purchases.
 
if lying is the route you want to go, there's also nothing stopping you from just trying over and over, using the same identifying marks on each one.
that would also be incredibly illegal, but maybe hard to catch/prosecute unless they were reaaaally watching your purchases.
Im sure that never happens. :)

Ive even heard of people using a trust making identical silencers with the same information engraved on them. Brother in one state has one, so does a brother in another state. One form, multiple cans. I suppose one could do the same thing with other NFA goodies . Not legal but probably more common than you'd think.
 
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I've been curious if it's possible to form 1 these modular silencers. The ones that take different attachments and can also have another piece screwed into the end to make it longer. Would it be 2 suppressors? Or could it be put into the paperwork as a modular suppressor when you request the tax stamp?

And these fuel or oil filter adapters what's the silencer that would need to be registered the filter itself or the actual thread adapter that changes the 1x28 to whatever that cheap Chinese fuel filter is?
 
I've been curious if it's possible to form 1 these modular silencers. The ones that take different attachments and can also have another piece screwed into the end to make it longer. Would it be 2 suppressors? Or could it be put into the paperwork as a modular suppressor when you request the tax stamp?

And these fuel or oil filter adapters what's the silencer that would need to be registered the filter itself or the actual thread adapter that changes the 1x28 to whatever that cheap Chinese fuel filter is?
I have several form 1 modulars. You just register it as the max length.

I dont know why youd want to do that but yeah, the filter adapter gets registered.

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