I've seen scopes advertised with mil reticles and moa turrets. Can someone help me understand why the makers would mix the two in one scope? Doesn't that make it more complicated for the shooter?
Explain why optics makers do this?
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The only explanation is stupidity
Its simple.
Competitive Iron sights adjust in MOA.
Military Iron sights adjust in BDC
The first American Rifle Scope to have a Mil reticle was the USMC 10x Unertl Sniper Telescope. The reticle was Spider webbing and wax dots. The elevation is in BDC. The turret is marked with yard lines. 3 is not 3 MOA its 3oo yards. This adjustment was done in MOA but that is pointless because the DOPE was in a BDC not a MOA value.
As to the whole question of the "WHY" its simple.
Redfield zero targets have a 1" grid reference, American optics adjusted in 1/8, 1/4, 1/2 or 1 MOA. The placement of the reitcle was is a feature to sale more optics not to use the damn thing.
That is the way it used to be years back. My first few scopes were mil reticle and moa knobs. Was good to learn both but a pain to have two sets of data for dialing and holding and having to do conversions for dialing corrections.
Any scope doing it now is just not up to speed and shouldn't be purchased IMHO. No reason now to buy a miss matched scope. Even less expensive scopes now have matched reticles and knobs.
Any scope doing it now is just not up to speed and shouldn't be purchased IMHO. No reason now to buy a miss matched scope. Even less expensive scopes now have matched reticles and knobs.
So my stiener p4xi 1-4 is set up this way. And it makes quite a bit of since if you consider that you shouldn't need to adjust the capped turrets once its zeroed. As for that it is just easy with MOA turrets and a 1" grid target that you can find in any bigbox store nation wide or just make yourself with a straight edge and a marker.
MILS just make more sence when shooting because it makes the math easy with dots or with a simple BDC.
If its a scope with uncapped turrets you should probably have them matched.
MILS just make more sence when shooting because it makes the math easy with dots or with a simple BDC.
If its a scope with uncapped turrets you should probably have them matched.
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To counter your whole point. To keep the post alive.
.3 mil is 1.08" @ 100yds. If you use any Redfield style Target with the 1" boxes, keep 3/10 in mind per line.
This is why i tell people to think of a .1 mil optic as 1/3rd moa
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