I bought this anomaly about 2 years ago and somehow it got shuffled behind some other stuff and forgotten. Rediscovered it last week and was about to list it for sale so I went online to get a fair value and came across the threads about putting pistol buffers on them. Never thought of that but the more I looked the more I became interested so I tapped my source on such things @BigWaylon. He steered me to the 5 position SBA3 brace and buffer tube combo. Ordered that from Midway and the adapter from Copper Customs and 'viola, this is what I wound up with. 30" overall and weighs exactly 5# loaded. Took it to the range Wed and it will do one hole groups @ 25 yards with CCI Std. Velocity. I had the Leapers 6X and mounts in the scope drawer so that was a freebie. I think I may hang onto this and shoot it a little more before it winds up here for sale.