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I have been doing some reading and people like to bury guns. How would you do it without damaging the gun? Like a AR is mostly aluminum but the trigger, BCG and barrel are normally steel so wouldn't they rust if you put them in a sealed container like pvc pipe? Vacuum seal them? What about battery powered optics?
 
I don't think you're going to keep a gun clean and rust/ corrosion free buried in the ground.
in pipe, filled with oil... Maybe. But then you could not have any wood on it. Oil may affect plastic after some time too.
 
I wouldn’t use vacuum for a whole rifle because it would require a valve and a small leak will pull in moisture, but for bagging small parts it would be great.

For long term storage I’d break an AR down and cover the barrel and steel parts with something like cosmoline, bag and seal what you can, slide it into the pvc pipe, throw in some desiccant and an oxygen absorber, seal it up and bury it. I’d probably prepare these tubes on a cold winter day when humidity levels are low, then rent an auger for digging the holes.

It’d be a tough environment for electronics, and battery technology changes. If you’re thinking 5 years just bag the optic separate from some lithium batteries. If you’re thinking 20+ years I would not try to store electronics.
 
Cleaned and oiled well, batteries removed and stored in a pill bottle, toss in some descants and O2 obsorbers, clean and glue the PVC pipe properly I see no problem.
Don't forget some extra mags and ammo, and some survival tools. and you will need a hacksaw stored close as well.
 
Glue up PVC, oxy/moisture absorbents, coat in BreakFree storage oil or equivalent, grease threads on endcap, bury with auger, spread area with 10+ pounds of 1/4" washers (metal detector diversion), GPS record location.
 
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Previous posters have the storage suggestions down pretty well.
But, I would also add that if you're envisioning a full on agressive confiscation effort, you have to assume the .gov will come full force with all their gadgets so you should consider a few things.

1. Keep a few throw aways.

Gov knows what we have, so keep a couple to give them to foster the illusion of compliance.
Live to fight another day.

2. Have a good story.

Again, Gov knows what we have. When they show up with a list of everything youve bought, have a good story about why you dont have most of them anymore.

3. Dont bury on your own property

What if they dont believe your story and start looking around?
You dont want disturbed earth or markers pointing to them.

3. Dont bury on own property part two.

Gov cant see any disturbed earth or obvious markers, but still dont believe you so they bring in ground radars, metal detectors or other cool toys.
Most of them are good down to 4-6 feet, although better ones do exist. Remember, this is a massive undertaking and there aren't enough Gov agents to do this alone, so they will be relying on local assets. How good are the metal detectors at your local agency?
Bury deep. I suggest at least 8 feet.

4. Do it off your property and use a natural landmark to point the way.

Dont need a signpost for Gov and I suggest getting as far away from your own property and as isolated as you can.

5. Bury in multiple spots.

This should be pretty self explanatory.

6. Dont forget ammo and spare mags.

And a lot.

7. Store, shovel, shut up.

The only secret in history that was ever kept was the one never shared.
Bury them, but for Gods sake, don't tell anyone. And definitely dont post about it here.
If you must tell someone, choose extremely wisely and don't tell one person all your burial spots.


Good luck with your preps.
 
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The Russians figured this one out a long time ago but I don't know - can you buy real deal Cosmoline today?

ETA: almost forgot - you don't need a saw to open a PVC container. All you need is some nylon string and elbow grease.
 
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No need to bury. Got a tractor?
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draco88 said:
Previous posters have the storage suggestions down pretty well.
But, I would also add that if you're envisioning a full on agressive confiscation effort, you have to assume the .gov will come full force with all their gadgets so you should consider a few things.
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If they start doing that, after the first one, the rest of us better mobilize. It would be a fool's move to sit and pray "please don't see me".
 
noway2 said:
If they start doing that, after the first one, the rest of us better mobilize. It would be a fool's move to sit and pray "please don't see me".
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And what if you're part of the first ones?
Operation Take The Guns kicks off one fine wekday in April and they have targeted you to be part of the first wave of confiscations.
They aren't coming to your home. No, that's way too dangerous for them. They are gonna catch you at your job, at home depot with your hands full, in a barbers chair, or something similar.
Once you are detained, that's when they go to your house and threaten/intimidate the Mrs with losing the kids until she gives up the guns at your house.
Once the Agents have thoroughly searched and are satisfied they have all your stuff, they release you and you head off to your rally point.
When you get there, what story do you tell?
Is it the story that ends with "They let me go and I came here. Does anybody have a rifle and pistol I can use?"
Or is it the story that ends with "They let me go, I swung by one of my burial spots, then came here. Im ready, whats our next move?"

Nobody is saying sit, pray, and hope you're not seen. You are correct, that's a fools errand.
But what's the harm in sticking one or two guns back somewhere just in case you find yourself without anything at all?
 
I still don't believe we will ever see major national confiscation and these door to door mass invasions.

But, what >may< happen, in my opinion, is they spread these "red flag" laws under the guise of "at least we are doing something" and then it becomes common to have a "red flag" called on people by their fudd/anti neighbors. A few innocents will be shot, but no one will know/care because "The police were just doing their jobs and the guy shot at them with their high capacity fully semi-automatic black rifles".
 
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They'll come for guns the way you cook frogs, at little at a time, so we/they sit there getting use to it.
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Say what???? That's not how I cook frogs.... You're thinking about cannibals and the boiling pot with the white guys sitting in it...smiling...
 
things like this are already "in the books".
it doesn't take much to see how "silent witnesses" could take them all away:

The NCWRC established NC Turn-In-Poachers (TIP) program as a silent witness, anti-poaching program that encourages the public to report any suspicious activity or knowledge about poaching violations.
 
JimB said:
I wouldn’t use vacuum for a whole rifle because it would require a valve and a small leak will pull in moisture...
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Better to purge it and pressurize it with CO2 or Nitrogen.

So, then it stays there, and you never dig it up, and your heirs forget where you put it, and it becomes a time capsule.
 
Ive got to ask...WHY?
 
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And what if you're part of the first ones?
Operation Take The Guns kicks off one fine wekday in April and they have targeted you to be part of the first wave of confiscations.
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No doubt, it would suck to be the first. If this sort of thing starts happening, those that aren’t the first better go on the defensive right quick. Which to your point of:
But what's the harm in sticking one or two guns back somewhere just in case you find yourself without anything at all?
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Is quite valid and there is nothing wrong with dong so. However it doesn’t change the fact that if people feel the need to do this, then it is a key indicator that conflict is coming. Trust me, if I were unlucky enough to be targeted for confiscation, should I survive the event, there would be a trail of wailing widows in my wake.

The gun grabbers think they can “pass a law” and their enforcers are going to take all the guns away and they’ll be kings and queens in the land of unicorn dung. They assume everyone will be as easily intimidated as they are. It’s not going to happen.
 
However, you have to admit that along the way to that unfortunate day, we have been intimidated quite easily, and have taken little action.

The Tyrants have "passed laws" and their enforcers have followed orders, and they are kings and queens in the land of the promise of unicorn dung!
 
I agree that confiscation is a very unlikely event(the Australians also believed this). If however you feel you must hide your firearms why not just seal them up however you feel is best(lots of ideas in this thread) and then just put them in your hvac galvanized steel ductwork? Even if you have to hang a "dummy" run of duct that doesn't actually connect to anything in your crawlspace or attic that is less work than digging up the countryside and will also confuse a metal detector. As an added bonus, a length of steel duct with steel end caps properly installed and sealed should make a great faraday cage.
 
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FredB said:
I agree that confiscation is a very unlikely event(the Australians also believed this). If however you feel you must hide your firearms why not just seal them up however you feel is best(lots of ideas in this thread) and then just put them in your hvac galvanized steel ductwork? Even if you have to hang a "dummy" run of duct that doesn't actually connect to anything in your crawlspace or attic that is less work than digging up the countryside and will also confuse a metal detector. As an added bonus, a length of steel duct with steel end caps properly installed and sealed should make a great faraday cage.
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That's an awesome idea!
I agree that outright confiscation probably won't happen. My thought based on past and current events is that they will ban everything a little at the time. Bump stocks first, then evil black rifles and 30 round mags, then all semi autos, then pump action rifles & shotguns and revolvers, then bolt action guns and finally single shot guns. Then we'll be totally defenseless and unable to resist the pink genital hat wearing oppressors.
 
FredB said:
I agree that confiscation is a very unlikely event(the Australians also believed this). If however you feel you must hide your firearms why not just seal them up however you feel is best(lots of ideas in this thread) and then just put them in your hvac galvanized steel ductwork? Even if you have to hang a "dummy" run of duct that doesn't actually connect to anything in your crawlspace or attic that is less work than digging up the countryside and will also confuse a metal detector. As an added bonus, a length of steel duct with steel end caps properly installed and sealed should make a great faraday cage.
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A fake run of 4" PVC drain pipe in the joists with all the rest of the piping will go unnoticed. Glue on a clean out and a screw cap and instant storage.
 
Gazengine said:
A fake run of 4" PVC drain pipe in the joists with all the rest of the piping will go unnoticed. Glue on a clean out and a screw cap and instant storage.
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While this is certainly true and in my opinion a better idea than burying the pipe, it does not defeat a metal detector or double as a faraday cage to protect electronics, which galvanized steel hvac duct does.
 
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