Fitting a .45 ACP cylinder to a .45 Colt Revolver.

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This is a project I completed in August 2021. Maybe someone will be interested in reading about it?

I had purchased a used Uberti Cattleman II, birds head grip, 3.5" barrel, in .45 Colt. Looks like new, shoots great, but shoots low, as kind of expected.

I have some .45 ACP ammo that needs shooting up. I ordered a .45 ACP cylinder from VTI Parts. Very, very, prompt service. Cylinder didn't come close to fitting. Short story . . . removed .006 off of ratchets and .012 off of the cylinder pin. Used 360 sandpaper, on quarter inch piece of glass. The glass offered a very flat surface. Polished sanded surfaces with 800 grit. All sanding done with circular motions, switching grip on the pin and cylinder, often. I kept sanding, fitting, sanding, fitting, sanding, fitting, under I got fitment, to suit me. .004 cylinder to barrel gap and no cylinder end shake

Loaded six rounds of cartridges, with no binding when rotating the cylinder. Cold blued the sanded surfaces. I now have a .45 Colt/.45 ACP convertible revolver!

200 grain X-Treme bullets over 5.2 grains of HP-38 is accurate and has low recoil. I love this revolver. The .45 Colt cylinder is in the box. It will be a while before it is needed again!

The .45 Colt cylinder fit pretty good. I measured it, and then measured the new .45 AP cylinder. I did a little math and came up with the following:
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I had to remove another .002 from the head of the cylinder pin. Bingo! Cylinder then closed nicely. Wound up with 004 cylinder to barrel gap and no cylinder end shake.

The first picture is of the .45 ACP cylinder and cylinder bushing, after fitting. The second picture is the revolver with the .45 ACP cylinder installed. The third picture is the revolver in a DeSantis cross draw holster.

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Nice job! She looks awesome! Wouldn’t mind having one of those myself.
 
Very cool! Beautiful! Going to have to look into that myself. Headspace is against the case mouth?

@Gunbelt
 
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Straight wall pistol cartridges, head space is only a suggestion. If the firing pin hits it you're good.
I was actually wondering if the cylinder used moon rings or if the 45 ACP rounds seated against ridges in the chamber wall.
 
I was actually wondering if the cylinder used moon rings or if the 45 ACP rounds seated against ridges in the chamber wall.

I'm gonna guess that since its a single action, the ACP will headspace on the case mouth just like in a 1911.
 
I'm gonna guess that since its a single action, the ACP will headspace on the case mouth just like in a 1911.
That's what I was thinking, but wasn't assuming. Otherwise, you'd have to pull the cylinder to load and remove casings, but I've seen such gyrations.
 
Yeah if you used moon clips or 45 auto rim you can shoot 45acp in a 45 colt gun. Very few 45 colt revolvers are gonna work with moon clips.
Huh? It's a single action. Why would you need that
It's a conversion to 45ACP. The cartridge has to stop against something and 45ACP is rimless. So, the cartridge "headspaces" on the case mouth or something has to retain the "rimless" rim via some device, unless you're shooting 45 AutoRim. The case "could" stop against the "forcing cone" in the cylinder, but that would be inconsistent. I assumed headspace on the case mouth, but you can never tell what people come up with.
 
It's a conversion to 45ACP. The cartridge has to stop against something and 45ACP is rimless. So, the cartridge "headspaces" on the case mouth or something has to retain the "rimless" rim via some device, unless you're shooting 45 AutoRim. The case "could" stop against the "forcing cone" in the cylinder, but that would be inconsistent. I assumed headspace on the case mouth, but you can never tell what people come up with.
How could you fire it if the primer isn't there to be hit
 
That's what I was thinking, but wasn't assuming. Otherwise, you'd have to pull the cylinder to load and remove casings, but I've seen such gyrations.
Like those conversion cylinders for cap and ball revolvers. I dont like them because of that.
 
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