Harris: Proposes Law, Restrict 2A for Suspected White Nationalists that are A CLEAR Danger

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  1. YeeHaa

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    Kamala Harris on Wednesday said if elected president she will press Congress to pass a red flag law that would allow law enforcement officials to temporarily seize the firearms of white nationalists that may be on the verge of carrying out a hate crime.

    The Democratic presidential candidate's proposal calls for the creation of “domestic terrorism prevention orders” that would give law enforcement and family members of suspected white nationalists or domestic terrorists the ability to petition a federal court to temporarily restrict a person’s access to guns if the person exhibits clear evidence of being a danger.

    “We need to take action to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people and stop violent, hate-fueled attacks before they happen,” Harris said. “By focusing on confronting these domestic terror threats, we can save lives.”

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-law-targeting-white-nationalists/2009237001/
     
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    Wait, so specifically white people? Really? She can't have actually said that.
     
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    Start in Chicago and get those two white guys shouting "MAGA COUNTRY!"
     
  4. GeorgeBush

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    Handguns in 5 cities, mostly illegal weapons, gun violence no longer a talking point.

    Yet here we are.

    EDIT: If it makes them feel better, I don't care, don't even record the racial data of whose carrying them. Criminals are all the same to me-
     
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    The California senator said she would also look to use executive order, if Congress didn’t act within 100 days of her taking office, to require background checks on all online gun sales. Currently, it’s possible to purchase a weapon online without a background check in 30 states.

    Really?? How and where does that work?


    And what exactly is a "white nationalist"? (asking for a friend)
     
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    SCshooter57 covfefe Charter Life Member Life Member

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    That's not how I read it. What you're describing is ultimately a face-to-face deal between two individuals (yeah I know the left hates that too.) And there are laws in place that govern that deal. (Are you a prohibited person? Got your PPP?)

    I read her statement to imply I can order and pay online with someplace like Bud's and in 30 states have it shipped to my house. That's BS.
     
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    I don't know anybody on this forum who would sell a handgun to a stranger and not even want to lay eyes on a PPP or CHP. The very nature of both of those documents is essentially a background check completed by someone else.
     
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    She's the most problematic candidate because she can actually get the most done. She will just hop in bed with anyone who says they're voting no.

    That isn't a metaphor.
     
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    It’s disgusting how acceptable racism has become today. It’s also ironic that today’s racism is justified internally by the racism of 60-70yr ago. However today’s is almost exactly the opposite of racism 60-70 years ago.

    We had laws targeting blacks, now the left is proposing laws targeting whites.

    It’s like “who is the boogeyman today?”
     
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    Like that shooting in Philly the other day where cops were targeted.. I think 6 got shot? Anyway, the rest of the cops that responded were having to deal with a crowd of pedestrians throwing junk at them.
     
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    rdinatal Better late then never...

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    Heck, I want to know where I can get a gun "online".
     
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    What racism has become acceptable today? Racism from what group, and directed to what group?
     
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    Allowing this current government to say who a White nationalist is ,that is dangerous.

    The leftists say people who came here " Illegally " are victims somehow. Then gun owners are victims of the leftists. We operate within the legal boundaries, but are victimized.

    I don't believe anyone should victimize someone because of their color or where they are from, you should be judged by your heart and your actions. Criminals are just criminals and should be judged as such.
     
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    IMHO, these "Poverty Pimps" ( AKA Leftest ) keep Pandering to mostly the lower income level people ( US Citizens and Imported , hum, People ) which are also predominantly >Uneducated< , >Under-educated< , >Low or NO Skill Set < , >Spoiled Brat~s Living in Parents Basement or Garage< and inferring their lack(?) of success is because they've been and still are being Oppressed!
    The Poverty Pimps redirect ( by suggestion ) the reason these types are being disenfranchised is because Trump is evil.
    This serves Two purposes, first the Left Hates Trump ( because Killary didn't Cheat good enough to win the Oval Office, which all normal folks know understand) which keeps unjust heat & unproductive resources dedicated to damage control by Trump and second to widen the Divide Politically and Socially.

    With the on going >Running of our Southern Border< and even with Trump using the same damn laws "O" did the Left made it a Wedge Issue. Now with a few Nut - Cases shooting people the Left is "Cherry Picking" the tragedies the feature ( Presumably ) a >"WHITE"< shooter and recently are very fast to add Nationalist to supposedly start a Sub-Class of "White Nationalist" that are Evil. It almost seems as if even if one is White and doesn't like Trump you are now a White Nationalist.

    Now to "Gun Control(???)" I believe any and all of the existing "Red Flag Laws" are Blatantly Unconstitutional as to currently to deny 2A Rights Many other Constitutional Rights are violated or just conveniently Ignored, period.

    So, here's the other "Foot Falling", anyone or person, whether they like or hate firearms, that supports these "Red Flag Law~s(?)" as a good idea BETTER Think Twice because you may get more than you bargained for!
    SO what because you don't have or like firearms?
    Well because you've already endorsed and supported a series of Unconstitutional acts against firearm owners to rid them of their property ( in this example firearms ) so what's to stop the "Ruling Class" to go after you without 'Due Process", "Illegal Search", and on & on. YUP!

    At one time wasn't it that only property owners were allowed to vote?
    Maybe we should go back to that standard because with idiots, Imported voters ( citizens?) , making decisions or allowed to participate in elections with NO Skin In The Game is getting to be a "Fail-Fail."
     
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    Only property owners should be allowed to vote. If you have no skin in the game you shouldn't be allowed any say-so.
     
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    This is what was known as a Pole Tax.
     
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    Waiting for them to stop C&R direct sales.
     
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    I went on a rant at my mom's house one evening about the current state of affairs. I ended it with "and this country started going downhill the day women were given the right to vote."

    Apparently, it was a very entertaining rant. My Stepdad said before I left, "I wish I would have videod that."
     
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    How about those who paid more in taxes than services received only get to vote. We're paying for it, we should have a say in how things are run.

    I paid $540 in county and city property taxes. I received no services for my county taxes. And for the city, only thing I get is harassment for not following tidy town regs.

    Time to hit the reset button.

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    @Railsplitter What he said ^^. I find it most disgusting that it's not only become socially acceptable but we have the media propagating it and politicians, our supposed leaders, pushing it for their benefit every chance they get.
     
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    And you've got the White Guilt people apologizing for being white. That just bolsters the reverse discrimination movement.
     
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    Just as much as "reverse discrimination" does.
     
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    Unbelievable.
     
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    White: anyone the left decides isn’t oppressed enough

    Nationalist: anyone who believes in the constitution the way it was written


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    Currently, it’s possible to purchase a weapon online without a background check in 30 states.

    Really?? How and where does that work?


    i think she’s talking about us, here on the forum, buying and selling guns, you know, as allowed by the laws governing this great state.
     
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    I've wondered about this common talking point of the leftists for a while and came to the conclusion that technically you can buy a gun online without a background check, you just can't receive it without one.
     
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    Got Yah

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    I believe Harris is referring to programs setup by Big Brother in which one needs the ph number and the secret handshake, such as:

    State Sen. Leland Yee accused of bribery, wire fraud
    State Senator Leland Yee was arrested for bribery, corruption, and gun trafficking. The FBI sweep also snared a reputed Chinatown gangster.
    Yee is charged with six counts of depriving the public of honest services and one count of conspiracy to traffic in guns without a license.

    https://abc7news.com/19494/


    Big South Wholesale

    Would-be smugglers appeared, looking to buy untaxed cigarettes. Some offered cash. Others offered to trade stolen property or guns.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/08/us/atf-tobacco-cigarettes.html

    Fast and Furious

    Fast and Furious Benghazi

     
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    Use “red flag laws” against white nationalists. That dumb Jamaican mulatto just handed us the evidence that these so called “red flag laws” would be abused and used to target political opponents.
     
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    Not picking on you, BUT

    I agree with the exception that she's NOT Dumb.

    She's playing / Pandering to a Base that doesn't understand or care about what's at Stake.

    Plus, Toss Imported / Illegal voters in the mix and they will not care at all because, well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    Nows our chance.png

    Trump, I'm in the way.jpg
     
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    Fortunately, Harris’ polling amongst blacks is near zilch. Prosecuting them for using MJ while doing so herself I think is a major turn off to them.
     
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    "Nationalist"- believe in Constitution and that America is exceptional .
    "White" - Not a protected class
     
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    Apparently it is a "thing".
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    That used to be the case. Oh hell, you remember, you were there.
     
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    You mean that White Nationalist that shot those cops??? No wait, that was a Black Crack Dealer, so that's OK. All the others in the crowd assaulting and taunting the cops, they were just more White Nationalists, Right??? No, wait, Black Ghetto trash. But the problem is all the White Nationalists shootin everyone.
     
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    How about a law against people who are CLEAR IDIOTS?