Help Find Old Tractor/Forklift/Agg Oil Type

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Get Off My Lawn

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I've an OLD Sellick lift that takes Ford M2C53A or Gulf Duratran equivalent oil in the drive axle assembly axle with a built in fwd/neutral/rev transmission.
I'm not having any luck finding equivalent oil. I've only found people's thoughts.
I called Gregory Poole to no avail, "It's an axle, I'd put 80/90 weight in it." He didn't even try to cross the numbers.
 
Get Off My Lawn said:
I've an OLD Sellick lift that takes Ford M2C53A or Gulf Duratran equivalent oil in the drive axle assembly axle with a built in fwd/neutral/rev transmission.
I'm not having any luck finding equivalent oil. I've only found people's thoughts.
I called Gregory Poole to no avail, "It's an axle, I'd put 80/90 weight in it." He didn't even try to cross the numbers.
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Sounds like what our old tractors and fork lifts used called a power reverser power train. In those it used a hydraulic oil. If the transmission is built with clutch packs it would be a hydraulic/ transmission oil that is a straight 10wt oil. If it is a gear transmission it would be gear oil.
 
heavydoc said:
Sounds like what our old tractors and fork lifts used called a power reverser power train. In those it used a hydraulic oil. If the transmission is built with clutch packs it would be a hydraulic/ transmission oil that is a straight 10wt oil. If it is a gear transmission it would be gear oil.
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I'm leaning towards Tractor Fluid. Decades ago I topped off the fluid with the wrong type of oil in an old CAT forklift transmission (ATF instead of Tractor Fluid). The transmission was trash in a week. I'm now A LOT less confident pouring "good enough".
 
Get Off My Lawn said:
I'm leaning towards Tractor Fluid. Decades ago I topped off the fluid with the wrong type of oil in an old CAT forklift transmission (ATF instead of Tractor Fluid). The transmission was trash in a week. I'm now A LOT less confident pouring "good enough".
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Have you tried contacting a different dealer?
 
heavydoc said:
Have you tried contacting a different dealer?
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I started sending emails after 5pm. We just loaded a yuge timber home kit onto 4 48" flatbeds. The lift stopped moving at one point... perfect, now we have 3 lifts with failed/failing transmissions.

To make it mo betta, one of the drivers refused to listen when told it's a tight mountainous type driveway, wait until morning. It's tipped and slid off the driveway according to the GC.
 
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If you enlarge this it says duratran is compatible with J20C which is john deere hygard and the Napa tractor/hydraulic transmission oil is compatible with that
 
Yup. According to that chart it’s basically Allison TD/TO fluid. Andy - it’s closer to ATF than Gear oil. Sorry for the bad advice earlier….
 
Scsmith42 said:
Yup. According to that chart it’s basically Allison TD/TO fluid. Andy - it’s closer to ATF than Gear oil. Sorry for the bad advice earlier….
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I pulled a plug after we spoke & it’s a lot thinner than 90 weight. I then called around, sent emails. But what usually works, did.
I reached out to the CFF A-team for the answer.
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Email from the mfg, Sellick:
"The Ford specification M2C53A was superseded years ago by the Ford 134D specification. The international specification would be M2C134D. A good example would be Mobilfluid 424 (see product data sheet attached) which is a multipurpose tractor lubricant."
 
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