Home defense 12 gauge load?

Since I first discovered online gun forums sometime circa 2006 or 2007, I must've participated in 1,345,298 variations of this particular discussion. Many of them end in butthurt because of differences of opinions..... And that's all they are is opinions.....

Some of those opinions are informed by actual hostile contact. Some are informed by the individual circumstances of the living space of the person opining. Some are based on gun shop/gun forum wisdom....

None are necessarily wrong or right as they are opinions....

Carry on y'all and load your shotgun how you wish. Bird, buck, slug, bolo, dragon's breath, fairy dust.... it's up to you....

no one has commented on Granny Clampett's rock salt loading yet...

penetration may be slight, but it sho nuff will be a literal pain in the rear.
 
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I've determined that I'm not going to knowingly be on the wrong end of a shotgun no matter how it is loaded....
 
no one has commented on Granny Clampett's rock salt loading yet...

penetration may be slight, but it sho nuff will be a literal pain in the rear.
I was thinking of this.earlier in the day while reading thread
 


Here is another demonstration. I fall on the side of “bird shot isn’t optimal, but inside of 5-7 yards it will be ok.”

I personally load with buckshot, the longest distance in my house I could conceivable shoot from would be well under 10 yards.


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Its videos like this that make me wonder why anyone would use anything other then a short barreled shot gun for home defense?
 
Its videos like this that make me wonder why anyone would use anything other then a short barreled shot gun for home defense?
While it is a long shot we would ever have to defend ourselves or our families I want the ability to take a more precision shot ... a centerfire round from a handgun or carbine. IF someone had my wife, child or other loved one I want to be able to drill the SOB with centerfire round rather than splatter with a fist size load of Buck. I know I have slugs on my sidesaddle but I am much better with a carbine or my HD handgun than I could be with a slug.
 
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Funny story about bird shot,,, I was out Snipe hunting down in the lower part of Florida. Walked a long ways and got lost as usual when I head a hunting buggy coming my way so I stuck my thumb out looking for a ride back to the camp ground. Two guys picked up and they were out hunting Snipe also.. We came across a wet land and decided to try our luck and fanned out.. We separated and started walking in waist high grass and then I heard a shot and then a yell " You shot me you SOB" I turned to look at the guy that yelled and he was about 75 feet away from his friend and watched him shoot back at the guy that shot him. Now this was in the fall time and we wearing light cammo jackets and the two morons proceeded to run jump and trade shots at each other. Me,, I hit the ground !! After they got done emptying their mags at each other and laughing the whole time, I heard one yell ? "Where's that A Hole we picked up ?" The other responded with :" Who cares, lets get back to camp" and the took off in their buggy. So,, I can tell you that bird shot really will not hurt you much if your wearing any sort of thick clothing at lets say,,,,,,,75-100 feet ? Me, I picked myself up, gathered the lost hunting dog I found earlier in the day and we hoofed it back to the camp ground a few miles away. Put the dog in the lost dog kennels they had set up there and had a good story at the camp fire that night for the friends I went there with. We were leaving the next morning so I checked the lost dog kennel and he was gone so Im guessing his owner found him. If he was still there, was planning on taking him home with me..
 
I prefer 00 buck in my 870s. Back in 09' had 50 Taliban attack our compound. One made it within 50 yds of my building. I had 3 ea 870 MCS each loaded with 00 buck and two Hungarian AMD-65 AKs in my room that night. That bad guy had a AK with a 30mm GL under it, spare mags in chest rig. Bunch of Russian fragmentation grenades and suicide vest on. I want him DOWN and not to be able to continue fighting. He was doped up too, had already taking a hit from a 7.62mm NATO out of a M240 coming across the airfield. Two Rangers later double tapped him with 5.56mm. Most of the others had a very short meeting with a AC-130!

10" with 9 pellet 00 buck


14" again with issue 9 pellet 00 buck


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