Honey Badger Clone in the Making, under $1k! **Completed**

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  1. Jerzsubbie

    Jerzsubbie Senior Member Charter Member Benefactor

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    I've loved the Honey Badger since it's introduction but didn't really see the point in 300blk until recently. With a 30cal can in NFA jail and the crazy deals out there right now, I've been very tempted to attempt this build.

    @JRHorne is partially to blame for posting some smoking deals on Aero FDE parts HERE.

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    Build list:
    Aero FDE M4E1 Gen2 Enhanced upper w/ 9" MLOK rail $195
    Ballistic Advantage 8" 1:7 .300blk barrel $110
    Aero FDE lower $70 (incl $15 shipping)
    Aero gas block $20
    Spike's pistol gas tube, black $15
    AIM NiB BCG $99
    MOE K grip $19
    PSA LPK $40
    BCM Mod4 CH $45
    Griffin Paladin taper mount brake free after Trump bucks rebate
    Griffin Flash can $90 (allow shooting unsuppressed)
    Subtotal $703
    The big question is the stock...
    SB Tac PDW pistol brace $240 (closest non NFA to a HB, 6.75" collapsed)
    LWRCi UCIW $88 (not PDW style, NFA +$250, cheap, definitely compact 6" collapsed)
    BAD Vert PDW stock $350 (seems damn near perfect, a little pricey, NFA +$250, 4.75" collapsed)

    Honey badger is 24" collapsed, the above with SBPDW and Griffin Alpha/Paladin suppressor would be 29.6". 2" of that is due to the 8" vs 6" barrel and 2" could be shaved off by going with the BAD Vert. Even at 29" it's still pretty darn compact considering my CZ Scorpion Evo3 SBR is 24" w/o suppressor.

    What do you guys think? Anything I'm overlooking? I will reload btw and have a 9mm can (subs only) & SBR lower I can use until my other item(s) get approved.

    I'm kind of leaning towards the SBPDW brace because of the simplicity of not SBR'ing another lower.
     
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    Sbr all the way and go with what ever stock you like the best.
     
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    Zedhound Now it has Charter Member

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    mine is close to what you're thinking, but I went with a sig brace and a locking collar and save a bunch of money. can it collapse? no but its a fixed "stock" which works great.
     
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    Jerzsubbie Senior Member Charter Member Benefactor

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    Have a pic to share? And how do you like it?
     
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    Zedhound Now it has Charter Member

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    ill take one when I get home. I really like my 300blk pistol. The "brace" is really secure and balances out the rifle. as far as the 300blk caliber I like the versatility of the round from shooting everything from 110gn to 208gn
     
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    Zedhound Now it has Charter Member

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    I found this on another thread I posted a short while back, right before I finished it. for what I use it for I don't see the need to drop 500+ or more making it a SBR, I just don't see the extra functionality from the money
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    The Maxim PDW brace is shorter than the SB, but a bit more $$.
     
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    Jerzsubbie Senior Member Charter Member Benefactor

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    Jerzsubbie Senior Member Charter Member Benefactor

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    So I found a great deal on a SBPDW brace and figure I can simply sell it for next to zero loss when/if I decide to SBR.
    I also read that Q is going to be releasing a stand alone honey badger stock that will presumably work with standard uppers. We'll see but I'm excited that this thing is coming together for easily under $1k!
     
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    Jerzsubbie Senior Member Charter Member Benefactor

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    Upper, handguard, and barrel are in. Most of the other parts will be in tomorrow. I mocked it up with my Octane9 and have a 5/8x24 fixed mount inbound so I can shoot subs while my 30cal is in jail.
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    NKD Senior Member Charter Member Benefactor Kimberless

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    I love these M4E Aero uppers.
    I put one similar upper together recently. They are a step up for sure! Super rigid and nice.
     
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    If this same weapon was built with a .223 Wylde chamber, how effective do you think it would be for say........hunting?
     
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    Depends what cartridge/bullet you use I think.
     
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    Jerzsubbie Senior Member Charter Member Benefactor

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    I'm not much of a hunter, upland bird mainly, but want to get into hogs. From my limited knowledge, .223 isn't a great hunting round unless you're going after small to mid-sized game and even then it's all about bullet selection and shot placement. I saw you stated you're looking at 10.5", you'll lose a ton of velocity vs anything published about bullet performance too.

    This would be one hell of a cool looking hunting rifle though! Reminds me of quail hunting w my 3gun shotgun, 9+1 limited to 2rds.
     
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    Jerzsubbie Senior Member Charter Member Benefactor

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    A bunch of parts were delivered today :) Only missing the brace and ammo, meaning no shooting it tomorrow :/
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    Jerzsubbie Senior Member Charter Member Benefactor

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    Here she is minus the brace... If only that guy would've shipped it from CA a day sooner.
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    Jerzsubbie Senior Member Charter Member Benefactor

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    Annnnnnd she is complete! The SB PDW brace is much better than I was expecting. I don't think I'll be in any big rush to SBR this one.

    Can't wait to get a couple mags through her!
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    Jerzsubbie Senior Member Charter Member Benefactor

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    Quick comparison shot: 14.5" pinned, HB Clone, CZ Scorpion SBR.
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    Only a few inches shorter than the 14.5" but this is suppressor vs none.
    OAL w/o suppressor the HB clone is 3/4" shorter than the Scorpion. I have an MI linear comp that fits flush with the handguard if shooting unsuppressed until I get the flash can.
     
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    The SB PDW is nice. High quality item.
     
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    That's it. I'm gonna build one.
     
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    Could you share any info on that holosun?
     
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    Jerzsubbie Senior Member Charter Member Benefactor

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    I have a handful of primary arms micros and really like them when used with ADM mounts. However there were some deals out there on Holosuns and I know Holosun is the OEM for PA plus they get good reviews, so I took a chance on this one for $129 from PA. I like it so far, 50k battery life is also a nice selling point.
     
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    Jerzsubbie Senior Member Charter Member Benefactor

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    Ok so I figured it out, with the help of someone on Arfcom... To match the Honey Badger's size it'll take an Omega 9K (4.7") and BAD Vert stock (4.75"), for an OAL of 24.95". Any shorter and you'll have to go with a shorter barrel.
     
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    Bro, you nailed the build. Waiting for range reports.

    Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
     
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    By the way, the new Honey Badger is 7" barrel. I wonder if they wanted to get a full twist of rifling in there?

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    Jerzsubbie Senior Member Charter Member Benefactor

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    Interesting. I haven't seen much about the new Q version but it would make sense in that the 5-6" barrels have a 1/5 twist vs the more usual 1/7.
    I'll have some ammo and time to test next weekend. I'll surely report back, and maybe grab a video.
     
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    Looks damn good. I'd like the same build but with a Geissele MK4 rail and MRO.
     
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    Jerzsubbie Senior Member Charter Member Benefactor

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    The one in the top of your first pic appears to be a universal prototype.
    I'm holding out to see which looks better, this or the BAD which DSG has on sale for $329 right now making it tempting.
     

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