How does the Assault Weapons ban affect NFA items?

Me. said:
Can you name any rulings that would prevent the Feds from writing up a law just like the '96 bban?
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Any reasonable, thinking, person should see that it would fall under heller’s in common use provision and bruen’s lack of historical equivalence. In the 90s ARs and similar were around 1% of the guns owned now it’s something like 20%. (Edit to add, in common use, even by police, for protection of self and others, too, not just sporting purposes). I would also hazard a guess that they would be protected by Miller because they have a military purpose as I believe Stoner developed the AR for the military.

Of course none of this means that some communistic tyrant isn’t going to ignore all that and make a BS proclamation because they want to. In which case I wouldn’t have any issues with that tyrant being hauled out and given a career change, either.
 
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He is talking about the ban that closed the gun show loophole that allowed career criminals to buy full auto assault rifles and shoot up schools. Barak Obama signed it into law and saved America with it.

Please try to keep up! :)
 
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Me. said:
And yet here we are, nearly 30 years since the AWB was enacted, and it is still in place, with none of the provisions removed.
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Then I guess the folks of NY just don’t want to be rid of it badly enough. Did the founders of the empire vote their way out from under the British? No. How many totalitarian regimes have been brought down by voting?
 
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The opposite is true, there is precedent that it can pass and withstand any challenge.
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The challenges it has faced were undoubtedly set under what is called intermediate scrutiny where it could be argued that the State has an interest, allegedly in safety but we know better. The use of that standard has been struck down. To the best of my knowledge it has never, yet, been challenged under the historical equivalent standard. A lot of these “bans” and other BS have fallen once challenged under that standard.

Does that mean it’s an automatic win? No, tyrants will still tyrant and bullies will still bully until we stand up to them.
 
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Back to how it might affect NFA, I'll agree with Dale for the most part.

Most types of NFA items aren't semi-automatic not mag-fed. (Silencers, pump shotguns, lever guns, etc.).


But any AWB that comes next WILL include a restriction on magazine capacity. And while that won't affect NFA weapons, it will make many of them slightly less fun.
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3D printers rock on.
 
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Any reasonable, thinking, person should see that it would fall under heller’s in common use provision and bruen’s lack of historical equivalence. In the 90s ARs and similar were around 1% of the guns owned now it’s something like 20%. (Edit to add, in common use, even by police, for protection of self and others, too, not just sporting purposes). I would also hazard a guess that they would be protected by Miller because they have a military purpose as I believe Stoner developed the AR for the military.

Of course none of this means that some communistic tyrant isn’t going to ignore all that and make a BS proclamation because they want to. In which case I wouldn’t have any issues with that tyrant being hauled out and given a career change, either.
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It would not surprise me if they point to 96 for Bruen and just lie about the numbers like they did the brace ban for Heller.
 
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Sorry, I know it doesn't really matter, but the federal AWB started in September 1994, not 1996.

As for how NFA firearms were effected by the ban, if they were semi-automatic, they were covered by the ban. You could not legally make, for instance, a 10.5" AR with a collapsible stock and a flash hider during the ban years. The fact that it was registered as a SBR did not mean it didn't also have to comply with the ban. There was some debate about this at the time. There will probably be some debate now, but the 1994 law didn't exempt guns just because they were covered by the NFA and nothing about being registered under the NFA exempted them from the ban. Machineguns, not being semi-automatic, were not impacted by the AWB.

As for what might happen in the future, impossible to be sure until and unless a law comes to pass. I would not count on the NFA being a work around for any such law.

People are generally not very good and being able to see the difference between what they want to be true and what actually is true. I see a lot of people posting about how Bruen will change everything going forward. Bruen isn't going to stop the antis from attempting to pass bans. When they are successful even challenges that eventually succeed will be years in the making. Look at bump stocks for an example. It has been what, 4 years? All we have to show for it are split federal circuits. Bump stocks are by definition not machineguns. This shouldn't be a hard decision. But, here we are. Expect the same with AWBs and the brace rule change.
 
I learn so much reading these threads! ( not sarcasm) .
Also- I’m glad I don’t actually own any guns besides my 1 NFA item and a Rusty single shot 20 gauge. …seems like they’re just a PITA.

Maybe they’ll buy back that single 20…..
 
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