Humbling experiences in training

Shooting under a barrricade, stood up and hooked my extra mag on it. Tore off the base plate, sent a nice fountain of 9mm all over the place.

Instructor was having us do quickdraw to get a baseline beep-to-bang time. Tells us under 1 sec is pretty good, I think maybe 2 out of the dozen of us could do that. This is with a concealed gun from shoulder height hands-up-dont-shoot position. I think I was working hard to get 1.1. He proceeeds to demonstrate 0.5-0.6 seconds consistently, and this from a guy with 15 years on everyone in the class. Swear to God the buzzer is still going off when he breaks a shot. Very humbling.
 
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I train at Blue Ridge Marksmanship in WNC. The instructor there will watch your form, draw stroke, etc but not the target. "If your form is correct, the target will show it."
One day I brought my new "tricked out" Glock with a shiny, new mag-well and I was really gonna burn thru my mag changes. That's the day we spent three hours on injured shooter, one hand mag changes .... from a jam.
Needless to say my "add-ons" exceeded my training that day and humility became my teacher. Kinda hard to dig that mag out of the mag-well with one hand. "Thors Hammer" and a bruised forearm made me a believer in +2 base plates!
Shooting, to me, is like golf. I suck at 11 holes but it's the 7 good ones that keep me coming back.
It is how we respond to failure that makes us better.
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Shooting under a barrricade, stood up and hooked my extra mag on it. Tore off the base plate, sent a nice fountain of 9mm all over the place.

Instructor was having us do quickdraw to get a baseline beep-to-bang time. Tells us under 1 sec is pretty good, I think maybe 2 out of the dozen of us could do that. This is with a concealed gun from shoulder height hands-up-dont-shoot position. I think I was working hard to get 1.1. He proceeeds to demonstrate 0.5-0.6 seconds consistently, and this from a guy with 15 years on everyone in the class. Swear to God the buzzer is still going off when he breaks a shot. Very humbling.

1/2 second draw from concealment? Dang thats faster than Chris Tilley with a race gun from a race holster.
 
Entered a room to do a sweep and search warrant, placed the subject on a kitchen chair officer didn't clear the chair first and she had a knife taped to the chair bottom. The trainer killed one and stabbed another before we knew she even stood up.
 
Under 2 seconds is the standard time that we train for in the Pistol One course. Everyone may not always get it, but 1.99 seconds is under 2 seconds.
An average guy or gal can cover 24 feet in less than two seconds, so my only option was learn to assess a threat from a greater distance or get faster on my draw time.

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We always let new folks see what their raw reaction time to the buzzer is. This is eye opening. Have the shooter point his piece down range. finger on trigger, no safety of any kind engaged. Shoot when the buzzer goes. Best time on our range is .17. Try it, you might be surprised at how long it takes JUST to react to the buzzer.
 
An average guy or gal can cover 24 feet in less than two seconds, so my only option was learn to assess a threat from a greater distance or get faster on my draw time.

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Those are two great thing to train for, but they are far from your only options.

Learning to draw, rotate pistol to target, and fire from the hip can significantly reduce time to first shot. Especially useful if someone is closing to contact ranges and you are still on the x.

Get off the x. Make the enemy reset their OODA loop and react to you, not you react to them.

When you get off the x, do it to your left, enemies right. 91% of the world is right handed/footed. That makes it easier to adjust forward motion left and takes a split second longer to go right. Use that.

As they quickly close into contact distances, forego the draw altogether. Gain space. Quarter off, sidestep, use hard hands to give them a shove and let their momentum do the rest. Or not. Sometimes their momentum does it all for you. You can now stop and have lunch before you draw if you want.

In the real world, people have things in their hands a great many times when trouble presents itself. Use those things as distractions. Throw a drink in their face, a handfull of change at them, etc. Find ways to incorporate distractions into your training.

Don't turn things into a 24' race that you *could* lose. That cost is too high.
Cheat.
Cheat like hell.
I do.
 
I do back flips while I shoot from the hip.

I keed I keed.
 
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So far my training has consisted of an hour with Tony shooting a bunch of guns. I hope to do more, with just my carry gun. I got some good pointers from some guys from the forum one afternoon, too. As far as I know, I didn't do anything too dumb. (Thank God!) Other than that, the guy who did my CC class gave me the basics, and I used to shoot with Dad in the yard decades ago....does any of this count?
The whole experience of carrying a gun is humbling, because I know how dangerous they can be....
 
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Doing some room clearing today. Instructor was hiding in a closet I didn't clear properly clear and "shot me" ...lesson learned.

How about your experiences?

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I only practice drawing from my holster and shooting. Practicing room clearing most likely is fun but it's nothing I would ever intend to do. If someone breaks into my house I'll be securing my wife and myself in a room , most likely our bedroom. Then calling the police and let them do the room clearing. If someone try's to enter our secured room prior to the police arriving all bets are off. Now, drawing from my holster and shot placement is another story. It's what I feel I will need to practice the most so if I'm ever confronted where I have to defend myself I'm not fumbling around.
 
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I only practice drawing from my holster and shooting. Practicing room clearing most likely is fun but it's nothing I would ever intend to do. If someone breaks into my house I'll be securing my wife and myself in a room , most likely our bedroom. Then calling the police and let them do the room clearing. If someone try's to enter our secured room prior to the police arriving all bets are off. Now, drawing from my holster and shot placement is another story. It's what I feel I will need to practice the most so if I'm ever confronted where I have to defend myself I'm not fumbling around.

Exactly my view at this point. If I need to clear a room it is going down like a bad action flick. I'm spraying 5.56 everywhere. Holes everywhere. Hope the dogs run like hell.
 
I only practice drawing from my holster and shooting. Practicing room clearing most likely is fun but it's nothing I would ever intend to do. If someone breaks into my house I'll be securing my wife and myself in a room , most likely our bedroom. Then calling the police and let them do the room clearing. If someone try's to enter our secured room prior to the police arriving all bets are off. Now, drawing from my holster and shot placement is another story. It's what I feel I will need to practice the most so if I'm ever confronted where I have to defend myself I'm not fumbling around.
It was a team setting, not like a "bump in the night" house clearing. - Primarily for hostage extraction.
 
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