I have a bad feeling......need advice

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I have a rifle on another site for sale. I get a few inquires, but this guy contacted me twice. 1st email states he likes it and wants it and asks if I still have it. I reply I do and ask if he's local. Well, here's the reply I got.....

I`m ready to buy it and the state of the Gun is great likewise the price. I wont be able to come make the pickup myself but i have a FFL Dealer which i told i would buy a Gun and he said its OK if i wont be making the pickup myself because i`m on a Business trip(Mining field) till April. He would come with the paperwork so you will fill out the bill of sale transferring ownership so he can also do that when he delivers to me. Would you accept a Bank certified check as payment and after it clears in your bank a local pickup will be made as explained and i`m willing to add an extra $100 to the payment for you to secure the purchase for me till the check arrives. Please get in touch with your name and mailing address to send the check to. Include your phone # as well so I will be able to contact you about the transaction. Thanks

Now, if his FFL is the actual buyer (rifle transfered to the FFL holders name), what happens later is of no concern to me. They can work out the transfer between the two of the between themselves. Correct? But if this guy send me the funds via check, he is paying for it, but not actually buying it because a legal FFL holder is taking possession. As much as I'd like to move this thing, and the extra cash to hold it sounds too good to be true, my sphincter is puckerin in fear.

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sounds sketchy

is the ffl local?

have you spoken to them?

usps money orders are harder to forge.

I might do it if it is a local FFL that knew the actual buyer.

see if the ffl will buy it from you and they take his check.

100:1 on scam though

have them take a picture of himself in the mining field with a current paper and a sign saying "I am not an animal"
 
Wow, leave one minute, and 500 answers. Like that. Actually, right after my post, I emailed him back and told him I'd only sell it to a legal NC resident or FFL holder in a FTF for cash. We'll see. I'm pretty sure I'll not hear form him or them (ATF, FBI or whomever) again.
 
As others have said, it is a scam. It isn't a set-up. There isn't anything illegal about an FFL picking a gun up for someone and transferring it to that person later. This is just another version of a classic scam that is very common on Craigslist, Armslist, etc.
 
Somewhat related, I've done something like this myself. On vacation in Alabama a few years back. Window shopping on Armslist in Greensboro section, I find a rifle I had been looking for. Contacted the seller and informed them of the situation. Be back in a week and asked if they would hold it. They agreed. Ended up finding something comparable in Birmingham, and cancelled the meetup.
 
Just tell him to send the check. See if you can get him to add a zero. I use to collect fake checks. I had 50 or so framed "worth" about $750k. Great conversation piece.

Lost it in the divorce.
 
Just to understand:
1. )Cashiers check sent, funds seem to be available.
2. )Scammer picks up rifle pretending to be FFL.
3. )Scammer cancels cashiers check, funds gone, guns gone, bank gives you a fee for bad check.

Right?
 
Not really worried about it being a scam. If someone sends me a check, I deposit it and wait until it has cleared all hurdles in my bank. AND I wait a few extra days just for shits and giggles. The heart of the question was the legality of it. Guy "A" sends me the funds in his name. Funds clear. Guy "B", a legit FFL holder, accepts it in person from me to HIM (the holder). It would be legal? No?
 
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grungewehr39 said:
I`m ready to buy it and the state of the Gun is great likewise the price. I wont be able to come make the pickup myself but i have a FFL Dealer which i told i would buy a Gun and he said its OK if i wont be making the pickup myself because i`m on a Business trip(Mining field) till April. He would come with the paperwork so you will fill out the bill of sale transferring ownership so he can also do that when he delivers to me. Would you accept a Bank certified check as payment and after it clears in your bank a local pickup will be made as explained and i`m willing to add an extra $100 to the payment for you to secure the purchase for me till the check arrives. Please get in touch with your name and mailing address to send the check to. Include your phone # as well so I will be able to contact you about the transaction. Thanks

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Is the buyer a Nigerian prince?
 
grungewehr39 said:
Somewhat related, I've done something like this myself. On vacation in Alabama a few years back. Window shopping on Armslist in Greensboro section, I find a rifle I had been looking for. Contacted the seller and informed them of the situation. Be back in a week and asked if they would hold it. They agreed. Ended up finding something comparable in Birmingham, and cancelled the meetup.
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That sounds like backing out of a deal you'd agreed to. That crap would get you banned from the BST here. :mad:
 
I'd like to know the site where people offer $100 more than the asking price. The only such person here is @jmccracken1214. :D
 
Tell him you will have it shipped it to his local verified FLL dealer for your asking price plus the 100 dollars once payment clears. Payment method prefered would be USPMO, they can check it at the post office and often cash it on the spot if they have enough funds. This is the correct and legal way.

If he doesn't want to do that, I would suspect a scam.

Is that you Terry Grindle?
 
Had an email come about like that from a camera i had for sale on Craigslist. Break contact and ignore any further younhet from them.
 
Tell him you want $1,000 on top of selling price.:)
 
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How about USPS money order?
 
On some of these scams, they are able to trace your account and routing info so they can come back and empty your account. Letting the check clear is their ticket to what they really wanted, with the side benefit that they also got your item.

On others, the check is fraudulently drawing out of someone’s account, which, once discovered, is charged back to your account. By that time, you are left holding the bag and they have your item.

In neither of these cases are you protected by waiting for the check to clear.
 
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Not really worried about it being a scam. If someone sends me a check, I deposit it and wait until it has cleared all hurdles in my bank. AND I wait a few extra days just for shits and giggles. The heart of the question was the legality of it. Guy "A" sends me the funds in his name. Funds clear. Guy "B", a legit FFL holder, accepts it in person from me to HIM (the holder). It would be legal? No?
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It is a scam, the check will clear as they use some one else's account routing info. Then a week late or so your bank will contact you and tell you the check was on a fraudulent account. It takes them awhile to for everything to come back to your bank as fraudulent. As others have said IT'S A SCAM RUN!!!
 
grungewehr39 said:
I have a rifle on another site for sale. I get a few inquires, but this guy contacted me twice. 1st email states he likes it and wants it and asks if I still have it. I reply I do and ask if he's local. Well, here's the reply I got.....

I`m ready to buy it and the state of the Gun is great likewise the price. I wont be able to come make the pickup myself but i have a FFL Dealer which i told i would buy a Gun and he said its OK if i wont be making the pickup myself because i`m on a Business trip(Mining field) till April. He would come with the paperwork so you will fill out the bill of sale transferring ownership so he can also do that when he delivers to me. Would you accept a Bank certified check as payment and after it clears in your bank a local pickup will be made as explained and i`m willing to add an extra $100 to the payment for you to secure the purchase for me till the check arrives. Please get in touch with your name and mailing address to send the check to. Include your phone # as well so I will be able to contact you about the transaction. Thanks

Now, if his FFL is the actual buyer (rifle transfered to the FFL holders name), what happens later is of no concern to me. They can work out the transfer between the two of the between themselves. Correct? But if this guy send me the funds via check, he is paying for it, but not actually buying it because a legal FFL holder is taking possession. As much as I'd like to move this thing, and the extra cash to hold it sounds too good to be true, my sphincter is puckerin in fear.

thoughts.....
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It’s a scam. I just got the same email for one of my listings.

Anyone getting emails from [email protected] on armslist this is a scam.

@BurnedOutGeek @Brangus or another admin might want to run that email to see if they are on cff.

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