ID my Garand

Discussion in 'Military Surplus - Curios & Relics' started by Friday, Apr 9, 2018.

  1. Friday

    Friday Polite-Knock raid Charter Member Supporting Member

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    Well not mine but Dad's. I just saw it the first time on Saturday.
    I'm not a Garand guy and Dad's extent to knowing about them is "just like the one I carried in Korea".
    God love him....:D
    At 85, he forgets where he left his watch, but still remembers how to strip down and clean a Garand. I guess when that rifle was the only thing between you and thousands of Chinese you remembered how to take care of it.

    It's one of the CMP rifles. The markings I found on it-
    Reciever;
    U.S. Rifle
    Cal.30M1
    Springfield Amory
    2172616

    On the stock;
    Left side of pistol grip- S.A. EMcF, with the Springfield logo next to it.
    Underside of pistol grip- P with a circle around it.

    Paperwork;
    Muzzle reading 1+
    Throat reading 4+
    Rifle Grade RMI Service-SA
    BBL; SA 12/43
    Date 10-11-17

    Those are the only markings I could find on it. I get most of that stuff but not the details. I know it's not a match grade rifle but it's in pretty good shape for a service grade. Stock is in amazingly good condition and all the metal looks good with expected normal patina. Sorry no pics I didn't have a camera.

    I told Dad I knew just where to go to find out some more about his rifle "just like the one he carried in Korea".
    So I come here of course. :)
     
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  2. DLam

    DLam Happy to be here

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    You have a November 1943 receiver. Springfield barrel dated December 1943... may be original barrel, but doubt it. The EMcF cartouche is the Springfield armorer of that period Col. Earl McFarland... his inspection stamp. The circle with P inside is a proof stamp, where the rifle was test fired.

    The muzzle and throat wear numbers indicate a lot of life left in that barrel

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    Djstorm100 Always have a plan Vendor

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    Oil it and keep it in a good place. I love love mine
     
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    Friday Polite-Knock raid Charter Member Supporting Member

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    Awesome. Very good of you Sir thank you.
     
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    Paladin1911 Happy to be here Supporting Member

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    Nice Rifle. When they were cheap I bought one of each manufacturer. That was way back when the DCMP director was in charge of them. About 112.00 each.
     
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    Friday Polite-Knock raid Charter Member Supporting Member

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    It is a cool rifle I gotta admit. Very surprised at how good it looked. All original.
    I think he may have lucked a-bit and got a good one. But he's always had that kind of luck, wins stuff all the time.
    But that's ok. He's one of the last guys left who actually carried one of those things in combat. They should give him one for free.
     
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    mike59 Happy, happy, happy Life Member

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    Curious - what kind of rear sights are on it?
     
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    Original sights for the rifle in that S/N range would be type II lockbars. If the gun is sporting T105E1 sights then they were installed post-WW2
     
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    mike59 Happy, happy, happy Life Member

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    Yeah - Even though the T105e was developed and available (I think) during the war there's little evidence that they were used ever during the war but one of those not 100% known things. I had a '43 SA that was obviously overhauled in 45 as evidenced by a handful of parts and specifically the barrel that was still "in the white" - but all parts were in the 43-45 timeframe ... except the rear sights which were T105e. I had a thread about it trying to figure it out on CMP forums once upon a time and general consensus was they would have been changed post war. Who knows, CMP could have done it prior to shipping to me if they had some reason to. I thought about changing them but decided that the rifle was "historically" correct so I left them as they were. It was my favorite Garand - my "been there, done that" Garand that really spoke to me and was fun as all get out to shoot and just made me smile every time I did.
     

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