Identifying triggers in an AR (Giessele)

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I bought a complete lower recently and the dude installed some Giessele trigger. If I post a photo, is there a way to identify it? I'm well versed in AK triggers, but most brands only have one so it's pretty easy to determine what's what aside from surplus triggers and even those I can determine some.

Giessele OTOH seems to make a crapload so I have no idea what it is, but I like it. The lower was already a good price with the other stuff he had on there so I didn't even bother to ask what it was TBH.

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IrishCannon said:
I bought a complete lower recently and the dude installed some Giessele trigger. If I post a photo, is there a way to identify it? I'm well versed in AK triggers, but most brands only have one so it's pretty easy to determine what's what aside from surplus triggers and even those I can determine some.

Giessele OTOH seems to make a crapload so I have no idea what it is, but I like it. The lower was already a good price with the other stuff he had on there so I didn't even bother to ask what it was TBH.

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I know certain "value" or OEM type models will use clips for retention rather then the normal system of notches and springs.

Other then that they seem to have markings on the trigger itself, but may be hard to see while installed.
 
It's G marked, but the trigger itself is completely flat. I haven't taken it out of the lower yet.

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Desolo said:
That narrows things down, it is a "super dynamic" of some variety.

Edit: either a SD-E, SD-C, Or SD-3G.
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Which can be further narrowed down by testing the break. Is the trigger a two-stage, or a single-stage? If it's a single-stage, it's the SD-3G. If it's a two-stage, it's either the SD-E or the SD-C. The SD-E has a 1lb lighter weight pull on it than the SD-C does.
 
IrishCannon said:
Never expected this to be a $250 trigger. It's nice...but ain't that insane. Makes this deal I got even better though.

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It's all relative. Some people expect the trigger to make them a better shot or shoot magical 1/" groups at a million yards or something. But, it will definitely outlast you.
 
IrishCannon said:
Never expected this to be a $250 trigger. It's nice...but ain't that insane. Makes this deal I got even better though.

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Agree with @Chuckman and a lot of folks put those super high end triggers in everything regardless of purpose.
I can only speak for me and my uses, but I put a SSA-E in my Grendel and a G2S in my semi precision AR hunter.
Keeping the theory of diminishing returns in mind, my duty type rifles and my SBRs that dont necessarily benefit greatly from the nuances of a high end trigger get the ACT by ALG. Great bang for the buck trigger.
 
draco88 said:
Agree with @Chuckman and a lot of folks put those super high end triggers in everything regardless of purpose.
I can only speak for me and my uses, but I put a SSA-E in my Grendel and a G2S in my semi precision AR hunter.
Keeping the theory of diminishing returns in mind, my duty type rifles and my SBRs that dont necessarily benefit greatly from the nuances of a high end trigger get the ACT by ALG. Great bang for the buck trigger.
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We do something similar here. ACT is plenty good for a duty rifle. Plus, my grab and go guns are not the ones I want the lightest trigger on. A couple extra pounds of trigger pull can be handy when you are wearing gloves, are kicking around, etc.
 
Gnash.Hyena said:
Which can be further narrowed down by testing the break. Is the trigger a two-stage, or a single-stage? If it's a single-stage, it's the SD-3G. If it's a two-stage, it's either the SD-E or the SD-C. The SD-E has a 1lb lighter weight pull on it than the SD-C does.
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I believe the SD3G is a two stage trigger, like most G's.


edit: SSP is the single, no?
 
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NKD said:
I believe the SD3G is a two stage trigger, like most G's.
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Sort of. To quote Geissele, "the SD-3G has a shortened pull length and a lightning-quick reset to give it a unique, hybrid trigger pull that is a cross between a traditional two-stage and single-stage trigger while still retaining the safety and robustness of a two-stage combat trigger." Case in point, it doesn't have the defined wall and clean break that their definitely two-stage triggers have.
 
Gnash.Hyena said:
Sort of. To quote Geissele, "the SD-3G has a shortened pull length and a lightning-quick reset to give it a unique, hybrid trigger pull that is a cross between a traditional two-stage and single-stage trigger while still retaining the safety and robustness of a two-stage combat trigger." Case in point, it doesn't have the defined wall and clean break that their definitely two-stage triggers have.
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It's a two stage trigger like an AR Gold.

They can call it what they want I guess. Just my opinion.
 
Gnash.Hyena said:
Okay. It's still a valid way to tell the SD3G from the SD-E and SD-C. The E and C have a much cleaner and more precise break than the 3G does.
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I am probably splitting hairs, but I feel 2-stage is more accurate. As I said just my opinion.

Glass rod break vs carrot break I've heard it described.
 
NKD said:
I am probably splitting hairs, but I feel 2-stage is more accurate. As I said just my opinion.

Glass rod break vs carrot break I've heard it described.
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I'm just trying to help the guy identify the trigger, not argue semantics. The SD3G is a weird trigger with an unusual hybrid design that breaks from the norm, so when someone asks me if I run a single or two stage trigger, I just say "I run a Geissele Super Dynamic Three Gun Trigger" and let them decide for themselves what that means. The break on the SD3G to me feels more like a rolling break than a glass rod break. Like two rollers sliding over each other with the gun firing somewhere in the process, more so than any sort of defined wall.
 
Gnash.Hyena said:
I'm just trying to help the guy identify the trigger, not argue semantics. The SD3G is a weird trigger with an unusual hybrid design that breaks from the norm, so when someone asks me if I run a single or two stage trigger, I just say "I run a Geissele Super Dynamic Three Gun Trigger" and let them decide for themselves what that means. The break on the SD3G to me feels more like a rolling break than a glass rod break. Like two rollers sliding over each other with the gun firing somewhere in the process, more so than any sort of defined wall.
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"Rolling break" is a good description for sure. I can't think of any SS I have used that feel like this.

I am not trying to argue, only stating my personal thoughts based on personal experience as I have owned two of those. And a whole bunch of others. Not trying to disparage Geisele, as I think they are decent enough triggers. I do not think anything you have posted is "false".

Edit: I am not trying to argue a semantic point, but rather a technical one.
 
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Gnash.Hyena said:
I'm just trying to help the guy identify the trigger, not argue semantics. The SD3G is a weird trigger with an unusual hybrid design that breaks from the norm, so when someone asks me if I run a single or two stage trigger, I just say "I run a Geissele Super Dynamic Three Gun Trigger" and let them decide for themselves what that means. The break on the SD3G to me feels more like a rolling break than a glass rod break. Like two rollers sliding over each other with the gun firing somewhere in the process, more so than any sort of defined wall.
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Like a rolling trigger on a 1911, perhaps?
 
Fred said:
If it has a rolling trigger instead of a clean break, it's not a 1911 any more : ).
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Lol I get what you mean, but Id seen reference to a "pull through" break that they called a rolling trigger for some sort of match use on a 1911, but have no experience with such a thing personally.

Thought it was an interesting thought
 
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