Illegal Alien Gang Member cites 2A Rights, well its worked before

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Javier Perez, a 28-year-old illegal alien from Mexico, is claiming that he has Second Amendment rights under the U.S. Constitution and therefore is being unfairly charged with possession of a gun.

Perez and his attorney said he has a Second Amendment right to carry a gun even though he is in the U.S. illegally, telling the New York Daily News:

“The Framers were clear: If they meant citizens, they would have said citizens. But they didn’t,” his defense lawyer, Samuel Jacobson, argued in Brooklyn federal court. “There is no suggestion that there was a concept of ‘illegal alien’ and no suggestion that if you were from a foreign country, you couldn’t bear arms.”

Brooklyn federal prosecutors are furious the case has been allowed to move forward. They argue that Perez has zero Second Amendment rights because he came to the U.S. illegally.

https://www.breitbart.com/big-gover...-gun-on-sidewalk-claims-2nd-amendment-rights/

Citing 2A Rights has been recently successful

He brought a semi-automatic rifle to a rumored KKK rally. Here’s why he got off.

Durham


A man arrested for bringing a semi-automatic rifle to a KKK counterprotest last summer had his case dismissed Thursday when a judge ruled the charge was unconstitutional.

Dwayne Dixon faced the misdemeanor after he brought the rifle to downtown Durham Aug. 18 amid rumors of a white supremacist rally that never materialized.

District Court Judge James T. Hill dismissed the charge after Dixon’s attorney, Scott Holmes, argued the law was overly broad and infringed upon the the First and Second Amendments rights to assemble and to bear arms.


Read more here: https://www.heraldsun.com/news/local/crime/article199048869.html#storylink=cpy
 
I gotta say I agree with the premise. Now he did fire the gun so there should be a charge. And he is here illegally so he should be charged for that. IMO if we managed our borders and immigration correctly then someone that was here on a student or work visa should be able to own a firearm even if they are not citizens. But if they break other laws they should be punished and lose whatever legal status they have since they weren't being a good guest.
 
They live in such a disjointed world do they even realize what they are saying? This is priceless. Either she is one o the rare NY conservatives or she just put her liberal card at risk. She's smart enough to have her FB page locked down so can't say for sure.

“Those who don’t have legal status here have an interest in defying law enforcement. They have an interest in not maintaining a stable residence or registering a firearm,” [Assistant U.S. Attorney Tanya Hajjar] argued in court."
 
Just a thought here...

If our illegal friend somehow manages to win 2A protection (ignoring the illegal gun possession and firing of same gun), what other constitutional rights will he be entitled to or set precedent to gain more constitutional rights? Will he be able to vote legally some day as an illegal?

I'm not sure I want him to win his case. Winning means that he and X million more illegals could start gaining residency status through a bastardized translation of the Constitution by liberal justices.

Am I thinking straight? Or did the sun fry my brain while working outside this afternoon?
 
Just gloss over the fact that the gun is illegal in NYC and he fired it in the city.

I gotta say I agree with the premise. Now he did fire the gun so there should be a charge. And he is here illegally so he should be charged for that. IMO if we managed our borders and immigration correctly then someone that was here on a student or work visa should be able to own a firearm even if they are not citizens. But if they break other laws they should be punished and lose whatever legal status they have since they weren't being a good guest.

Yes there is a Whole Lotta Wrong here, however NY City is (?) a Sanctuary protection area for illegals.

But hey, now the liberals will have to defend the second.

Yup,,
So NY, NY being a Bastion of Freedom for these illegals ( granted by local politicians ) and barring other concerns , going to the root argument that his 2A Rights are being violated, I find the argument interesting as the Liberals are coming "Full - Circle" to defend someone that should not be here in the first place using the 2A.
Maybe Javier purchased his piece at "DickS."
Go Figure,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 
No thanks.
Deport what's here, enforce the border and stop playing nanny with them.

Yup, well there's a Whole lotta "One Way" tickets to get.
Sanctuary-Cities-Still-012517.png


Map 1: Sanctuary Cities, Counties, and States
Updated May 30, 2018
The sanctuary jurisdictions are listed below. These cities, counties, and states have laws, ordinances, regulations, resolutions, policies, or other practices that obstruct immigration enforcement and shield criminals from ICE — either by refusing to or prohibiting agencies from complying with ICE detainers, imposing unreasonable conditions on detainer acceptance, denying ICE access to interview incarcerated aliens, or otherwise impeding communication or information exchanges between their personnel and federal immigration officers.


https://cis.org/Map-Sanctuary-Cities-Counties-and-States
 
We should just Annex Mexico making them the 51st State , give them seats in Congress and TAX the Piss out of them, like the rest of us.
Problem solved.

Do you really want to share a country with the people down there? Have you seen what goes on down there, and the wonderful society they have built? There is a reason why people are flowing North not South.
 
I gotta say I agree with the premise. Now he did fire the gun so there should be a charge. And he is here illegally so he should be charged for that. IMO if we managed our borders and immigration correctly then someone that was here on a student or work visa should be able to own a firearm even if they are not citizens. But if they break other laws they should be punished and lose whatever legal status they have since they weren't being a good guest.
I find myself agreeing with CZ.

The right to keep & bear arms is a natural right; the BoR/Constitution just acknowledges and defers to it.

This DOES NOT mean I find it desireable to have known criminals in unfettered possession of guns, so cool your jets, Troll Army SpokesOgres! Being here illegally means he's a known criminal. Firing the gun in the city / in violation of legal ordinances makes him a known criminal. If his identity is fake & based on stolen data, he's a known criminal. That's enough to take away his firearm and his freedom, charge & convict him, and deport him.

As for the legal precedent, I think anything that limits the ability to deny people acces to firearms is probably a good thing. If the 2A applies to illegals in NY, well, it sure as Hades applies to legal citizens as well!
 
Do you really want to share a country with the people down there? Have you seen what goes on down there, and the wonderful society they have built? There is a reason why people are flowing North not South.
LMAO,
Nope , no more than I want to reside in or near Chicago, Detroit, most or all of Cali, and there are more "No Go Zones."


If the 2A applies to illegals in NY, well, it sure as Hades applies to legal citizens as well!
Bingo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
We should just Annex Mexico making them the 51st State , give them seats in Congress and TAX the Piss out of them, like the rest of us.
Problem solved.
hard. pass. on. this.

Theyre poor as hell, why they want to come here, what tax money?
Then think of the new 'citizens' who will be on the social hammock we've got here.
 
Yup, well there's a Whole lotta "One Way" tickets to get.
Sanctuary-Cities-Still-012517.png


Map 1: Sanctuary Cities, Counties, and States
Updated May 30, 2018
The sanctuary jurisdictions are listed below. These cities, counties, and states have laws, ordinances, regulations, resolutions, policies, or other practices that obstruct immigration enforcement and shield criminals from ICE — either by refusing to or prohibiting agencies from complying with ICE detainers, imposing unreasonable conditions on detainer acceptance, denying ICE access to interview incarcerated aliens, or otherwise impeding communication or information exchanges between their personnel and federal immigration officers.


https://cis.org/Map-Sanctuary-Cities-Counties-and-States
We don’t need plane tickets.

Cattle cars on a train would do.
 
Just a thought here...

If our illegal friend somehow manages to win 2A protection (ignoring the illegal gun possession and firing of same gun), what other constitutional rights will he be entitled to or set precedent to gain more constitutional rights? Will he be able to vote legally some day as an illegal?

I'm not sure I want him to win his case. Winning means that he and X million more illegals could start gaining residency status through a bastardized translation of the Constitution by liberal justices.

Am I thinking straight? Or did the sun fry my brain while working outside this afternoon?

Going off on a tangent here. Granting the ability to vote to a person was entirely a state decision until the abolition of slavery and passage of the 15th amendment. Before that each state had different rules, some requiring land ownership, some based on color, etc and they changed over time. The 15th requires that no citizen be denied the ability to vote, but it didn’t eliminate the states’ right in other regards, so for example if CA wants to allow illegals to vote I don’t think there is a basis to stop them.
 
Doubt this will cause a stir at all. They'll convict him and then release him (because they're a sanctuary city and don't cooperate with ICE) and that's the end of the story. Illegals don't get any more 2A rights than citizens.
 
“Those who don’t have legal status here have an interest in defying law enforcement. They have an interest in not maintaining a stable residence or registering a firearm,” [Assistant U.S. Attorney Tanya Hajjar] argued in court."

I would argue that 2 out of those 3 should be a shared interest with those who have a legal status in this Republic of ours.

Just a thought here...

If our illegal friend somehow manages to win 2A protection (ignoring the illegal gun possession and firing of same gun), what other constitutional rights will he be entitled to or set precedent to gain more constitutional rights? Will he be able to vote legally some day as an illegal?

None of us have Constitutional Rights. That vellum or parchment document doesn't give us Rights. It acknowledges Rights that existed prior to the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, hell, these United States.

As @Windini said, these Rights are natural. They are inalienable from your person.

All the Constitution and Bill of Rights do is limit the moral and just power of government to infringe upon them.

That's it.

They are negative Rights documents....they do not say what the People can do, but what the government cannot do.

We, the People have forgotten that.

This guy is guilty of several crimes; but charging him with the possession of Arms does infringe upon his natural and inalienable Right to defense, which the Second Amendment protects.
 
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Yup, well there's a Whole lotta "One Way" tickets to get.
Sanctuary-Cities-Still-012517.png


Map 1: Sanctuary Cities, Counties, and States
Updated May 30, 2018
The sanctuary jurisdictions are listed below. These cities, counties, and states have laws, ordinances, regulations, resolutions, policies, or other practices that obstruct immigration enforcement and shield criminals from ICE — either by refusing to or prohibiting agencies from complying with ICE detainers, imposing unreasonable conditions on detainer acceptance, denying ICE access to interview incarcerated aliens, or otherwise impeding communication or information exchanges between their personnel and federal immigration officers.


https://cis.org/Map-Sanctuary-Cities-Counties-and-States
They need to add a pin to Orange Co. NC...

https://www.heraldsun.com/news/local/article215486015.html
 
I would argue that 2 out of those 3 should be a shared interest with those who have a legal status in this Republic of ours.

My point was she makes the case for a border wall and tighter border security right there, whether she knows it or she meant to. You can't make a statement like that in a vacuum where it only applies to this one person. Doesn't work like that.

Personally, if you break the law to get here I'm not really worried about extending rights to you. Natural or not, at some point the Gov has to place standards on how they are applied, recognized, etc. And the standard of being here legally to apply them is actually fine with me. Open borders and free citizenship usually makes the reasons for wanting it and the citizenship itself worthless. There's no reason to conform if you are never asked to conform. And the idea that America is a melting pot is based on folks coming here to conform to our society, not build their own separate one within the borders and on the tax payer dime.
 
I would argue that 2 out of those 3 should be a shared interest with those who have a legal status in this Republic of ours.



None of us have Constitutional Rights. That vellum or parchment document doesn't give us Rights. It acknowledges Rights that existed prior to the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, hell, these United States.

As @Windini said, these Rights are natural. They are inalienable from your person.

All the Constitution and Bill of Rights do is limit the moral and just power of government to infringe upon them.

That's it.

They are negative Rights documents....they do not say what the People can do, but what the government cannot do.

We, the People have forgotten that.

This guy is guilty of several crimes; but charging him with the possession of Arms does infringe upon his natural and inalienable Right to defense, which the Second Amendment protects.
He has no rights, deport his illegal azz.
 
I would argue that 2 out of those 3 should be a shared interest with those who have a legal status in this Republic of ours.



None of us have Constitutional Rights. That vellum or parchment document doesn't give us Rights. It acknowledges Rights that existed prior to the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, hell, these United States.

As @Windini said, these Rights are natural. They are inalienable from your person.

All the Constitution and Bill of Rights do is limit the moral and just power of government to infringe upon them.

That's it.

They are negative Rights documents....they do not say what the People can do, but what the government cannot do.

We, the People have forgotten that.

This guy is guilty of several crimes; but charging him with the possession of Arms does infringe upon his natural and inalienable Right to defense, which the Second Amendment protects.


Fair points. My presentation was off, but intent was pointed in the right direction.

Thanks for the correction to my post. I appreciate it.
 
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He has no rights, deport his illegal azz.

I respectfully disagree. The self-evident truths are all men are Created equal, endowed by God with certain Rights inalienable from their person. Life, Liberty, you know the rest.

If you believe that creedle statement of the American Republic, then that's final. It doesn't have exceptions, caveats, or restrictions.

Either all Men are born Free by the Grace of God or none are.

My point was she makes the case for a border wall and tighter border security right there, whether she knows it or she meant to. You can't make a statement like that in a vacuum where it only applies to this one person. Doesn't work like that.

Personally, if you break the law to get here I'm not really worried about extending rights to you. Natural or not, at some point the Gov has to place standards on how they are applied, recognized, etc. And the standard of being here legally to apply them is actually fine with me. Open borders and free citizenship usually makes the reasons for wanting it and the citizenship itself worthless. There's no reason to conform if you are never asked to conform. And the idea that America is a melting pot is based on folks coming here to conform to our society, not build their own separate one within the borders and on the tax payer dime.

Granted - but what you advocate is not Rights, but State privileges. Things the government says you're allowed to do so long as you do what the government deems acceptable.

And I agree with the melting pot argument - that ideally, people coming here want to be Americans and not self-segregate.

But We, the People don't even hold the same creedle beliefs and principles upon which the Republic was founded in any particular esteem, and have lost any semblance of being a melting pot of the assembled Citizenry. Hell, the Union and the Confederacy had more in common socially, politically, and culturally than we have now.

Why apply such a demand on people coming here, illegal or otherwise, when We, the People won't even dream of conforming to it ourselves?
 
I respectfully disagree. The self-evident truths are all men are Created equal, endowed by God with certain Rights inalienable from their person. Life, Liberty, you know the rest.

If you believe that creedle statement of the American Republic, then that's final. It doesn't have exceptions, caveats, or restrictions.

Either all Men are born Free by the Grace of God or none are.



Granted - but what you advocate is not Rights, but State privileges. Things the government says you're allowed to do so long as you do what the government deems acceptable.

And I agree with the melting pot argument - that ideally, people coming here want to be Americans and not self-segregate.

But We, the People don't even hold the same creedle beliefs and principles upon which the Republic was founded in any particular esteem, and have lost any semblance of being a melting pot of the assembled Citizenry. Hell, the Union and the Confederacy had more in common socially, politically, and culturally than we have now.

Why apply such a demand on people coming here, illegal or otherwise, when We, the People won't even dream of conforming to it ourselves?


I have to disagree with your first point, the Constitution applies to citizens of the United States and those that are here legally, in my opinion anyone that is here illegally has very limited rights, such as someone who is incarcerated, if that.
 
I have to disagree with your first point, the Constitution applies to citizens of the United States and those that are here legally, in my opinion anyone that is here illegally has very limited rights, such as someone who is incarcerated, if that.

So from where do your Rights come, in your estimation? The Constitution?
 
So from where do your Rights come, in your estimation? The Constitution?


It isn’t an issue of where my rights come from, this is an issue of who’s rights are protected by the Constitution.

He’s an illegal alien breaking the law just by being here so he has no claim to the same protections that any citizen or resident alien enjoy, once he becomes a citizen or resident alien then he is granted the same protection of those rights, again, in my opinion.
 
I respectfully disagree. The self-evident truths are all men are Created equal, endowed by God with certain Rights inalienable from their person. Life, Liberty, you know the rest.

If you believe that creedle statement of the American Republic, then that's final. It doesn't have exceptions, caveats, or restrictions.

Either all Men are born Free by the Grace of God or none are.



Granted - but what you advocate is not Rights, but State privileges. Things the government says you're allowed to do so long as you do what the government deems acceptable.

And I agree with the melting pot argument - that ideally, people coming here want to be Americans and not self-segregate.

But We, the People don't even hold the same creedle beliefs and principles upon which the Republic was founded in any particular esteem, and have lost any semblance of being a melting pot of the assembled Citizenry. Hell, the Union and the Confederacy had more in common socially, politically, and culturally than we have now.

Why apply such a demand on people coming here, illegal or otherwise, when We, the People won't even dream of conforming to it ourselves?


I’m glad for you but its yours to be glad with, I’ll pass.
 
It isn’t an issue of where my rights come from, this is an issue of who’s rights are protected by the Constitution.

He’s an illegal alien breaking the law just by being here so he has no claim to the same protections that any citizen or resident alien enjoy, once he becomes a citizen or resident alien then he is granted the same protection of those rights, again, in my opinion.

But it is an issue of where Rights come from. That is the entirety of the issue.

Does he have the same Rights as you and I, or doesn’t he?
 
But it is an issue of where Rights come from. That is the entirety of the issue.

Does he have the same Rights as you and I, or doesn’t he?

He has the same protection of human rights, not Constitutional rights, if everyone that sets foot in the US is automatically granted the same constitutional rights as citizens and legal resident aliens then what is the point of making people even bother to become citizens?
 
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He has the same protection of human rights, not Constitutional rights, if everyone that sets foot in the US is automatically granted the same constitutional rights as citizens and legal resident aliens then what is the point of making people even bother to become citizens?

So your argument is that human Rights and Constituional Rights are different? That one set come as a result of a person’s humanity and the other set are given by the government to the People of these United States?

EDIT: I will answer your question regarding Citizenship- I am simply searching for the line you’ve drawn in the distinction between God-given and man-given Rights. Also, please bear with me, I have jury duty this week and will be paying close attention to those proceedings and only checking the phone at various recesses.
 
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There is an old expression about your right to swing your fist ends at my nose. By virtue of coming here uninvited, through non approved means, with the intent to rob the people of their productivity and the rewards of their efforts (and if you’re honest you will see that they’re thrives) they’ve violated the rights of those who are here justly.

I would be fine with taking this “migrant” trash and simply executing it or better yet, put it in a labor camp and make it work to repay that which it is stealing from the citizenry. When that ability for a “better life” goes away , so will these undesirables.

Consider for a moment what would happen if you or I tried to do what they’re doing to us in most countries in this world. A quick death would be humane by comparison.
 
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So your argument is that human Rights and Constituional Rights are different? That one set come as a result of a person’s humanity and the other set are given by the government to the People of these United States?

EDIT: I will answer your question regarding Citizenship- I am simply searching for the line you’ve drawn in the distinction between God-given and man-given Rights. Also, please bear with me, I have jury duty this week and will be paying close attention to those proceedings and only checking the phone at various recesses.


My Opinion has not changed and I do not understand how much more clear I can be, Constitutional rights are protected by law for citizens and people here legally, human rights are protected by law to everyone regardless of legal status.

God given rights or not, an illegal alien doesn’t get the same protection of certain rights, he may have the exact same rights or have a million more God given rights than every single American citizen does, his country can protect those rights because our country does not.
 
There is an old expression about your right to swing your fist ends at my nose. By virtue of coming here uninvited, through non approved means, with the intent to rob the people of their productivity and the rewards of their efforts (and if you’re honest you will see that they’re thrives) they’ve violated the rights of those who are here justly.

I would be fine with taking this “migrant” trash and simply executing it or better yet, put it in a labor camp and make it work to repay that which it is stealing from the citizenry. When that ability for a “better life” goes away , so will these undesirables.

Let me first make it absolutely clear I am not in favor of limitless immigration or open borders. Far from it.

However, I would argue that the illegal immigrant did not violate any of our Rights by crossing an agreed-upon line on a map. He or she did not rob from your paycheck, or steal your job, take your food or your doctor’s appointment.

Now, the United States government - the one that’s there to supposedly protect the Rights of American Citizens in @Tarowah ‘s estimation, does in fact rob from your paycheck and then give the proceeds from that theft to various people, good and bad, those with legal status and those without.

The United States government - through domestic and foreign policies outside its Constitutional authority- does cause jobs to disappear here and be transferred overseas.

The United States government, through environmental policy that is outside its Constitutional authority - takes food that could be eaten and instead subsidized its use in fuel - with more money stolen from your paycheck.

The United States government decided what kind of health insurance you are allowed to have, in many cases how much it would cost - and either subsidize others to get it with money the government robbed from you - or mandate your premiums higher to cover the spread.

In short - the migrant, illegal or otherwise, is not the culpable party when it comes to all the entitlement spending that they receive. The government, bureaucrats and politicians who created, sustain, and administer the programs are.

I think your anger, while justified, is misplaced.

Consider for a moment what would happen if you or I tried to do what they’re doing to us in most countries in this world. A quick death would be humane by comparison.

That, sir, is American exceptionalism, and the very argument Jefferson made in 1826, on the 50th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. That the principles laid down at America's birth, however flawed in execution, would be a rebuke to reappearing tyranny.

Yes, they broke the law. But five of the first ten Amendments to the Constitution - fully half of the Bill of Rights, deals specifically with safeguarding the Rights of those accused of breaking the law, insulating them from government abuse of power rather than exposing them to greater hazard from it.

It is my opinion this was done deliberately and on purpose, as justifying the willful violation of any person's Rights has always led to that same justification being levied against everyone's Rights.

My Opinion has not changed and I do not understand how much more clear I can be, Constitutional rights are protected by law for citizens and people here legally, human rights are protected by law to everyone regardless of legal status.

God given rights or not, an illegal alien doesn’t get the same protection of certain rights, he may have the exact same rights or have a million more God given rights than every single American citizen does, his country can protect those rights because our country does not.

So are you arguing that all men may be equal, with the same God-given Rights, but that unless mortal men write down and vote on the right words, it is moral and just for governments to infringe or violate those Rights based on Citizenship?
 
So are you arguing that all men may be equal, with the same God-given Rights, but that unless mortal men write down and vote on the right words, it is moral and just for governments to infringe or violate those Rights based on Citizenship?

To a certain degree yes and very much so, some men believe that it is their God given right to marry and have sex with 8 year old girls, but we don’t allow that even though it is what they consider their “God Given right” to life liberty and the Pursuit of happiness.

So there are and always will be limits set and enforced by man as to what God given rights are protected and those that are not, and yes I am fine with it because while it isn’t perfect it is the best we have.
 
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My Opinion has not changed and I do not understand how much more clear I can be, Constitutional rights are protected by law for citizens and people here legally, human rights are protected by law to everyone regardless of legal status.

God given rights or not, an illegal alien doesn’t get the same protection of certain rights, he may have the exact same rights or have a million more God given rights than every single American citizen does, his country can protect those rights because our country does not.

Throw my two worthless zinc cents in here...agree or not, the entire case of illegal aliens being covered by and protected by the Constitution has been settled law for 129 years and rests on one word: "person." It is the word "person" that connects the dots of "due process" and "equal protection" in the 14th Amendment (Yick Wo v. Hopkins (1886), Wong Win v. United States (1896), Almeida-Sanchez v. United States (1973)) .

More recently, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Zadvydas v. Davis (2001) that "due process" of the 14th Amendment applies to all aliens in the United States whose presence maybe or is "unlawful, involuntary or transitory."

So...while aliens, legal and illegal, are afforded constitutional "protections" in criminal and civil affairs within our so called justice system, they do not have most "rights" incurred with U.S. citizenship nor especially any of the responsibilities...at least not yet, as there are no guarantees what the gang of nine will decide in the future....and that is why this case is worrisome: FORM 4473 is very clear that an alien, illegally or unlawfully in the US, is prohibited from purchasing or receiving a firearm...this case should not have moved forward at all.


I believe SPM has made clear...the BOR does not grant citizens (or aliens) "rights"...it places restrictions on the government. From the preamble to the BOR...spells it out without a doubt..."...in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added..."
 
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You want to give these “fill in the blank” individuals rights in your little part of the world you go ahead but in my very limited section they get what rabid animals deserve.

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You want to give these “fill in the blank” individuals rights in your little part of the world you go ahead but in my very limited section they get what rabid animals deserve.

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What's with the guy second from the left? Someone needs to make a good meme with that picture. Dude is saying, oh shit, here we go again or something. Probably something worse.
 
What's with the guy second from the left? Someone needs to make a good meme with that picture. Dude is saying, oh shit, here we go again or something. Probably something worse.

He’s saying “crap it was me that was in charge of the ammo”.
 
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Just a thought here...

If our illegal friend somehow manages to win 2A protection (ignoring the illegal gun possession and firing of same gun), what other constitutional rights will he be entitled to or set precedent to gain more constitutional rights? Will he be able to vote legally some day as an illegal?

I'm not sure I want him to win his case. Winning means that he and X million more illegals could start gaining residency status through a bastardized translation of the Constitution by liberal justices.

Am I thinking straight? Or did the sun fry my brain while working outside this afternoon?

There imho right to vote in the constitution. They just may not disallow it based on gender race age etc. They could for instance say only people who have ever worked at a Wal-Mart may vote, and that would be technically legal, as they don't discriminate on any of those fronts.
 
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