Haven't used these shoes, or this site, so I make no promises. But it's a pretty solid deal ($68 shipped) so I went in on the drop. I know a lot of guys are wearing this brand's various trail runners for USPSA guessing 3 gunners would have a use as well. If anyone is interested http://dro.ps/b/aNnUkUT/l The site is Massdrop, I think you have to be signed in to see pricing, it is basically a group buy site, I haven't used it before, just perused, be aware it is not buy now shipping tomorrow type of deal. Full disclosure: as with many of these things if you use the above link to create an account your first purchase is supposed to earn me some type of reward toward future purchases, going direct to the site and creating an account will let you see the same offers.