Joker ?

Sucked

If there were a way for me to get the 2 hours and 2 minutes back I would still never use it to watch that pos again
I saw it last night and actually really enjoyed it.

This review kinda urged me to watch it. I'd recommend reading it and you may perceive what you saw as a little different. It's important to know who the film came from in this particular case.

https://www.breitbart.com/entertain...cas-bitter-jealous-violent-fascist-woketards/

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‘Joker’ Review: Todd Phillips Blasts America’s Bitter, Jealous, Violent, Fascist Woketards

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“Uh, Duh… Hey, der, if you do anything wrong in your life, and I find out about it, I’m going to try take everything away from. I don’t care what I find out. It could be today, tomorrow, fifteen, twenty years from now — If I find out, you’re…duh…finished.”

“Who is that?” comedian Dave Chappelle asked in his latest Netflix special. “That’s you! That’s what the audience sounds like to me!”

Watching a Thursday matinee of director and co-writer Todd Phillips’ Joker, I couldn’t help but sense that the movie was asking this same question… and returning with the same answer.

Who are Joker’s mindless followers? Who are these maladjusted malcontents, these adult losers who live with their mothers; these useless idiots who exist in literal garbage and keep voting for the same politicians to run their Gotham City? Who are these crybabies who worship a murderer, these nihilists who hold RESIST signs, who scream KILL THE RICH!, who hate cops, who “don’t believe in anything,” who think something’s wrong with society because they’re not “happy all the time”? Who cover their faces with masks so they can riot and go wilding under the pretense this criminal and cowardly behavior is an act of virtue?

“Who is that?” Phillips asks. “That’s you! That’s what you in the audience look and sound like to me!”

Imagine you’re Todd Phillips: You’re 48-years old, and for 20 of those years you devoted yourself to producing one box office comedy hit after another … and now all of that, everything that defined your work and passion, has been declared “problematic” by nobodies; by losers whose only skill is tweeting out their mindless cancellation requests: These all white, male, heterosexual bro comedies are problematic.

Imagine you’re Todd Phillips, and for the last 20 years you’ve sweated blood, risked much, and faced countless setbacks and failures in pursuit of a hard-earned success in one of the most difficult businesses to succeed in; and now, because of your success and the wealth that comes with it, you are “problematic” — as in, We need to occupy and take everything away from problematic rich people.

Imagine you’re Todd Phillips, a white heterosexual male under constant attack just for being a white heterosexual male — as in, White heterosexual males are problematic, especially rich ones who make bro comedies.

Hey, art is subjective, and I went into this thing assuming it would be a tribute of sorts to Martin Scorsese’s Taxi Driver (1976) and King of Comedy (1982), a new approach to comic book fare — you know, that kind of thing.

But I saw what I saw, and what I saw is this…

An artist who turned his legitimate frustrations with the Antifa-Occupy-Black Lives Matter-Resistance crybabies, these anarchist-fascists who seek to marginalize men like Todd Phillips for who he is, punish him for his success, and then censor his art. I think Phillips took all of that and turned it into his muse, not only to create the stunning Joker, but to reinvent himself as an artist.

“Joker is you!” Phillips is saying. “Joker is the godless god you spoiled losers worship; a sociopath who believes in nothing, who wants to burn down society because he’s not happy all the time — your leader is Madness, Anarchy, Intolerance, Jealousy, Envy, Bigotry, and Hate.”


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I saw it last night and actually really enjoyed it.

This review kinda urged me to watch it. I'd recommend reading it and you may perceive what you saw as a little different. It's important to know who the film came from in this particular case.

https://www.breitbart.com/entertain...cas-bitter-jealous-violent-fascist-woketards/

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This quote is absolutely true

Joker is a monster movie, an October movie, a slow burn of tension and dread with no relief, not even a moment of caped crusader-style catharsis.
 
Bought the first 2 tickets for the first performance...it would take me a while to come up with the word to tell you how bad it was. Just 2 folks opinion.
 
What was it that yall didnt like about it?

The DC movies, as a whole, arent very good, in my opinion.
They get star power, but the movies are boring and long (that said, the Christopher Nolan/Bale Batman movies were great (imo))
 
What was it that yall didnt like about it?

The DC movies, as a whole, arent very good, in my opinion.
They get star power, but the movies are boring and long (that said, the Christopher Nolan/Bale Batman movies were great (imo))
Exactly how I feel!

I hate superhero movies. Absolutely hate them...except the recent Batman movies with Christian Bale.

I told my wife I wanted to see Joker. She was like "you don't like those types of movies." I said, "it's not a superhero movie. Batman isn't even in it."

She saw it with me. She didn't like it as much as I did; she said, "I expected it to be darker and deal with more severe mental health issues."


WTF lady? How dark is your mind?!

She said it was still "too cartooney."

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Bought the first 2 tickets for the first performance...it would take me a while to come up with the word to tell you how bad it was. Just 2 folks opinion.
And that's fine, but just out of curiosity, what type of film were you expecting? What did you not like about it?

I feel like a lot of people went into the theatre with a false idea of what it was actually about.

I haven't seen a movie in the theater in at least 6yrs. I spent $14 for my wife and I, and I enjoyed the time out with her and the flick.

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What was it that yall didnt like about it?

The DC movies, as a whole, arent very good, in my opinion.
They get star power, but the movies are boring and long (that said, the Christopher Nolan/Bale Batman movies were great (imo))
I think you answered your own question......
 
So you didnt like it cause it was boring and long?
How was Phoenix' acting/performance?

Did any of you go in hoping for a happy ending and that played a role in how you felt about it afterwards?
 
So you didnt like it cause it was boring and long?
How was Phoenix' acting/performance?

Did any of you go in hoping for a happy ending and that played a role in how you felt about it afterwards?

If you've read the Breitbart review above, and that's what you go into it then you will not be surprised and likely love it.

He played him so well it wouldn't surprise me if the role took its toll on him...
 
How was Phoenix' acting/performance?
it wouldn't surprise me if the role took its toll on him...


I saw Jerry Seinfeld on an Award Show a while back, he said:
I don't usually go to awards shows, this one for comedians is a little different.
The best I can tell Actors have NO talent at all. A limo picks them up and takes them to the shoot. Once there somebody dresses them and makes them up. Then somebody gives him his lines for the day, "what to say". Then somebody "tells him how to say it".
Then if he screws it up....They just Do It Again!
A comedian dresses himself, memorizes a 45 minute bit, walks out in the middle of the stage Alone and Lives or Dies on his material.
Hmmm, kinda put things into perspective to me.....

WS said " Actresses are something more than women..Actors are something less than men.

Somebody on Here said a while back..I have needed a plumber, an electrician, brick mason, roofer, and all around fix it man in my life. I have NEVER needed a professional athlete or actor for Anything....I like that.
 
Somebody on Here said a while back..I have needed a plumber, an electrician, brick mason, roofer, and all around fix it man in my life. I have NEVER needed a professional athlete or actor for Anything....I like that.

Need? No
But we like the,/their work, we use their services
 
I’ve never needed a specific actor. But I have, at times, needed or desired the fruit of their “labor” as an escape and for entertainment. The intent of that saying it accurate, but humans developed art for a reason and it wasn’t just to give hippies a job.


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A friend of mine came in from out of town and wanted to go watch this. I agree with @BurnedOutGeek , it sucked. The slow pace and back story were too much. While I say this, it is probably being nominated for an academy award. I usually hate award winning films, and this would be that. It is a “love it or hate it” film.

On a side note, my buddy said “ Joaquin Phoenix did a good job playing the character”. I said he is basically a crazy guy playing another crazy guy. Plus he weighs about 135lbs, and looks sickly. So it worked as the joker.
 
I’ll wait for it to come out on a streaming service, I’m still worried about some incel leftist loser shooting up a theater.
 
This is on HBO or something now, so I watched yesterday.

I didnt hate it.
I didnt love it either.
It was something that I recorded and erased from my DVR, one time watch for me. Not saying that as a bad thing, necessarily, but it's just not something I'd watch a ton.

Anyway, to the movie.
It was dark. There is no hero to come in and save the day. There is violence and mayhem, but not too much violence. Like, I would have been happy with more in the movie. It's NOT an action movie, it's a drama.

He played a great mentally ill (?) person, thought he had a good performance in the movie and see why he'd be nominated for awards (no clue if he won anything, dont care, but I see why he'd be nominated).

And, I dont remember exactly, but I think they used the same masks in this as the Ledger one (bank scene). Maybe not, but when I saw them they just seemed familiar, which I thought was neat.
 
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