Launch of SSN 798 Massachusetts

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Pretty cool video. Of note are the blurred out portions of the deck/sail, sonar-dome under the chin, large amount of steam once water hit the body(?), and porta-shitters on the deck for the ride to the dock! Hooray for rules!

 
Nice lookin' vessel!

When I was mate on an offshore tug/equipment handling vessel, we met up with fast attack subs halfway to Bermuda to lower a noisemaker, and they would run circles around us to calibrate their sonar. Steam is likely wet exhaust from being powered up with the diesel generator.
 
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very cool. I have a buddy that has done a lot of welding at Newport News Shipbuilding, and he's said before that one of the things the navy is most secretive about is the "screw" (propeller) on the subs. Neat to see in that video that they had it shrouded to conceal it's design/shape. He'd told me that they cover it up as soon as they bring a sub in for repairs so nobody sees it unless their work requires them to see it.

Interesting thought.... With nuclear power, and the heat generated i'd bet these things leave a wake of warm water behind them. I wonder what kind of tech the navy has to be able to detect enemy subs and if it includes looking for thermal trails in the sea...
 
very cool. I have a buddy that has done a lot of welding at Newport News Shipbuilding, and he's said before that one of the things the navy is most secretive about is the "screw" (propeller) on the subs. Neat to see in that video that they had it shrouded to conceal it's design/shape. He'd told me that they cover it up as soon as they bring a sub in for repairs so nobody sees it unless their work requires them to see it.

Interesting thought.... With nuclear power, and the heat generated i'd bet these things leave a wake of warm water behind them. I wonder what kind of tech the navy has to be able to detect enemy subs and if it includes looking for thermal trails in the sea...

First, that was a very cool video.

To your point, @RetiredUSNChief can probably add something. I have no idea of the water churned in the wake, how fast the heat dissipates, I imagine submerged it can rely on thermoclines to hide any hear signatures. But I am guessing based on solely watching The Hunt for Red October.
 
That "steam" was diesel exhaust. The ship was providing its own electrical power via the diesel generator, which exhausts from the upper, aft end of the sail.

The screw on the Virginia class is a propulsor, as opposed to an unshrouded screw. And yes, submarine screw/propulsor technology is top secret information. We were generations ahead of the Soviets...up until Toshiba sold top secret submarine screw manufacturing technology to the Soviets in the late 80s (at least four huge machines from Toshiba Machine Company used to mill submarine screws, including the computer programs to operate the machines, via the Norwegian company Kongsberg Vapenfabrik). Though apparently the parent company Toshiba did not know about this, it's the reason why I will NEVER knowingly buy Toshiba products, ever.

When a submarine pulls into drydock, a cover is placed over the screw so that it's not visible as the water is pumped down in the drydock.

In fact, the only place where you can see ANY nuclear submarine screw from one of our submarines is at the Submarine Force Museum in Groton Connecticut, which has the USS Nautilus' screws on display outside. This is because the Nautilus' screws were essentially WWII submarine screws, which look like surface ship screws (which makes sense, as submarines of that era were essentially submersible ships that spent most of their time on the surface transiting from one place to another).

As for heat signatures...water provides a fantastic mask for heat transmission. Heat cannot be transmitted (radiated) through the water for easy detection at any distance like it can through air or a vacuum, even though it's an excellent conductor of heat.

That "chin" is part of the sonar system. The tarps along the sides cover side-mounted sonar arrays, too. The sonar capabilities of a Virginia class boat must be generations ahead of all prior systems.

Some pics and whatnot:

Submarine Sail USS North Dakota Diesel Exhaust.jpg

Virginia Class Masts and Antennas.jpg

Virginia Class USS Texas.jpg

Virginia Class Screw Diagram.jpg

Virginia Class Sonar.jpg
 
That "steam" was diesel exhaust.
Wet?


Interesting to see all the crap that was damaged or torn off when the conning tower of the sub we were working with collided with the keel of the tug when they were steaming around us, and we were stationary. Lifted the stern of the tug a couple of feet. They had all that stuff flapping in the breeze all the way home, had to go real slow. We got new bottom paint.
 
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Wet?



Interesting to see all the crap that was damaged or torn off when the conning tower of the sub we were working with collided with the keel of the tug when they were steaming around us, and we were stationary. Lifted the stern of the tug a couple of feet. They had all that stuff flapping in the breeze all the way home, had to go real slow. We got new bottom paint.

"Wet" probably referring to sea water cooling of the exhaust.

There's an actual EPA paper on this:

 
Yes, seawater injection into exhaust, like what we had on me passage making auxiliary sailing vessel. That's where the steam would come from, but there would be water as well. Lotsa steam from dry diesel exhaust indicates a very cold engine.

What does the paper conclude?
 
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Interesting thought.... With nuclear power, and the heat generated i'd bet these things leave a wake of warm water behind them. I wonder what kind of tech the navy has to be able to detect enemy subs and if it includes looking for thermal trails in the sea...


The ocean is really big. Dilution is the solution.
 
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