Discussion in 'Military Surplus - Curios & Relics' started by AKshooter47, Sep 9, 2018.
I have one as well but it's a much later model from just before the revolution. Love the old guns!
Amazing that almost 50 years after it was made the Finns used a reamer and opened up the throat to accept the D166 bullet.
Jeremy, would you mind going into a little more detail on the D166 bullet and the alterations the Fins made to Russian rifles? This one is a Finnish capture, as you can probably tell from the arctic birch stock.
I also noticed from the large "D" stamp.
Once the Finns accepted the D166 200grn FMJ as the standard round they found the ogive on that rounds was a little farther forward than most x54 bullets. So to alleviate any chance of jamming the round into the rifling and causing a pressure spike...they slightly reamed the throat to open it up for the D166.
Once they were opened up they were stamped with a large "D" to denote it being ready for the D166 round.
Thanks so much for your reply, I'm fairly new to collecting Mosins and I didn't know any of this. I'm assuming standard Russian 7.62x54r doesn't use the D166? Should I be using Finnish surplus?
There is no Finnish surplus..we not much..its more collectible than shootable.
Russian ammo used the two different ball rounds a ~149grn and a ~181grn bullet.
I use milsurp for plinking and general shooting events.. Handloads when I want to get serious....
Every rifle is different so no telling what ammo it will shoot best with. "IF" you have to buy milsurp I suggest the Yugo ball..it's brass case, corrosive and the heavy 182 grn bullet. But it's also new...usually from the 1980s. Its also usually the most accurate as well.
I guess it goes without saying the commercial, Tula ammo is not as accurate as some of the heavier, hotter milsurp stuff? I've heard to get the most out of these rifles you've got to handload. I'm looking foward to getting into that aspect of the hobby, its just a little intimidating with everything thats involved.
Not sure..never shot the new commercial stuff. I use milsurp or handloads.
The Tula stuff is 148grain. Not sure about the load data
It will be a copy of the military light ball load
Now I'm gonna have to look for the big d on mine.
One is an imperial era dated 1902...one is a tula from 1937...those are the finn captures. The m28 is finn built.
There is also an ex dragoon in the mix but it is not a finn
Pics or it didn't happen!!
Ex dragoon was in the back.of the safe and not in the picture.
Closer look at the m91 and 91/38 receivers.
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