More Craziness, NY Gun Laws

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I post this so people know how things are going in NY. With the amount of NYer's moving here, some play for the other side and will promote these type of things here. (of course many moving here from there think the exact same way as most people here, that's why they moved away).

Before the new laws two months ago, it would take about 10 months to a year to get your "to/from range only" pistol license. Now, who knows? Add in that you will now need a background investigation and a license just to buy a semi-auto rifle, I see it taking TWO YEARS to get a pistol license in downstate NY. Hopefully the courts will shut this down.


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As a former NY’er I can tell you the laws they have are insane. I lived in the rural part of upstate NY and a lot of people including myself have the same values as most of the forum here.

It’s a matter of being able to leave and come to a free state. I will say never take the freedoms NC allow all of us here. It’s almost like a different country!

Thanks for having an ex-NY’er who enjoys freedom!
 
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That list of demands on exercise of my rights is about #50 on the 100 top reasons I wouldn't live in NY. As some have said, most of the state is beautiful and filled with lovely people. But the tail, which is large in relation, wags the dog.

The boonies of California are beautiful and most likely filled with lovely people. I met some very right-leaning rednecks from outside the cities in California on some tours I used to go on. Outside of Chicago, in the boonies of Illinois you'll find some right-wing nut jobs who make George Wallace look liberal.
 
I was having a few drinks with a guy a level or two above me at a work conference a while back and he suggested i move to new york. I said the company couldn't pay me enough. he talked about how much the people below me make and i said i still couldn't be bought to go live there. he was like "why are you set against it?"
i told him i make enough that we're pretty comfy, and the raise minus the cost of living increase wouldn't change my life enough to offset the politics or the fact that i have 2 quiet acres where i can build guns and shoot them.
he raised his drink and saluted my sound thinking. he grew up a southern country boy and he still heads south a few times a year to where his parents have a bunch of acres he goes to relax at.
north/south/east/west don't matter to me. neither does climate. all I care about is being free to live mostly how i want
 
That list of demands on exercise of my rights is about #50 on the 100 top reasons I wouldn't live in NY. As some have said, most of the state is beautiful and filled with lovely people. But the tail, which is large in relation, wags the dog.

The boonies of California are beautiful and most likely filled with lovely people. I met some very right-leaning rednecks from outside the cities in California on some tours I used to go on. Outside of Chicago, in the boonies of Illinois you'll find some right-wing nut jobs who make George Wallace look liberal.
If you cut out Chicago, illinois would be solidly red. Been there many times and seen who lives there.

Lefty's like to complain about gerrymandering. They do it with the best of them.
 
yeah that’ll get tossed. Can’t restrict the exercise of one right because you don’t like how they lawfully exercise another. Gonna take time though.
 
I escaped from Suffolk County LI NY in 1990. I 1985 I wanted to get a Ruger .22 so the purchase permit was five pages of NCR paper, needed five references not related by marriage or blood and the application fee. I went home and tossed it in the trash. Worse then a mortgage application.
 
I escaped from Suffolk County LI NY in 1990. I 1985 I wanted to get a Ruger .22 so the purchase permit was five pages of NCR paper, needed five references not related by marriage or blood and the application fee. I went home and tossed it in the trash. Worse then a mortgage application.

Nassau and Suffolk counties have always listed every one of your handguns on your pistol license - but now Suffolk is treating semi-auto rifles the same as pistols. Once you get a semi-auto rifle license (new state law), you will have to jump through all of the hoops to put that rifle on your license. So now if you live in Suffolk, you will have every handgun and every semi-auto rifle (obtained after Sept. 2022) on a license in your wallet. No other county is requiring that that I know of.

They have created a lucrative, black market industry of bringing in old Ruger 10/22's and any other pre-2013 semi-auto rifles, and quietly selling them in NY for a premium.
 
They’re blatantly in violation of the recent Bruen decision. It seems in the aftermath of that case with the Supreme Court they’ve decided to just double down on the treason and infringement upon rights. It’s costing over $1,000 to APPLY for a CCW in NY now with the drug screen, notarizations, fees, etc…
 
They’re blatantly in violation of the recent Bruen decision. It seems in the aftermath of that case with the Supreme Court they’ve decided to just double down on the treason and infringement upon rights. It’s costing over $1,000 to APPLY for a CCW in NY now with the drug screen, notarizations, fees, etc…
Absolutely. And when the courts strike down these absurd, obviously unconstitutional laws, there will be zero consequences for those who knowingly passed unconstitutional laws.

I hear some of the sheep are starting to gather stones.
 
Absolutely. And when the courts strike down these absurd, obviously unconstitutional laws, there will be zero consequences for those who knowingly passed unconstitutional laws.

I hear some of the sheep are starting to gather stones.
Here’s the thing. They know it will be struck down by the SC but that will take years and when that does happen they will submit a revised bunch of laws and the game will continue. Course by then we may have 6 more SC justices that have been added and they would then rule in NY’s favor. And yes, no one will feel any consequence .
 
Dear Nassau County Police Department,

I tried to comply with the requirements outlined in your letter. However, after conducting a thorough search far and wide I could not find any Notary Services which could affix their notary seal on that steaming pile of horse sh*t. Every time they attempted to apply their seal, all they got for their efforts were a squishy, foul smelling brown ooze from between the plates of the seal.

I would like to take this moment to point out a few things with respect to your letter.

For example, the requirement to submit all those items in person as notorized statements. All notorizing does is have someone affix their seal and signature to a document attesting that the person who provided the information is who they say they are (presented an ID, for example) and that said person SWORE what they put in that document is true. Given that you could have virtually ANY form/document filled out with the Pistol License Section which meets EXACTLY this same criteria, I am forced to come to the conclusion that all the information you require to be delivered by notorized document is nothing more than a set of flaming hoops you choose to make any applicants jump through. And, might I add, at their own expense since each notorized document would require a fee. If you want me to come in-person for this process, then kick it up a notch and start doing your job.

For another, you are requesting criminal information which YOU, as a police department, should ALREADY have access to. Criminal and misdemeanor convictions are a matter of public record and are certainly already accessable by the Police Department simply by virtue of your business nature, to wit "law enforcement". Do your own job. I work for a living, too, and I don't ask other people to do my job. If I did, my boss might as well hire someone else to do my job and fire me. Which gives me some thoughts about the Nassau County PD, by the way.

My current spouse/partner and any other adults living with me (children or not) are not any business of the Pistol License Section with respect to my application. If they should pursue their own application, then it would be your business...but only so far as it involved THEIR application, not mine. I have no interst in providing information to an armed agency which may have members interested in pursuing family members for nefarious activities while I'm out and about doing things like a mandated, in-person appearance to the Pistol License Section. Go find other uncommitted adults to bang and stay away from me and my house in the process.

As for a "certificate of completion endorsed and affirmed by a duly authorized instruction demonstrating your proficiency in a concealed carry firearms safety training course...", I've got your certificate right here (please visualize my hand gripping my crotch). I've looked up the Nassau County Police Department pistol qualifications and let me say I find them abysmal. Terrifyingly simplistic and amateuristic, in fact. So much so that your entire department ought to be held to Barney Fife standards and the single bullet the entire department shares ought to be a Snap-Cap kept under lock and key and only issued when the Zombie Apocalypse starts. I've probably got more range time, and put more rounds down range, than your entire police department put together.

About that urine drug testing...I'll be happy to show up in person and provide a sample which YOU can then ship to a certified lab under your own dime. I'll happily provide the sample in full compliance with the standards in which I gave all such samples while I was Active Duty, too. After 20 years of doing random urinalysis in the Navy, I could provide a sample standing on the 50 yard line during Half Time at the Superbowl. Or I can just leave a sample running down your leg. Your choice.


NOW...for a bit of an embarassing history lesson for you (and your entire state).

It is with great irony that I note that the state of New York was one of the two original 13 states which expressly made it a condition of their ratification and continued existence within the Union that a Bill of Rights would be the first order of business for the First Congress and explicitly that this bill of rights would contain the Right to Keep and Bear Arms for all. The other state was North Carolina.

That's right. New York and North Carolina both thought it was so important that this particular right be explicity protected that they BOTH said they would tell the Union to f*ck off and die rather than be a part of it.

And here you are today, wall-papering a right behind BS tyranical restrictions your forebears explicitly fought to prevent. You are less than an embarassing sperm stain on the *ss-tat of a diseased whore.


Signed,

John Q. Public
Maybe a resident of New York and maybe not
Malum prohibitum criminal extraordinaire
 
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As a former NY’er I can tell you the laws they have are insane. I lived in the rural part of upstate NY and a lot of people including myself have the same values as most of the forum here.

It’s a matter of being able to leave and come to a free state. I will say never take the freedoms NC allow all of us here. It’s almost like a different country!

Thanks for having an ex-NY’er who enjoys freedom!
Same here. Should have done this 30 years ago.
 
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