NC 2nd Amendment Sanctuary Counties - map/updates

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NC 2nd Amendment Sanctuary map

(Updated 8/16/2020)


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(map courtesy of @pee wee )

77 of 100 counties - resolution passed

Pitt - 2/4/13
Lenoir - 2/18/13
Cherokee - 3/4/19
Rutherford - 7/1/19
Clay - 11/26/19
Cleveland - 12/3/19
Lincoln - 1/6/20
Surry - 1/6/20
Wilkes - 1/7/20
Rowan - 1/10/20
Stokes - 1/13/20
Beaufort -1/13/20
Davidson - 1/14/20
McDowell - 1/14/20
Ashe - 1/21/20
Union - 1/21/20
Pamlico - 1/21/20
Cabarrus - 1/21/20
Catawba - 1/21/20
Stanly - 1/21/20
Currituck - 1/21/20
Yadkin - 1/21/20
Wayne - 1/21/20
Gaston - 1/28/20
Avery - 2/3/20
Harnett - 2/3/20
Henderson - 2/3/20
Johnston - 2/3/20
Randolph - 2/3/20
Rockingham - 2/3/20
Camden - 2/3/20
Gates - 2/3/20
Robeson - 2/3/20
Columbus - 2/3/20
Haywood - 2/3/20
Bladen - 2/3/20
Caldwell - 2/3/20
Craven - 2/3/20
Alamance - 2/3/20
Davie - 2/3/20
Alleghany - 2/3/20
Alexander - 2/3/20
Jones - 2/3/20
Pasquotank - 2/3/20
Mitchell - 2/3/20
Caswell - 2/3/20
Franklin - 2/3/20
Dare - 2/4/20
Iredell - 2/4/20
Richmond - 2/4/20
Anson - 2/4/20
Graham - 2/4/20
Forsyth - 2/6/20
Yancey - 2/10/20
Onslow - 2/10/20
Madison - 2/11/20
Martin - 2/12/20
Carteret - 2/17/20
Brunswick - 2/17/20
Lee - 2/17/20
Granville - 2/17/20
Burke - 2/18/20
Moore - 2/18/20
Montgomery 2/18/20
Chowan - 2/18/20
Person - 2/18/20
Polk - 3/2/20
Wilson - 3/2/20
Perquimans - 3/2/20
Vance - 3/9/20
Scotland - 3/9/20
Macon - 3/10/20
Hyde - 3/10/20
Pender - 3/16/20
Greene - 4/6/20
Nash - 8/3/20
New Hanover - 8/10/20

Map will be updated regularly as more counties pass resolutions.
 
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Those are all mountain counties.
Mountain folks have a long history (in this area about 300 years, and the native Indians long before that) of telling governments to go pound sand, and no other subject will get them fired up as much as 'taking the guns'. Even anti's who don't have a dog in this fight or perhaps do, know better than to get in the face of a mountain man about his gun. They usually just stick to their other ideals such as health care/gay/abortion/weed.
And these TN mountain folks are not like mountain folks in the Sierra Nevada's. They don't have big fancy properties with composting barrels and gated driveways. They're hardcore woodsmen and women.
3rd..the US has never won a war/conflict/police action in mountainous terrain.
Never.
 
Those are all mountain counties.
Mountain folks have a long history (in this area about 300 years, and the native Indians long before that) of telling governments to go pound sand, and no other subject will get them fired up as much as 'taking the guns'. Even anti's who don't have a dog in this fight or perhaps do, know better than to get in the face of a mountain man about his gun. They usually just stick to their other ideals such as health care/gay/abortion/weed.
And these TN mountain folks are not like mountain folks in the Sierra Nevada's. They don't have big fancy properties with composting barrels and gated driveways. They're hardcore woodsmen and women.
3rd..the US has never won a war/conflict/police action in mountainous terrain.
Never.

That also used to be NC, so they have that going for them too. :D
 
How would someone go about getting this started in their own county?

I’m in Wilkes NC and would like to see it happen here as well as all over the state.

If people, in sufficient number, will contact (call/email/write/visit) their town/city council or county commissioners, stating they want to see a vote on declaring the city/county a 2nd Amendment sanctuary, it may be enough to convince them to pursue it.
 
Those are all mountain counties.
Mountain folks have a long history (in this area about 300 years, and the native Indians long before that) of telling governments to go pound sand, and no other subject will get them fired up as much as 'taking the guns'. Even anti's who don't have a dog in this fight or perhaps do, know better than to get in the face of a mountain man about his gun. They usually just stick to their other ideals such as health care/gay/abortion/weed.
And these TN mountain folks are not like mountain folks in the Sierra Nevada's. They don't have big fancy properties with composting barrels and gated driveways. They're hardcore woodsmen and women.
3rd..the US has never won a war/conflict/police action in mountainous terrain.
Never.
Ever read about the Battle of Chattanooga?.....also know as the death knell of the Confederacy.
 
If people, in sufficient number, will contact (call/email/write/visit) their town/city council or county commissioners, stating they want to see a vote on declaring the city/county a 2nd Amendment sanctuary, it may be enough to convince them to pursue it.


i would like to just to see how many heads would explode here in the "village". half these yuppy carpetbaggers call 911 every time a car backfires.
 
i would like to just to see how many heads would explode here in the "village". half these yuppy carpetbaggers call 911 every time a car backfires.

If some of them knew what was being carried in the vehicles they pass on L-C Road or by the people they walk past while shopping at Lowe’s, they would shite.

Seriously...I think some of them would shite.
 
Wife just mentioned a meeting on January 7th in Wilkes promoting our county (Wilkes) becoming a 2a sanctuary county and starting a militia. Going to do a little research and if it’s for real I’ll be there. She saw it on Facebook so we’ll see.

edited to add 6-9pm at the Wilkes county office building in Wilkesboro.
 
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If some of them knew what was being carried in the vehicles they pass on L-C Road or by the people they walk past while shopping at Lowe’s, they would shite.

Seriously...I think some of them would shite.
I was just shopping in home depot tonight in FAY and the customer i was talking to about tools had his phone in his jacket pocket. that caused his jacket to get caught behind his glock. He just said "oops" and covered it back up.
I thought about acting offended as a joke so I could switch to talking guns... but he had to scoot on and pick up his wife and kids from the Target next door.
I've seen young women with guns clearly printing through their tanktops and yoga pants there.
I like that home depot, it's a fun place full of good people.
 
How would someone go about getting this started in their own county?

I’m in Wilkes NC and would like to see it happen here as well as all over the state.
They have a Facebook group going around...Wilkes County second amendment sanctuary support.

***Edit, I see you already found the FB page. Sorry.
 
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Found this gem on Facebook this morning by Wayne Howard of the Lincoln Times. Copied and pasted for your enjoyment. Find it on Facebook if you feel like letting him know what you think.




My editorial published on the Lincoln Herald website has drawn many comments and almost universal criticism. I'm not surprised.

A Facebook group known as Lincoln County, NC 2A Support Group has attained they say over 3,000 members in less than two weeks. County Commissioners will almost certainly vote Monday night (Jan. 6th) a resolution declaring the county a Second Amendment Sanctuary county.

As I pointed out in the editorial, it's pointless from a practical standpoint--the Second Amendment (as well as all others) is part of the US Constitution, so it's the supreme law of the land and is not subject to reversal by any state or local laws. It's also political--2020 is an election year, after all--since it has overwhelming public support. It's about as important as saying 'we like apple pie,' except...

In Virginia, the newly elected Democrats who are becoming the majority in the state legislature, have decided to pass some new gun control laws. Just say the words 'gun control,' and no matter what you're suggesting, you can be assured you'll instantly be labeled as a bed-wetting Communist Libtard (one of their favorite expressions and while they don't know it, one stolen from the late radio host Don Imus, whose politics they would have despised had they known him).

I find it in one sense amusing and in another disappointing and reason for concern that most of those who have signed petitions favoring this resolution have not and will not explore the facts about what has been proposed or what might be proposed in Virginia, the state where the current brouhaha developed.

As usual, much of what has been said on the subject (posted and reposted on Facebook) is conjecture--based loosely on a few facts and often expanded far beyond what is really true. It's actually impossible to say what the 'new laws' the Virginia Dems might try to pass will be. They introduced some bills in the legislature last year--when the Republicans held the majority there, but new bills will have to be introduced and they may differ from what was filed in 2019.

Based on what was filed last year, here are (I know some will call it 'fake news,' as they do with anything that doesn't agree with their politics) but it's the truth as best I can tell based on careful search and interviews both with pro-gun and pro-gun control persons who are actually knowledgeable about the proposals and existing laws.

Current Virginia laws do not require a permit to purchase rifles, shotguns or handguns, do not require firearm registration or licensing, do not require any kind of permit to carry a rifle or shotgun.

Current laws also don't regulate the transfer or possession of higher-powered (.50-caliber) rifles or large capacity ammunition magazines. Virginia state law doesn't require any background check before transferring a firearm between individuals, imposes no waiting period before the sale of a firearm, doesn't require owners to report lost or stolen guns. Concealed carry does require a court-issued permit and gun dealers must contact state police for a background check before they make a sale.

There are some restrictions on so-called assault firearms, currently defined as being designed to accommodate a silencer or folding stock, and having a magazine that can hold over 20 rounds. Non-US citizens can’t buy, possess or transport one; and so-called "streetsweepers" (semi-automatic shotguns) are banned.

The proposed new laws would ban assault weapons, silencers and high-capacity magazines (under the proposals, more than 10 rounds for rifles, more than seven for shotguns), require universal background checks on all firearm transactions, limit the purchase of handguns to no more than one per month, allow local governments like counties, cities & towns to pass local ordinances banning firearms from libraries and other government buildings, require that all thefts of firearms be reported to police within 24 hours after the gun or guns went missing, prohibit possession of guns by a person under a court-issued protective order.

Now I know that those proposals may sound unreasonable to those who believe there should be NO restrictions on any kind of firearms, but to me--honestly--they make good sense.

There has long been an argument about what the 'founding fathers' intended the Second Amendment (and others for that matter) to mean, and whether it should be interpreted today in the exact same way. I have no doubt that they intended for every American to be able to own the same kind of weaponry as the US Army. They had, after all, just fought a war in which they overthrew the existing government and believed that might need to be done again. [Read the words of that Second Amendment carefully...I think you'll come to the same opinion.]

So does it make sense that you and I should be able to own bazookas and tanks and missiles? Not to me, but then I'm not in favor of a rigid interpretation. The real question seems to be: at what point do we draw the line? If you say everyone should be able to own any kind of weapon (including missiles, bombs, machine guns, etc.) then you favor a rigid interpretation and so be it. If you don't, then you--or more reasonably your elected representatives--need to decide just where the line should be drawn. To me, universal background checks make good sense as do the other aforementioned proposals. I don't see any good reason why you might need a rifle that can fire more than 10 rounds before inserting another clip--or a shotgun that can fire more than seven.

If you believe in that rigid interpretation, then you should have no problem with people owning machine guns, bazookas, bombs, missiles, tanks, etc. If you don't, then the question becomes: where do you draw the line?

The decision on that should be made by duly elected representatives. The place for debate on the issue is the legislature.

My problem with the "Second Amendment Sanctuary" movement that began in Virginia and has now spread to North Carolina is that some of those involved--local Commissioners and sheriffs--have decided that if they don't agree with a law...if they believe it may not be Constitutionally valid...they have the right not to uphold it. To me, that sets a dangerous precedent.

Decisions on the validity of laws (whether they are or are not in accord with the Constitution) should be made in the courts--not by a local law enforcement officer or politician.

This squabble over the Second Amendment isn't the first time that state laws, local laws and public opinion have run contrary to what was eventually declared as valid by the US Supreme Court. The civil rights movement and the laws related to school desegregation come to mind. There were other cases before that.

I don't believe it is the intent of the Lincoln County Commissioners to disobey state laws with which they might disagree--related to guns or otherwise. I believe that Sheriff Beam will (as he said he would in his oath of office) uphold the law, including those with which he might not agree, until such time as the courts decide they are not valid. I actually don't believe that North Carolina is likely to pass any laws similar to those proposed in Virginia. We do, after all, want to be able to keep our missiles, bazookas and machine guns.


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While I think its awesome...at the same time I think it is freaking sad that we have to declare "sanctuaries" for constitutional amendments.


I agree totally with what you are saying.

I feel like i need to do something. Definitely more than just show up to a meeting but I don’t know what or how. This is at least something for now.

edited to add: I know people donate to goa and the like, I just wish there was something I could do or we as a group could do to change things. I think our political system is broken but feel like if I just standing here and watch it burn, afterward I’ll think well I could have done this or that.
 
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Wife said surry county just passed as a sanctuary county but wanted to call it something else so it wouldn’t sound like the sanctuary cities out west for criminals and illegals.

Supposedly Surry had their meeting tonight and Wilkes has their meeting tomorrow. We just moved from Surry to Wilkes 6 months ago so hopefully it passes here.

I’m also not sure how all this works, if it has to be voted on multiple times or what or by who. As booger said earlier, it’s sad, but I am glad something is being done.


Here’s a screen shot of what the wife found

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Where can one see the wording of such a resolution? I feel certain the yahoos on my county council wouldn't know where to begin with something like this.

I'm also not confident they would support it.
 
If you believe in that rigid interpretation, then you should have no problem with people owning machine guns, bazookas, bombs, missiles, tanks, etc. If you don't, then the question becomes: where do you draw the line?

The decision on that should be made by duly elected representatives. The place for debate on the issue is the legislature.

My problem with the "Second Amendment Sanctuary" movement that began in Virginia and has now spread to North Carolina is that some of those involved--local Commissioners and sheriffs--have decided that if they don't agree with a law...if they believe it may not be Constitutionally valid...they have the right not to uphold it. To me, that sets a dangerous precedent.

Decisions on the validity of laws (whether they are or are not in accord with the Constitution) should be made in the courts--not by a local law enforcement officer or politician.

Weeeeelllllllll...gotta disagree with you here, Skippy.

Where do I draw the line? I draw the line where a citizen ACTUALLY COMMITS (OR CONSPIRES TO COMMIT) A CRIME. Commits a crime "malum in se" (wrong or evil in and of itself) as opposed to "malum prohibitum" (wrong because the law says it's wrong).

The decision on that should be made by duly elected representatives? Ummmm...NO. The "decision" should be made by the CITIZENS through their representatives. NOT "by" the representatives. Hence the term "representatives". Further, it should be made based upon the limitations placed upon the government as a whole in the first place. There is a reason those limitations were put in place and they have never, nor will they ever, change: government inherently exercises power over the citizens BY DESIGN and government inherently seeks to INCREASE that power.

Decisions on the validity of the law have ALWAYS been contested in a variety of means, and the courts are only one of them. There are three branches of the government for a reason, and EACH has a check and balance on the other two. The most powerful of the three is the Legislative Branch...because it is their sole authority to WRITE the laws. This was recognized from the very beginning. The Executive Branch can veto bills and yes, even refuse (actively or passively) to enforce laws. The Judicial Branch doesn't provide ANY "active" check on the Legislative Branch at all...it is NOT their job to adjudicate each and every law the Legislative Branch passes. They only deal with challenges to those laws.

And how do those challenges come up? By a variety of means INCLUDING PEOPLE ACTIVELY DISOBEYING OR REFUSING TO ENFORCE LAWS.

People who think that ONLY the government is "authorized" to challenge/contest the government (HAH!) are, in fact, wrong.

The Constitution itself starts off with "WE THE PEOPLE...". THIS is the ultimate source of power and authority and those within the government who would have us believe otherwise fall under the "tyrannical" category and those not within the government who believe this fall under the "subject" category.
 
Yeah it doesn't get more "We the People" than local County governments. It's obvious that they are more accountable than almost every other representative. If you don't believe that, attend a County Governmental meeting sometime.

My favorite guy is the guy who wore what appeared to be a Gordon's Fisherman outfit and ranted for his 5 minutes against some slight he recieved during a zoning matter. I wouldn't want to have seen him in the parking lot if I were a County Commissioner.
 
So, living in Surry, i'm glad "it" passed.... but what exactly is "it". Does this mean that no matter what law is passed the Sheriff is not "comin to git muh guns" , or what exactly does this sanctuary entail?
 
So, living in Surry, i'm glad "it" passed.... but what exactly is "it". Does this mean that no matter what law is passed the Sheriff is not "comin to git muh guns" , or what exactly does this sanctuary entail?

That's part of the reason I would like to see the wording of these resolutions.
 
Tazewell Va. has an approach that may wake up the tyrants and should be applied in every county nationwide. They are attempting to enlist a militia and by doing so may just scare the state into reconsidering it's take on firearm laws. The current approach (sanctuary) is nothing more than a feel good measure that will fail at first attempt. The commies have a game plan of divide and conquer that so far is working well, time to group and organise a resistance rather than forming an unorganised mob that will only fall into the trap easily set by the the anti's game. Hope all goes well in Richmond but I, jmho, suspect trouble in the making.
 
So, living in Surry, i'm glad "it" passed.... but what exactly is "it". Does this mean that no matter what law is passed the Sheriff is not "comin to git muh guns" , or what exactly does this sanctuary entail?


I’m not 100% sure myself. That was another reason I’m going to go and hear what they have to say in Wilkes tonight. It’s probably just a feel good measure and end the end I know what the goal is. Whatever I learn if anything I will post in this thread later this evening.
 
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