NC Trooper Shot & Killed

@SC380 you need 4 shifts, 1 on every 8 hours and 1 off in rotation.
As for the 2 per car, that would effectively double the amount of territory to be covered by that car which means the vehicles would only last 1/2 as long before timing out.
I see nothing beneficial about having 2 per car, it wouldn't have prevented this Troopers death, but could have possibly doubled the body count. When I was with GSP we tried 2 per car for about a month before it was shown to be less effective and more costly and it was abandoned.
I hate to say this but the Trooper made a mistake somewhere, somehow that resulted in his death. If you want to look at something let's look at their in service training which constantly drives home the basics and that's what failed in this case, basics....

RIP for Trooper Conner and prayers to his immediate and extended families......
 
EVERY public institution has been under funded and under staffed since I was old enough to read. And they wil continue to be so. Because there is not enough wealth or resources to satisfy those kingdoms.

Isn't it funny how since the invention of computer technology the private sector has managed to do more with less resources, but the public sector always needs more money and more people? It will never change. Sadly. Because too many peopel have a vested interest in that system.

It's not that there isn't enough wealth to satisfy the kingdoms, it's more a matter of the wealth they do have allotted to the SHP for pay is abysmal (as is every job in emergency services). Emergency services cannot replace the cop, EMT/medic, or FF with a computer.
 
Wasn’t far from my house, I heard the ambulances and everything responding. RIP Trooper Conner.
 
On a slight tangent, SCDOT implemented the SHEP trucks and mobile road direction signs in response to an analysis showing that their sworn troopers we're spending too much time on matters that could be handled by others. (road assistance, managing traffic)

Since we have moved away from the tragedy of a trooper being killed and onto a thread of models of law enforcement, I would like to see the Maryland State Police model. Get rid of alcohol law enforcement, get rid of SBI, get rid of the state highway patrol, and put it under one umbrella organization as the state police.

It would be easier to move personal around, I do not know what the manning looks like for the SBI or for alcohol law enforcement but the highway patrol is perpetually understaffed.

Back to the tragedy, I certainly would not do it. I had a good friend, AJ Stocks, former coworker who became a trooper, died in a collison as he was responding to a car wreck.
While their model might be efficient, I cringe at the idea of our State Patrol bring anything like I've heard of theirs. :eek:
 
And they'll have more time to deal with the big scary things when they aren't out wasting time on petty crap. And they'll have 4 hands instead of 2! Think how helpful they will be. And they will get killed less often. Win, win.
I'm guessing that you have never worked in any kind of Public Service/First Response type of agency. Why don't you apply for a job at the Highway Patrol, work your way through the ranks and show them how it's done.
 
On a slight tangent, SCDOT implemented the SHEP trucks and mobile road direction signs in response to an analysis showing that their sworn troopers we're spending too much time on matters that could be handled by others. (road assistance, managing traffic)


While their model might be efficient, I cringe at the idea of our State Patrol bring anything like I've heard of theirs. :eek:

I interviewed with MSP...1997ish. They do all of the helicopter transports for trauma; you have to be a medic, but then go through the academy, and come out as a trooper-medic. I love that program. Not in love with MSP in general. I wasn't too impressed with some of the people I met.

Edited to add, their trooper-medics, the ones I met, were stellar. The street guys, not so much. The medics try to do the entirety of their career in flight, but some go supervisory or into a special branch. None who I met ever wanted to be a highway patrolman.
 
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I interviewed with MSP...1997ish. They do all of the helicopter transports for trauma; you have to be a medic, but then go through the academy, and come out as a trooper-medic. I love that program. Not in love with MSP in general. I wasn't too impressed with some of the people I met.

Edited to add, their trooper-medics, the ones I met, were stellar. The street guys, not so much. The medics try to do the entirety of their career in flight, but some go supervisory or into a special branch. None who I met ever wanted to be a highway patrolman.
Now that's a whole other ball of wax. I've often thought the tactical medic side of things would be interesting like CONTOMS.

https://contoms.chepinc.org/
 
Hate to hear this. Prayers to all that he left behind. Hope the perp gets death penalty and they screw up the mixture and he ends up dying a long and painful death...
 
I forget the last statistic I heard...but their density is FAR LESS than 1/sq. mi. (meaning, many more square miles per trooper to cover). I know you likely said that tongue in cheek.

I found this when Googling NCSHP density: https://www.ncdps.gov/our-organization/law-enforcement/state-highway-patrol

Equates to an average of 100 miles of highway per trooper during any given shift. I'm not sure if they do house calls off of the right-of-way (i.e. burglary, assault, homicide, etc.).
I know it use to be 2 on duty in Randolph county (800 Sq miles) after a certain time. Im not sure what it is now. I've waited on the scene of a wreck for hours multiple times for a trooper to show up. I'm a fireman and the troopers come out to wrecks in the county.
 
I totally screwed that pooch with a typo. I meant to say far less (meaning a greater number of square miles). Thanks for pointing it out.

Nah, no biggie. I thought I knew what you might be saying but wanted to clarify it..I am one of those annoying detail guys :)

@SC380 you need 4 shifts, 1 on every 8 hours and 1 off in rotation.
As for the 2 per car, that would effectively double the amount of territory to be covered by that car which means the vehicles would only last 1/2 as long before timing out.
I see nothing beneficial about having 2 per car, it wouldn't have prevented this Troopers death, but could have possibly doubled the body count. When I was with GSP we tried 2 per car for about a month before it was shown to be less effective and more costly and it was abandoned.
I hate to say this but the Trooper made a mistake somewhere, somehow that resulted in his death. If you want to look at something let's look at their in service training which constantly drives home the basics and that's what failed in this case, basics....

RIP for Trooper Conner and prayers to his immediate and extended families......

I didn't know exactly how NCHP covered their shifts but figured no more than 1/3rd of the total force would be working at any one time. All I know is that small number of Troopers have a lot of territory to cover. Thanks for the info.

To your point, it depends on the purpose of having officers in the car. If they are actively working an area then it does make sense to have 2 in a car. If the officers are just doing patrol/traffic tickets in a typically mundane area then maybe 1 per car is the way to go. I have never heard anyone say we shouldn't have more officers on the scene because that might end up in more body count...interesting point. A second officer most certainly could have prevented the deaths of numerous officers who have died alone over the years. I am not advocating it but I am certainly not arguing against it either.
 
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I'm guessing that you have never worked in any kind of Public Service/First Response type of agency. Why don't you apply for a job at the Highway Patrol, work your way through the ranks and show them how it's done.

Some of the best innovations come from outsiders. That is why you often see companies hire consultants or see CEOs from completely different industries get hired to run certain companies. It is possible to suffer group think when you work your way through the ranks. Besides that, it is simple common sense that if they are wasting their time on petty stuff (IF), then there might be an opportunity to re-focus and gain in other areas or possibly save a troopers life...it isn't far fetched.
 
Since we have moved away from the tragedy of a trooper being killed and onto a thread of models of law enforcement, I would like to see the Maryland State Police model. Get rid of alcohol law enforcement, get rid of SBI, get rid of the state highway patrol, and put it under one umbrella organization as the state police.

It would be easier to move personal around, I do not know what the manning looks like for the SBI or for alcohol law enforcement but the highway patrol is perpetually understaffed.

Part of what the SBI does is policing the police. I personally think that is a valuable service.
 
Raheem Cole Dashanell Davis<---May you rot in hell.


Davis was on probation for a January 2017 conviction for firing a gun at a car in Chadbourn in June 2015, according to state Department of Public Safety records
 
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I appreciate all of you that can and will say a prayer for this deceased state trooper's family, co-workers, and friends. More will be known about this tragedy soon and hopefully will shed more light on some details surrounding the shooting.

I would be humbled if any CFF members would be willing to switch their avatars to honor his service in the coming days.


 
NC has 48-51k square miles depending on the source. Your source says 1600 troopers. If they are all working at the same time: 48,000 / 1600 = 30 or 1 trooper per 30 square miles. If we assume only 1/3 of the troopers are working at one time, then there is 1 trooper per 90 square miles. This is a density FAR LESS than 1 per sq mile.

And along with that there are 2 to 3 other law enforcement agencies at that same place.
 
I appreciate all of you that can and will say a prayer for this deceased state trooper's family, co-workers, and friends. More will be known about this tragedy soon and hopefully will shed more light on some details surrounding the shooting.

I would be humbled if any CFF members would be willing to switch their avatars to honor his service in the coming days.


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25 years ago I worked 100s of hours as an armed ride a long. I worked with Georgetown County Narcotics, Myrtle Beach, and SCHP. Sadly, partly because of our litigious society, partly because of over reaching controls, this is no longer allowed. More than once I stepped in and was always regarded as a good man to have along. However, there is no possible circumstance that I would be involved in that role today. Civilization is on the wane.
This incident is right across our border. If anybody knows anything we can do from here to help this family, PLEASE, do not hesitate to contact us.
 
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I appreciate all of you that can and will say a prayer for this deceased state trooper's family, co-workers, and friends. More will be known about this tragedy soon and hopefully will shed more light on some details surrounding the shooting.

I would be humbled if any CFF members would be willing to switch their avatars to honor his service in the coming days.

Remember a few years ago, the 911 dispatcher / operator that was suspended for telling someone not to drive through Chadbourn at night? To Bypass it. This Davis guy that shot Trooper Conner was the same guy that shot at that occupied car and 911 caller about 2 years ago. The caller couldn’t understand why the dispatcher gave her that advice, taking it to the news to make her out as racist.

Total justice system failure that Davis was back on the street in that short amount of time, after trying to kill a person driving through Chadbourn.
 
Remember a few years ago, the 911 dispatcher / operator that was suspended for telling someone not to drive through Chadbourn at night? To Bypass it. This Davis guy that shot Trooper Conner was the same guy that shot at that occupied car and 911 caller about 2 years ago. The caller couldn’t understand why the dispatcher gave her that advice, taking it to the news to make her out as racist.

Total justice system failure that Davis was back on the street in that short amount of time, after trying to kill a person driving through Chadbourn.

I do remember. We really have a broken system.
 
Well a 911 call is not the most appropriate time to say something like that but 3 days unpaid is just to much imo. I guess it also depends on when during the call it was said too. I mean first thing out of her mouth yeah I get the three days, toward the end of the call when she's keeping them calm not the biggest deal.
It was good advice to use 701 bypass through Whiteville. Bypass Chadbourn at night. Those of us who live around here know better. GPS will take you through Chadbourn coming from I95 off 74 to 410 when going to Myrtle Beach.

Anyway some of my friends and family watched them bring him home today in Tabor City. I was at work on the road when I got a call this morning. Such a horrible day. Kevin was so nice to everyone. I can just picture him fishing the river with that big smile having a good time with his kid.

I’ve read some horrible comments on Facebook about cops, basically defending this killer. There was a great person and father behind that badge, Kevin wasn’t a racist killing pig. He did his job, and did a fine one at that, actually cared about everyone’s safety. Ever met a Trooper that was so nice they’d apologize for having to give you a ticket? That was Kevin.
 
Senseless act by a coward. I knew Kevin, he grew up in Bladenboro about 20 minutes from here in Lumberton. He worked as a city cop here for awhile before he got into patrol school.
The system has to change. Kids today do not fear the system and wear prison as a badge of honor. I worked in the prison system 10 yrs and got tired of seeing inmates coddled and live like they're in a retirement village. Murderers should be hung in the town square and all the junior high students should be required to sit and watch, but that'll never happen.
Until honest, God fearing men and women take back control of society this is what we're stuck with...... a broken system that thugs and criminals don't fear or respect, and we're the ones who pay for them to sit back in the air conditioning and watch ballgames on tv while we support them.
Sorry for the rant. I'll get off my soapbox now.
 
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Senseless act by a coward. I knew Kevin, he grew up in Bladenboro about 20 minutes from here in Lumberton. He worked as a city cop here for awhile before he got into patrol school.
The system has to change. Kids today do not fear the system and wear prison as a badge of honor. I worked in the prison system 10 yrs and got tired of seeing inmates coddled and live like they're in a retirement village. Murderers should be hung in the town square and all the junior high students should be required to sit and watch, but that'll never happen.
Until honest, God fearing men and women take back control of society, this is what we're stuck with...... a broken system that thugs and criminals don't fear or respect, and we're the ones who pay for them to sit back in the air conditioning and watch ballgames on tv while we support them.
Sorry for the rant. I'll get off my soapbox now.
Went to school with his wife. He settled down in this area.

I also know all about the lax prison system, it’s ridiculous. Grown men not forced to do anything, and set around and watch TV, do drugs, and eat food. Guy who committed sex acts or violent crimes with only a few years while those who committed some victimless crimes having many years.
 
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In my opinion the two most dangerous jobs in NC are a Wildlife officer and a Highway Patrol officer.

As some of you may remember, we lost a young Trooper here in WNC a while back, Shawn Blanton G-540 here's a link to him page
http://www.odmp.org/officer/19429-trooper-david-shawn-blanton-jr

He pulled over a guy on Interstate 40 for a taillight, the perp was able to get Shawn's firearm from him and shot him point blank range down from the collar bone into his chest cavity, he stuck the firearm in behind the officers vest and pulled the trigger while the officer was on his knees begging for his life and explaining that his wife was in the hospital from the birth of their first child and (I think) his child was in the NICU unit.
He killed him anyway. The guy got life in prison.
Someone needs to push for the death penalty for killing a Patrolman, especially this latest one. Maybe word would get out that you kill, we kill. This would be more powerful than two officers to a vehicle.
There is a small memorial on the side of Interstate 40 where Blanton was killed. If you pass by there it is In front of and on the same side of the interstate as Ken Wilson Ford.

Another Patrolman was struck by a tractor trailer while making a traffic stop just down the road on I40, G-533, Greg Cogdill, here is his link. There is a small memorial to Cogdill on the side of I40 just a little ways from Blanton's but on the opposite side of the highway. The guy that ran over him got 45days and credit for time served.
http://www.odmp.org/officer/16875-senior-trooper-anthony-greg-cogdill.

A dangerous job. You have to have respect for people who are willing to do this job with little or remote support.
 
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Unfortunate criminals serve months instead of years for discharging a firearm at vehicles.

Agree that there should be no life sentences for murdering any law enforcement officer,
if you decide to do that then you just forfeited your own life.
 
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In my opinion the two most dangerous jobs in NC are a Wildlife officer and a Highway Patrol officer.

As some of you may remember, we lost a young Trooper here in WNC a while back, Shawn Blanton G-540 here's a link to him page
http://www.odmp.org/officer/19429-trooper-david-shawn-blanton-jr

He pulled over a guy on Interstate 40 for a taillight, the perp was able to get Shawn's firearm from him and shot him point blank range down from the collar bone into his chest cavity, he stuck the firearm in behind the officers vest and pulled the trigger while the officer was on his knees begging for his life and explaining that his wife was in the hospital from the birth of their first child and (I think) his child was in the NICU unit.
He killed him anyway. The guy got life in prison.
Someone needs to push for the death penalty for killing a Patrolman, especially this latest one. Maybe word would get out that you kill, we kill. This would be more powerful than two officers to a vehicle.
There is a small memorial on the side of Interstate 40 where Blanton was killed. If you pass by there it is In front of and on the same side of the interstate as Ken Wilson Ford.

Another Patrolman was struck by a tractor trailer while making a traffic stop just down the road on I40, G-533, Greg Cogdill, here is his link. There is a small memorial to Cogdill on the side of I40 just a little ways from Blanton's but on the opposite side of the highway. The guy that ran over him got 45days and credit for time served.
http://www.odmp.org/officer/16875-senior-trooper-anthony-greg-cogdill.

A dangerous job. You have to have respect for people who are willing to do this job with little or remote support.
Working in State Prisons is dangerous also, the Corrections Officers are the forgotten ones. 6 killed in NC in the last 2 years, assaults everyday. Most don’t live past there 60’s after retirement. High stress, highest rate of divorce, ptsd, ect.

A stab vest that I paid for saved me one day. I was lucky, just walked away with just a concussion after an attempt on my life. Takes a special individual to take charge of a few hundred violent criminals by yourself because it’s so short staffed, with no firearms, in order to keep the public safe from them. Seems like some do everything everything can to suppress what goes on inside prisons from being public.
 
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Everyday I work. There are more troopers that are nice and professional than any other department.

I'm batting 50% on the NC Trooper thing. One guy was sociable and friendly. The other guy must have had a fight with his wife that day. He had a bad attitude. But he did only give me a warning for flying through that 55 zone at 57. :confused: So I guess he wasn't all bad. When he walked away my daughter, who was still in a car seat at the time so maybe 3-4, said Daddy he is a mean policeman. I had to explain to her that police are like everybody else. Good and bad, with good and bad days. Looking back, at least he didn't shoot me. :eek:

Hands up, don't shoot! :D
 
We have 10 LE agencies in our county. 10. There are more Horry County officers than there are Texas Rangers. I don't know if 2 to the car is the answer. I know what they are doing isn't working here. I tend to think it is more an indictment of the populace than the Poleeece. Sorry for rambling, I just can't shake how useless this excuse for a human was out to start with.
 
We have 10 LE agencies in our county. 10. There are more Horry County officers than there are Texas Rangers. I don't know if 2 to the car is the answer. I know what they are doing isn't working here. I tend to think it is more an indictment of the populace than the Poleeece. Sorry for rambling, I just can't shake how useless this excuse for a human was out to start with.
I know a few in Horry also. I’m on the state line, actually spend as much time in SC as NC.

Yeah sort of redundant to have a Sheriff Department and County Police, two separate departments. The Sheriff at least has to answer to the citizens every 4 years if the voters aren’t pleased with the job.

I just can’t believe this thug was on the street. Should have been locked up for a long time after just shooting at someone in a car. Sometimes the police do their job, and the judicial system fails afterward. The failure costed a family their father/ husband. Whoever gave this guy probation for shooting at someone in a car, needs a different job.
 
Huge turnout of several thousand people for the funeral yesterday. Awesome showing of law enforcement personnel coming from states all over the Midwest, Southeast, and many of the states sent a number of their Highway Patrol cars in groups including the Georgia State Patrol.

My Sheriff asked me to attend with him and a few of the GSP parked in our section around our Tahoe patrol unit. The GSP guys were so respectful that I wanted to share a couple of their unit pics on here. @Geezer and @Bailey Boat

It was a very moving ceremony that was very organized and structured to honor the fallen trooper.

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It was great that a number of you have changed your avatars to honor this Columbus County State Trooper. It's much appreciated.
 
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