New Jersey enacting toughest gun laws on CCW

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dmarbell said:
I have an idea. Why not pass a law that says it's illegal to use a gun in a crime. Won't that stop the criminals in their tracks?
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I mean I guess it’s to much to ask them to just Enforce the ones on the books and lock up and keep criminals in jail.
 
Obviously that state is occupied by a foreign enemy force. Perhaps the free states should muster the militias and go liberate the people?
 
Radar said:
I mean I guess it’s to much to ask them to just Enforce the ones on the books and lock up and keep criminals in jail.
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This is the biggest problem we have today, whether it's gun related or anything else. I understand time marches on, things change, etc. but after 250 years you would think that for the most part we've got most any type of crime covered with an existing law. So just enforce them.

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Button Pusher said:
NJ citizens have NO RIGHT to self defense, period. CCW is virtually impossible to obtain unless you are well connected or a huge donor.
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In NJ, you have a duty to retreat even in your own home!

I knew of one guy in NJ with a CCW, owned two small businesses plus was an FFL and he wouldn’t say how he got it. I’d heard the only way was to pay off convince a police chief and judge.
 
Button Pusher said:
NJ citizens have NO RIGHT to self defense, period. CCW is virtually impossible to obtain unless you are well connected or a huge donor.
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The license may be impossible to obtain, but the act of carrying a concealed handgun is super easy to do.
 
Ikarus1 said:
the SCOTUS decisions since Heller and lastly Bruen disagree with them.
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They can do what they want until someone forces them to comply. SCOTUS can go make em and we know the Government won’t and no alphabet Agency will either. So that only leaves a few good citizens in NJ to do it. Not likely.
 
Ikarus1 said:
the SCOTUS decisions since Heller and lastly Bruen disagree with them.
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I realize that Ca., NY, and NJ as states are alot more powerful than a single individual can ever be, BUT if States are ignoring the Law, does that not send a signal to individuals that THEY can ignore the law...........................it does to me.
 
dmarbell said:
Maybe they should add this phrase to the laws? "...and this time we really, really mean it."
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Or just double dog dare them to break them…just one more time…you’ll see…we really, really mean it guys…c’mon, man!
 
I cannot see how this would be consistent with Bruen so I expect today's SCOTUS would eventually give them a smackdown. But Thomas is likely the next one to leave the Court.

But at some point, the good people of NJ are going to have to stop relying on the courts to do what they could do themselves at the ballot box.
 
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