Nick Sandmann now sues NBC

Good, hope he wins so much money from these media companies. They tarnished his (and others with his same name!) name and, possibly, but a damper on his future with their extremely biased 'news.'
Kid was painted in such a bad light for no reason other than the dang HAT he was wearing.

I hope he wins.

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That said, as I read the end of the article I could see the top of the comments and this was exposed/at the top
"I am usually against frivolous lawsuits but since he is on my team I am gonna throw my convictions out the window and support the cause, principles be damned"

I disagree with this. Dont toss your convictions because "he is on my team" or some nonsense. If that's how you are then you really had no principles to begin with.
 
PS - was just up there. I thought about this as I was sitting on the little bench beside the base of the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. It was night (about 9) and I thought about this kid and how he was there just like I was - school trip, having a great time. How he and his friends were just standing around and this guy came up to him and ruined his life, as least for a short (?) time.
Screw that, screw the media for hurting an innocent child like that.
 
Frivolous is when no one was really hurt, or it's your own fault, and you sue anyway. The media was derelict in the duty to vet this story. They were negligent in reporting it wrong and then doubling down. And they tried to destroy a kid to further an ideological agenda they claim they don't operate under. He did nothing. And they turned it into something for their own good.

They are used to doing this and getting away with it because public figures really can't be liabled and sue. But minors cannot be treated like other public figures. And he wasn't a public figure either.
 
True journalism is all but dead. Objectively reporting the facts has "gone the way of the dodo." The majority of what passes for "news" is nothing but agenda-driven BS, no matter the political stripe. The media scoops it up on a spoon as though it came outta a Gerber jar, makes airplane noises or what-not and attempts to force-feed it to the public....

"Here...eat this...this is good for ya."

It's one of the main reasons you see independent thinking discouraged...

"Hey...you're telling me this is pureed peaches, but it smells and tastes an awfully lot like sh*t, so I ain't eating it."
 
wsfiredude said:
True journalism is all but dead. Objectively reporting the facts has "gone the way of the dodo." The majority of what passes for "news" is nothing but agenda-driven BS, no matter the political stripe. The media scoops it up on a spoon as though it came outta a Gerber jar, makes airplane noises or what-not and attempts to force-feed it to the public....
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A ham radio friend was saying one morning that he keeps the CNN and FOX apps on his phone and likes to compare the spin that both agencies put on when reporting on the same event. He said it’s eye opening.
 
MochaJoe said:
. The media should "pay" for being sensationalist jagweeds, perhaps with exuberant fines, but this kid does not deserve a possible million dollar check in my opinion.
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That is exactly what the lawsuit will being doing. The kid gets the "fine" monies, not the government. The government was not wronged nor harmed in anyway.
 
concepthomes1 said:
Did someone delete some of the posts that were quoted?

Darn it. I like to see opposing views being debated.

That said, I hope he bankrupts all of them.

That also being said, it'd be a crazy turn of events if it goes this way:

He wins ALL lawsuits and banks sizable judgments
The media conglomerates run to their elected (paid off) reps and senators
Sleazy politicians introduce bailout legislation to shore up these companies since according to their own assessment "they are the voice of America"
Taxpayers potentially get put on the hook and all out rebellion happens (hopefully)
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the amounts of money being sued for will only be a drop in the bucket. no way in hell will it even come close to be damaging to the media conglomerates.
those figures look to be so that out of court settlements will be a walk in the park
 
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Is there a spreadsheet or something that I can use to calculate a lawsuit amount? Just curious where $275M comes from. More interesting is the lesser $250M to the other company.
 
It is actually pretty brilliant on his end, as well as his lawyers.

He was, in fact, slandered, and that is pretty easy to be proven. His name and face are now recognizable and it can have a direct impact on his future education and career. So convincing a judge that he was "harmed" by the medias reporting will be pretty easy. So what I predict will happen, as mentioned above, is that the media outlets will offer him a fraction of that to go away...somewhere in the tune of 5-10 million (but we will never know the amount). But the 10+ million this kid ends up with will set him up for life, he will go down as exonerated for whatever actions people still may believe he was responsible for, and the media outlets get a black eye as opposed to a full blown butt beating.
 
9outof10mms said:
Is there a spreadsheet or something that I can use to calculate a lawsuit amount? Just curious where $275M comes from. More interesting is the lesser $250M to the other company.
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This was my question, too.

Why did WaPo get a $25MM break?

If I were the victim of this media slander, I would make a condition of any settlement a 2-minute minimim admission of guilt and apology, beginning every broadcast by each network, read in turn by any talking head that participated in the slander (i.e. each public face of the lie), until every one of them had had their turn on air admiiting guilt and apologizing.

Otherwise, no settlement, see ya in court.
 
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B00ger said:
So what I predict will happen, as mentioned above, is that the media outlets will offer him a fraction of that to go away...somewhere in the tune of 5-10 million (but we will never know the amount).
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$5-10M would probably be serious enough for a person or three to get fired over, but not enough to get those conglomerates to change their behavior.
 
I'm still a noobie but this is my first experience with disappearing posts???? Anyway, I Pray for his success. Sicem!!!
 
Windini said:
If I were the victim of this media slander, I would make a condition of any settlement a 2-minute minimim admission of guilt and apology, beginning every broadcast by each network, read in turn by any talking head that participated in the slander (i.e. each public face of the lie), until every one of them had had their turn on air admiiting guilt and apologizing.
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I'd absolutely lay that out as an "easy out" settlement. $275M in court, or a $1M settlement (plus legal fees) and the 2-minute apologies. Your pick.
 
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concepthomes1 said:
That also being said, it'd be a crazy turn of events if it goes this way:

He wins ALL lawsuits and banks sizable judgments
The media conglomerates run to their elected (paid off) reps and senators
Sleazy politicians introduce bailout legislation to shore up these companies since according to their own assessment "they are the voice of America"
Taxpayers potentially get put on the hook and an all out rebellion happens (hopefully)
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Win or lose, that's going to happen anyway...

It's inevitable.
 
9outof10mms said:
I'd absolutely lay that out as an "easy out" settlement. $275M in court, or a $1M settlement (plus legal fees) and the 2-minute apologies. Your pick.
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For better or worse, not how the system works. The attorneys get a percentage and it’s hard to give them a percentage of an apology until after the cash negotiations. The way it would go down is that the lawyers would get you a $10mm offer, you’d tell them that you reject it and ask them to counter with $1mm and an apology, your lawyers say fine but you’ll have to pay them the 30% or 40% of the $9mm value of the apology. You say wtf? They say see our agreement. You say we’re going to court. Lawyers say they need to get paid something substantial in advance. You mortgage the house to pay them. The media makes the trial run 25 years. You are bankrupt. You settle for $100k.
 
JimB said:
For better or worse, not how the system works. The attorneys get a percentage and it’s hard to give them a percentage of an apology until after the cash negotiations. The way it would go down is that the lawyers would get you a $10mm offer, you’d tell them that you reject it and ask them to counter with $1mm and an apology, your lawyers say fine but you’ll have to pay them the 30% or 40% of the $9mm value of the apology. You say wtf? They say see our agreement. You say we’re going to court. Lawyers say they need to get paid something substantial in advance. You mortgage the house to pay them. The media makes the trial run 25 years. You are bankrupt. You settle for $100k.
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That sounds not made up. Lawyers negotiating gor their own benefit over the client... i can see that.
 
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Don't forget that this isn't Lin Woods first rodeo. He is good at what he does.


CD
 
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According to Sol Rosenberg, you should sue everybody:


PS: If you don't find that bit funny, we are not friends and I do not like you. No offense.
 
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BU2scwMJL said:
He should sue everyone, no settlements. Go to court with everybody.
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I gotta tell you from experience, in this state at least (NC) if someone offers you cash as a settlement, by all means take it. Otherwise you can take it to court at great expense to get a worthless piece of paper that says, I owe you a lot.
 
noway2 said:
I gotta tell you from experience, in this state at least (NC) if someone offers you cash as a settlement, by all means take it. Otherwise you can take it to court at great expense to get a worthless piece of paper that says, I owe you a lot.
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Divorce works that way here too, damn "equitable distribution"... When I went to my divorce hearing I watched a guy lose everything
 
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