NRA Backed SHARE Act Passes Committee

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  1. Amp Mangum

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    Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting and I hate when the two are intermingled. It undermines the 2nd.
     
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    Is this THE Hearing Protection Act we're all waiting for?
     
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    Lots of good stuff in this bill including HPA.
     
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    yes, and access to public lands for hunting, fishing, and recreational shooting
     
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    I agree that hunting and the 2nd-A being intermingled is not a good approach. This bill looks like it mostly addresses (gun) hunting issues, including ones that strengthen the 2nd overall, such as eliminating the "sporting" provision / requirement for ammunition. It also included the hearing protection act, getting rid of the prohibition on suppressors if I'm reading it right:
     
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    If I remember correctly previous other Sportsman Heritage Act bills usually get some "environmentalists" hate but have had excellent success passing ... this one will be very interesting. Kinda ironic that House Majority Leader McCarthy is from California but a Conservationist and conservative who's district has leaned Republican the last 2 presidential elections. I can't see him not getting Ryan to bring this before the House ... getting the votes to pass is another thing. If it makes Senate McConnell should be good with but again getting the votes ... especially those needed from Dummicrats crossing lines is not going to be easy.

    I wish all those less informed could see the real truth about suppressors are NOT silencers ... just a muffler like on a car.
     
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    They rolled it into a Sportsmans bill because mod Dems can't vote against sportsman bills. Or at least don't have a history of it. Great idea IMO. Even if hunting and 2A are only marginally related I do feel they go hand in hand. I just don't feel it's the exclusive reason for it by any means. I like to hunt, and I like to hunt with guns. It's one of the reasons I own them.
     
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    Sounds like to me that there's something in there for everyone. Ranges on public land (BLM) (and I don't mean Black Lives Matter) If any of you guys have lived out west you know that almost any open land is BLM controlled so I read this as a very good thing for hunters, fishermen AND shooters. I'll agree there's not much in there for the self defense/2A crowd but we have to take back our rights, one brick at a time, the same way they were taken away....
     
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    BB it's does help the 2A in that bill includes a strengthening of the Firearms Owners Protection Act the try and help honest gun owners traveling thru enemy territory not get screwed.
     
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    The act that actually diminished our Second Amendment-protected Rights?
     
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    But, but, but...it has "protection" right there in the name!! :eek:
     
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    Ome of the biggest threats to this bill's passage is probably the delisting of wolves. It's been a long fight with eco-warriors and they always try to pull some technicality to prevent it from going through.
     
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    Yeah, but from my point of view delisting wolves is not something I would go to the mat over. Now, if I was a rancher in Montana I might feel different, but the wolves have nothing to do with 2nd amendment rights. If they have to negotiate that away to get the rest passed, well, I suspect there will be a lot of ranchers in Montana with suppressors.
     
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    Removing the suppressor infringement is a big positive for the 2A.
     
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    If it expands and clarifies the safe passage part that will be good.

    If it reverses the de listing of new machine guns that would be better. :D Yeah, probably not.
     
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    Removal of the ammo sporting provision is good too because it has been used as a tool by the ATF to try to inflict defacto "bans" on things libruls don't like.
     
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    Army CoE land is a big deal here in the Triangle. Currently, Falls Lake, Jordan Lake, and Kerr Lake are gun-free zones, including those state parks, because they are built on land owned by CoE.
     
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    I'm excited but quite skeptical at the same time.

    Rather ironic and quite unfortunate that this gets moving yesterday and we had another school shooting.
     
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    I have an idea! Since we have a Republican led House and Senate and Trump as President why don't they just pass a bill that sells a whole bunch of that private land back to private people? Heck, maybe sell some to people that want to start businesses and build gun ranges. Then we won't need to beg permission from whatever jerk is in power to use the land. And the proceeds can be used for Hillary's, Comey's and Lynch's trials.
     
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    I don't disagree. Just commenting on the current state of the bill.
     
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    Damn, you guys are no fun. Guess I need to wait for Friday night
     
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    Oh, I know. You were making a good point about how things can get sidetracked in the legislative process. It really is a "don't count your chickens" situation.
     

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