NZ Mass Casualty Event.

noway2 said:
@drypowder would tell you that eventually their (whites) survival instinct will kick in. When that happens, the non white population is going to get clobbered and it will be a situation that will have to burn itself out in spectacular fashion. It wouldn’t surprise me if at the end of it to see Islam being as common as paganism.

The whites are under no obligation to tolerate the influx of invaders, despite what their supposedly elected leaders (who benefit from it) want. Similarly, we’re under zero obligation to put up with a bunch of south of the border savages here in our home. History has shown time and again that when you put different racial and cultural groups in close proximity and try to force diversity upon them, conflict results.
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I seem to remember a story of the Romans, pressured by women and their more ‘enlightened’ citizens letting the poor women and child Ostrogoths across the Danube.

How did that work out for Rome?
 
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I seem to remember a story of the Romans, pressured by women and their more ‘enlightened’ citizens letting the poor women and child Ostrogoths across the Danube.

How did that work out for Rome?
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About as well as befriending moslems worked out for the Lebanese in the 70s.

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noway2 said:
@drypowder would tell you that eventually their (whites) survival instinct will kick in. When that happens, the non white population is going to get clobbered and it will be a situation that will have to burn itself out in spectacular fashion. It wouldn’t surprise me if at the end of it to see Islam being as common as paganism.

The whites are under no obligation to tolerate the influx of invaders, despite what their supposedly elected leaders (who benefit from it) want. Similarly, we’re under zero obligation to put up with a bunch of south of the border savages here in our home. History has shown time and again that when you put different racial and cultural groups in close proximity and try to force diversity upon them, conflict results.
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I just don't know if I can get behind this "the whites" thing. Freedom and liberty do not have to be exclusive to white populations; hell, many of them actively oppose it. - Why can't we simply get behind the Christian faith, support our Constitution, and the freedom of man, and call it good?

The white folk certainly started this grand experiment, but that doesn't mean we can't share it with other races. - Cultures that oppose us and our way of life are the problem, I don't see race factoring in here.

I don't hate other races, I just hate shitty cultures. - If you're pro-freedom and liberty, come on in, man. (although I'm okay with sealing the borders right now)
 
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Watched the video a few times. And.... I don't really care. I could probably type out a paragraph or 5 as to why, but not going to put the effort in just to have some members here chastise me for my view. Well, at least not till being prodded a few dozen time anyway.
 
grungewehr39 said:
Watched the video a few times. And.... I don't really care. I could probably type out a paragraph or 5 as to why, but not going to put the effort in just to have some members here chastise me for my view. Well, at least not till being prodded a few dozen time anyway.
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Come on grunge, tell us how you feel. :D
 
IrishCannon said:
I don't hate other races, I just hate shitty cultures. - If you're pro-freedom and liberty, come on in, man. (although I'm okay with sealing the borders right now)
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I believe this is key. There is a difference between race and culture, and while most can/do look past race, they do not look past culture. Especially 'shitty' cultures, who wants to associate with people who don't like you, don't share your values and/or want to kill you because you don't believe what they tell you to believe?

Back in CA, almost none of my friends were technically "white". They looked Asian, Hispanic, whatever, but their culture was American. Not "hyphenated American", but just Americans. Race was irrelevant, culture is what brought us together.

I'm a very strong culturalist. Cultures are not created equal, some are crap and should not be tolerated here.
 
Jayne said:
I believe this is key. There is a difference between race and culture, and while most can/do look past race, they do not look past culture. Especially 'shitty' cultures, who wants to associate with people who don't like you, don't share your values and/or want to kill you because you don't believe what they tell you to believe?

Back in CA, almost none of my friends were technically "white". They looked Asian, Hispanic, whatever, but their culture was American. Not "hyphenated American", but just Americans. Race was irrelevant, culture is what brought us together.

I'm a very strong culturalist. Cultures are not created equal, some are crap and should not be tolerated here.
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We had a thead related to this somewhere months ago. A now banned member focused more on race. I commented that to me there is a difference between a black person born and raised in NC vs one born and raised in Mogadishu. Just as there is a difference between a white NC native and a white Swedish native. I have a lot more in common with the black NC guy than I do with the white Swedish guy.
 
IrishCannon said:
I just don't know if I can get behind this "the whites" thing. Freedom and liberty do not have to be exclusive to white populations; hell, many of them actively oppose it. - Why can't we simply get behind the Christian faith, support our Constitution, and the freedom of man, and call it good?

The white folk certainly started this grand experiment, but that doesn't mean we can't share it with other races. - Cultures that oppose us and our way of life are the problem, I don't see race factoring in here.

I don't hate other races, I just hate shitty cultures. - If you're pro-freedom and liberty, come on in, man. (although I'm okay with sealing the borders right now)
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Your comment assumes that race, and as an extension thereof, genetics, and culture are totally independent factors.

What if that assumption is incorrect?

On what evidence are you basing this assumption?
 
drypowder said:
Your comment assumes that race, and as an extension thereof, genetics, and culture are totally independent factors.

What if that assumption is incorrect?

On what evidence are you basing this assumption?
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I see people more as individuals than a collective. Genetics and race are two different things; race encompasses some genetic material, but not individual identity.

You could say pakistanis are retarded, but would that come down to their race or the fact they reproduce with their first cousins?

Culture is the biggest factor.

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I personally don't see the problem with a huge number of people that share western values and ideals having a country free from infestation by "cultures" intent on violence, corruption, sponging off taxpayers, conquering infidels and building mosques, and/or the general disrespect/mistreatment of people. I can't figure out how we came to this conclusion that we have to take these cultures in. Why do we have to tolerate enemies to our western way of life any more than we should have to tolerate a tyrannical government coming to seize our guns? For example, who would have thought that we would have large populations of people trying to implement sharia law or electing radical muslims to congress in our own country.

I am surprised there hasn't been more backlash against the mass muslim migration in Europe (or here for that matter) but I am going to guess most of the Europeans are too busy typing on message boards what they will do if SHTF like we are.
 
SC380 said:
I personally don't see the problem with a huge number of people that share western values and ideals having a country free from infestation by "cultures" intent on violence, corruption, sponging off taxpayers, conquering infidels and building mosques, and/or the general disrespect/mistreatment of people. I can't figure out how we came to this conclusion that we have to take these cultures in. Why do we have to tolerate enemies to our western way of life any more than we should have to tolerate a tyrannical government coming to seize our guns? For example, who would have thought that we would have large populations of people trying to implement sharia law or electing radical muslims to congress in our own country.

I am surprised there hasn't been more backlash against the mass muslim migration in Europe (or here for that matter) but I am going to guess most of the Europeans are too busy typing on message boards what they will do if SHTF like we are.
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There is backlash, just like here in the States, but the EU has too tight a grip on the people for them to do much about it.

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IrishCannon said:
I see people more as individuals than a collective. Genetics and race are two different things; race encompasses some genetic material, but not individual identity.

You could say pakistanis are retarded, but would that come down to their race or the fact they reproduce with their first cousins?

Culture is the biggest factor.

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So do you think the only biological differences between races are superficial features such as skin color, hair texture, eye color, etc.? Or do you think the biological differences run deeper than this?
 
Christ said "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesars and render unto God that which is Gods."
Mohammad said "They have no helper other than him, and He makes none to share in His decision and his rule."

Christians are to support and take part in their governing bodies.
Muslims are to have their Quran be the only governing body.

Sure, Muslims can claim absolute loyalty to a secular government. And Christians can be alcoholics, child abusers, thieves, murderers, and apparently homosexual.
 
drypowder said:
So do you think the only biological differences between races are superficial features such as skin color, hair texture, eye color, etc.? Or do you think the biological differences run deeper than this?
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Deeper than that for sure, but I don't look down on individuals based on genetic superiority. - Different races are genetically built to be better at some things than others. We all have a purpose.
 
I think I know a middle eastern girl who is just about the whitest / "most basic" chick I've ever known in my entire life (and she's a dear friend).

I also have white acquaintances who are the most retarded / liberal muslim enablers you'll find in NC.

Both are products of their environment-
 
called on the international community to rely less on security measures and more on soft power and development initiatives to combat violent extremism.

How about we use BIGGER bombs???
 
drypowder said:
So then how can you possibly assume that culture is independent of race?
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There are a lot of freedom loving Hispanics. There are a lot of freedom loving Eastern Europeans. There are a lot of freedom loving Africans. There are a lot of freedom loving Asians.

Does this really need explaining?

People can choose their culture; they can't choose their race.

Our ancestors chose freedom and liberty; many from other backgrounds have done the same.

Why is this so hard to grasp?

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IrishCannon said:
There are a lot of freedom loving Hispanics. There are a lot of freedom loving Eastern Europeans. There are a lot of freedom loving Africans. There are a lot of freedom loving Asians.
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Go into a major city, and drive around. You'll see lots of different groups self segregated by race in different parts. I guarantee you there are big differences in the cultures of those groups that extend far beyond freedom or even what is meant by freedom, and whether or not they even have freedom. Whether or not you believe those differences are biological or social (I do believe there is a biological component that at least contributes a predisposition) they still exist.
 
noway2 said:
Go into a major city, and drive around. You'll see lots of different groups self segregated by race in different parts. I guarantee you there are big differences in the cultures of those groups that extend far beyond freedom or even what is meant by freedom, and whether or not they even have freedom. Whether or not you believe those differences are biological or social (I do believe there is a biological component that at least contributes a predisposition) they still exist.
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Ya, I get it, but they still made that choice. - Ultimately, that's just tribalism, and it will always be around.

I grew up around very segregated areas - Irish, Polish, Italian...then moved in the moslems.

Collectively, yes, race is largely connected to culture, but they are not exclusive to each other. - I'm Irish, but reject Catholicism, a huge part of Irish culture.

Dinesh D'Souza would be a prime example of what I'm talking about.

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I see all these headlines proclaiming that NZ has banned this and that, but when I read the details, it doesn't look like they've even drafted the legislation yet. The PM is making a lot of proclamations, but I wonder what the Representatives are thinking.
 
DavesBuddysNeighbor said:
I see all these headlines proclaiming that NZ has banned this and that, but when I read the details, it doesn't look like they've even drafted the legislation yet. The PM is making a lot of proclamations, but I wonder what the Representatives are thinking.
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I think the representatives will tow the line. The labor party aka the socialist democrats (as opposed to Bernie’s democratic socialists) hold the majority and we know the MO for the socialists.
 
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I think the representatives will tow the line. The labor party aka the socialist democrats (as opposed to Bernie’s democratic socialists) hold the majority and we know the MO for the socialists.
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Ya I have no reservations that there will be little to no pushback.

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