Opinions on Glock aftermarket triggers

RetiredUSNChief said:
I'm a "professional contrarian", too.

But seriously...what's the deal with replacing "Glock perfection" with another trigger that functions the same way, with a "safety" that isn't actually a safety?

Seems to me that if one is going to replace the trigger on a Glock, they ought to replace it with one that doesn't have that fancy bit of engineering that doesn't actually perform any useful function.

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Completely clueless to custom triggers? Not a trigger snob?

The stock trigger works. Thats it. Nothing special and sucks actually.

Huge differences in the take up, break and reset, pull pressure rates.
 
Starkherz199 said:
Great info. Is there any problem with the trigger safety dingus not engaging?
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No. when it's "on" the trigger won't move, but when depressed it doesn't hang up or interfere. The interface between your finger and the trigger safety feels very good and there's no vague mushy crap.
I'm kinda with @RetiredUSNChief on the trigger safety. If I had the choice I might have asked that it just be omitted. But at the same time, it kind of acts like a two-stage rifle trigger. Once that 'first-stage' trigger safety is depressed, be ready because right after that it's gonna fire, and I do use it like that.
 
Friday said:
No. when it's "on" the trigger won't move, but when depressed it doesn't hang up or interfere. The interface between your finger and the trigger safety feels very good and there's no vague mushy crap.
I'm kinda with @RetiredUSNChief on the trigger safety. If I had the choice I might have asked that it just be omitted. But at the same time, it kind of acts like a two-stage rifle trigger. Once that 'first-stage' trigger safety is depressed, be ready because right after that it's gonna fire, and I do use it like that.
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While I don't have a USPSA rulebook in front of me, I believe that modifications that remove or alter the Glock trigger safety so that it doesn't work prohibit it from Production class in USPSA.
 
Starkherz199 said:
While I don't have a USPSA rulebook in front of me, I believe that modifications that remove or alter the Glock trigger safety so that it doesn't work prohibit it from Production class in USPSA.
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Correct
I believe 5.1.4 , 5.1.6 and 8.1.2.4 would all apply
 
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Starkherz199 said:
While I don't have a USPSA rulebook in front of me, I believe that modifications that remove or alter the Glock trigger safety so that it doesn't work prohibit it from Production class in USPSA.
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That's a good thought. Probably legal ramifications also; There was no safety and I shot my foot!
 
RetiredUSNChief said:
I'm a "professional contrarian", too.

But seriously...what's the deal with replacing "Glock perfection" with another trigger that functions the same way, with a "safety" that isn't actually a safety?

Seems to me that if one is going to replace the trigger on a Glock, they ought to replace it with one that doesn't have that fancy bit of engineering that doesn't actually perform any useful function.

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Some triggers cut it so close that if you change the connector it can cause the trigger safety to not come out far enough to work. And being that USPSA requires a lot of moving and running, that is where you see tumbles, falls, and dropped guns more than other places; drop safeties are a must.
 
Starkherz199 said:
Some triggers cut it so close that if you change the connector it can cause the trigger safety to not come out far enough to work. And being that USPSA requires a lot of moving and running, that is where you see tumbles, falls, and dropped guns more than other places; drop safeties are a must.
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Oh did I misunderstand there? I thought you were inquiring about the trigger safety. My bad.
I can't totally verify any potential problems with the drop safety. Fitment was spot on and didn't interfere or alter anything it shouldn't.
And I've never dropped it. :rolleyes:
Sorry. Best I can offer.
 
I've got one of the ghost spring and connector kits that I have yet to install. Supposed to just make the pull light and eliminate the bump that causes folks to pull (makes me pull down and left when I shoot). Maybe I'll try to install it today...
 
Friday said:
Oh did I misunderstand there? I thought you were inquiring about the trigger safety. My bad.
I can't totally verify any potential problems with the drop safety. Fitment was spot on and didn't interfere or alter anything it shouldn't.
And I've never dropped it. :rolleyes:
Sorry. Best I can offer.
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To clarify, as I don't know the name of the part, the little articulating dingus on the trigger. I've heard it called a drop safety, and a trigger safety.
 
Mike Overlay said:
Completely clueless to custom triggers? Not a trigger snob?

The stock trigger works. Thats it. Nothing special and sucks actually.

Huge differences in the take up, break and reset, pull pressure rates.
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Nope, not a trigger snob at all. Maybe that would change for me if I had some trigger time with some guns that had modified or changed out triggers. I might see the light, then.


Starkherz199 said:
Some triggers cut it so close that if you change the connector it can cause the trigger safety to not come out far enough to work. And being that USPSA requires a lot of moving and running, that is where you see tumbles, falls, and dropped guns more than other places; drop safeties are a must.
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OK, now I can see why someone would want to maintain the "trigger safety" feature, if they're intending to compete in USPSA, because of the rules.

HOWEVER...having looked up the Glock safety feature descriptions, and looking at diagrams/pictures of the internals, I was under the impression that the "trigger safety" didn't actually have anything to do with it being drop safe.

The firing pin is blocked by spring loaded firing pin safety, which is only moved into an unblocking position when pulling the trigger or racking the slide. Additionally, the trigger bar nominally rests on the drop safety shelf and does not move to expose the firing pin lug until the trigger is pulled (or the slide is racked).

One could argue that the trigger safety is what makes the gun drop safe, but a moving trigger isn't what causes non-drop safe semi automatic guns to go off when dropped in the first place. If you removed the "trigger safety", the Glock would STILL be drop safe.
 
I use Overwatch Precision and OEM connectors.

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RetiredUSNChief said:
Soooo...AR-15 platforms (and many other semi-auto rifles) are called "assault rifles". What about them?

The Colt SAA was called the "Peacemaker", does that make it off limits as well?

Magazines over 10 rounds in some jurisdictions are called "high capacity magazines". Are these off limits?

Hollowpoint bullets, and many other bullet designs and names, likewise have a stigma in certain circles. Are these off limits?

Don't get me wrong...I'm not in the least interested in this trigger. But we commonly accept many things, indeed we push for the acceptance of many things, that amount to nothing more than evil baby killers in some circles.
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You seriously think a high capacity magazine is the same as a "face shooter trigger"?

Go ahead and buy face shooter triggers all you want. I think it is retarded to name a product that. Its about as dumb as putting a "you're fuc^ed" dust cover on your duty rifle.
 
NKD said:
You seriously think a high capacity magazine is the same as a "face shooter trigger"?

Go ahead and buy face shooter triggers all you want. I think it is retarded to name a product that. Its about as dumb as putting a "you're fuc^ed" dust cover on your duty rifle.
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It's a saleing point for Gabe's IDGAF persona he has tried to create....
 
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I see that CMC now makes a Glock trigger. I love their AR triggers so hope they would be just as good. Anybody have one or try one that can provide feedback?
 
NKD said:
You seriously think a high capacity magazine is the same as a "face shooter trigger"?

Go ahead and buy face shooter triggers all you want. I think it is retarded to name a product that. Its about as dumb as putting a "you're fuc^ed" dust cover on your duty rifle.
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You'll note in my posting that these things are not about what "I" think.

Others in the pro-gun control agenda certainly DO think exactly this, however.
 
I just looked up the difference between the the Vogel and Edge triggers from GlockTriggers.com. I don't know how I missed it before, but the Edge seems to have all that the Vogel trigger has, PLUS a shorter pre-travel. On a Glock, that is a big deal. If I buy another, I will try the Edge, as it seems to address more of the inherent issues with Glock triggers.
 
Currently a "flash sale" on GlockTriggers.com. 10% off for 24 hrs.

You have go to love "cookies" and targeted advertising. You check out their triggers and leave and 10 minutes later a promotional email shows up. You can do the same thing leaving items in your cart on Midway USA by the way.
 
jmgdfther said:
I see that CMC now makes a Glock trigger. I love their AR triggers so hope they would be just as good. Anybody have one or try one that can provide feedback?
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I’m a fan of CMC triggers in my AR’s as well so I naturally looked at the CMC offerings for Glocks. My research wasn’t favorable at all! Lots of issues with them.
 
hlpressley said:
I’m a fan of CMC triggers in my AR’s as well so I naturally looked at the CMC offerings for Glocks. My research wasn’t favorable at all! Lots of issues with them.
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I have dry fired one, and wasn't really impressed. I love my AR ones, so maybe my expectations were too high, but I wouldn't drop the cash on one.
 
Charlie R said:
I just looked up the difference between the the Vogel and Edge triggers from GlockTriggers.com. I don't know how I missed it before, but the Edge seems to have all that the Vogel trigger has, PLUS a shorter pre-travel. On a Glock, that is a big deal. If I buy another, I will try the Edge, as it seems to address more of the inherent issues with Glock triggers.
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Its an awesome setup. If you are a serious glock shooter it is a must have!

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hlpressley said:
I’m a fan of CMC triggers in my AR’s as well so I naturally looked at the CMC offerings for Glocks. My research wasn’t favorable at all! Lots of issues with them.
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I bought one of the first CMC flat-shoe AR drop ins when they first came out. Here's how it worked-
Pull trigger..one thousand one, one thousand two..POW. Not good. Sent it back, they polished it up and it works ok to this day.
I bought another flat shoe from them for a new AR10 a few months ago. It's like it's from a different company. It's way better than the first edition in every way.
Methinks that perhaps CMC's first release's of a new product aren't the best ones they're gonna make.
 
Friday said:
I bought one of the first CMC flat-shoe AR drop ins when they first came out. Here's how it worked-
Pull trigger..one thousand one, one thousand two..POW. Not good. Sent it back, they polished it up and it works ok to this day.
I bought another flat shoe from them for a new AR10 a few months ago. It's like it's from a different company. It's way better than the first edition in every way.
Methinks that perhaps CMC's first release's of a new product aren't the best ones they're gonna make.
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I had an AR flat that was terrific! But got another one and it sucks! It breaks nicely, but then the reset is funky and it barely resets much further forward than it breaks.
Emailed cmc and they were very friendly, but told me to get any oil off trigger and grease it with moly grease and retry it.
They did say if I still didn’t like it they’d send a new one. Just about to email them back, because I never used oil and only used moly grease on it to begin with!
 
RetiredUSNChief said:
You'll note in my posting that these things are not about what "I" think.

Others in the pro-gun control agenda certainly DO think exactly this, however.
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Actually after thinking about this a bit, I think the anti-gun people actually think we are a bunch of dumb rednecks who all want to be “gunfighting faceshooters”.
 
Exile_D said:
They still make trigger upgrades for old Gen 2 glocks? I have a 17 that could use some help in the trigger department.
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Many of these companies put Gen 1-3 in the same category , so yes you'll find plenty available .
 
Charlie R said:
Currently a "flash sale" on GlockTriggers.com. 10% off for 24 hrs.

You have go to love "cookies" and targeted advertising. You check out their triggers and leave and 10 minutes later a promotional email shows up. You can do the same thing leaving items in your cart on Midway USA by the way.
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I do this all the time. I'll create an account (so they have my e-mail address), make my cart, and leave the site. Usually within 24 hours, you'll get an e-mail with a code for free shipping, and/or at least 10-15% off. Almost every site these days offers it. FYI, Safariland will offer free shipping if you do this.
 
I got a Apex kit for a G19 (trigger/connector/safety plunger). I hate the stock ridged pyramid trigger profile, it irritates my index finger pad. I do like the feel of the apex trigger. There was some improvement in trigger pull and reset. Don't expect the glock kit to be anywhere near what you would expect with the M&P forward set sear and trigger kit, it's not even close. YMMV
 
I just dropped the Apex kit into my new Gen 5 34. It’s an improvement, but it still needs some work to be good. I have some springs coming that I hope will help. Also plan to do a little polishing as well.
 
88Mustang said:
I got a Apex kit for a G19 (trigger/connector/safety plunger). I hate the stock ridged pyramid trigger profile, it irritates my index finger pad. I do like the feel of the apex trigger. There was some improvement in trigger pull and reset. Don't expect the glock kit to be anywhere near what you would expect with the M&P forward set sear and trigger kit, it's not even close. YMMV
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Didn't happen to gauge the before and after trigger pull by chance?
 
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