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Olive drab is in the works.
Origin USA is in NC now
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Olive drab is in the works.
It looks like nice stuff, but you’re 100% paying a premium for the name/“lifestyle”
Give me the same quality at 1/3-1/2 the price (without the branding is fine with me) and I’m in. I’m fine with paying a reasonable markup for quality and made in the USA. When you can get good quality (non domestic) jeans for under $30, and similar pricing for a heavy duty hoodie, with a normal hoodie for $15-20ish…they’ve priced out many.
Give me the same quality at 1/3-1/2 the price (without the branding is fine with me) and I’m in. I’m fine with paying a reasonable markup for quality and made in the USA. When you can get good quality (non domestic) jeans for under $30, and similar pricing for a heavy duty hoodie, with a normal hoodie for $15-20ish…they’ve priced out many.
IrishCannon
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Where in the hell are you getting quality, US made jeans and hoodies for $30?
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If this is directed towards my comment above, I specifically said “non domestic” meaning not made in the USA.
However, I’ve been looking into these, and they will likely be the next ones I try out. 100% made in the USA, even if they are made in a “commie” city (Portland, OR)
https://www.prisonblues.net/
Jeans for $36, hoodies for under $30.
Honestly, without the “brand” the origin jeans are a $40-60 pair of jeans quality and materials wise. And I’d gladly pay that for them, assuming I could find a cut that I like.
Chuckman
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American sourced denim is $8-$12/yard. You can buy jeans for $12; may not be US-made. Kirkland is $15? Yeah, you can buy American made jeans for under $50.
So they're a lifestyle brand. Good for them. Clearly they have a market, and I sincerely, really hope they are super successful. But just like I'm not s Tesla guy, I'm not an Origin guy.
IrishCannon
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You really do get what you pay for in jeans. I'd rather spend $150 on a pair of jeans that last me a decade than $30 on a pair that lasts 6 mo and is made in a slave factory.
That said, I don't like any of the Origin jeans I'm seeing, but I support what the company is doing. There is more to this than denim.
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That said, I don't like any of the Origin jeans I'm seeing, but I support what the company is doing. There is more to this than denim.
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OP
Oh boy. Not just made in the USA. All materials sourced in the USA mostly from military contract companies.
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Let's be honest, the business model of a state run department of corrections manufacturing facility and a private for profit business are not really equal. They are on opposite ends of the spectrum. I can about guarantee the denim they are using is not made in the US. And the entire thing is subsidized by the taxpayers. Don't get me wrong, I like what they are doing too. But the entire price structure is skewed by the Gov covering parts of the cost of the business.
Chuckman
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I'm not going to start this as an argument, just as a question for you to ponder. Seriously.
What optic or optics do you use for your weapons? Do you use an iPhone? Do you use Apple products? Do you go to Walmart?
You see where I'm going with this. If you want to stand on jeans as the mountain to die on defending made in America products, that's fine. This very conversation is going on in the M4C thread regarding Holosun.
I think I've been pretty open, I'm glad that they have a plant here and employee North Carolinians. I'm glad that they have a breath of closing that people will buy which in turn will keep them in business and keep people employed, people of North Carolina. I have no beef with them, and I am a believer of capitalism and consumerism. I just want people to be careful when they start throwing out the "I only buy made in America" statement because most people say that and they really don't.
Edited to add, I really am NOT trying to be argumentative, and I am NOT downplaying what anyone buys doesn't buy (I might link that M4C thread here, those guys are nuts). Just having a discussion.
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Showing my age, but I use to joke that Realtree camo was the Tommy Hilfiguer brand for hunters. Is this going to be the new "in style" hunting gear?
Also on the price- some folks buy S&W revolvers and some buy Taurus.... they both go bang, but one might do it better/ longer than the other
Chuckman
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Kirkland (Costco) jeans, $15+/-. Made in Madagascar, a constitutional republic. I looked it up. This pair, I've had for...7 years.
Buy America, don't buy America, no sweat off my hair genitalia. I just want to point out that the choice is not binary, by in the USA or by from a slave labor communist country. Those are probably the two ends of the spectrum and there's a lot of room in between.
Buy America, don't buy America, no sweat off my hair genitalia. I just want to point out that the choice is not binary, by in the USA or by from a slave labor communist country. Those are probably the two ends of the spectrum and there's a lot of room in between.
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IrishCannon
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I think you're missing what I'm saying. I don't fault anyone for buying imported products, but as a country we need to become more independent in manufacturing and production, whether it be textiles or tech. I simply stated I support what Origin is doing as a company.
...and then I also said I don't like any of their jeans. - I certainly don't only buy American; I would if I found something I liked. As with optics, sometimes the imported stuff is just better, and American companies need to compete to get my business...I greatly want to support American companies, which is why I think what Origin is doing is really cool, but they still have to impress me.
I pretty much wear two brands: Lucky Jeans and 5.11. I think both are made either in Mexico, Indonesia or China. - Lucky is Origin prices and fits better. If Origin starts making the same types of fits, I'll buy theirs.
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Chuckman
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OK, fair enough, maybe I was missing what you were saying. That does happen to me when I read these things on my phone in the can at 0-dark-thirty. I will reread. My post stands, though, as a general dialogue about made-in-wherever, and why we do. I also started this thread for the same reason, because I am interested in why, and like to talk about these things: https://carolinafirearmsforum.com/i...merican-goods-vs-other-countrys-stuff.106642/
No idea of the source of their denim, but according to the pricing of American denim an earlier poster posted ($11-14 yd) I could see it being either way.
Another source of reasonably priced “100% made in the USA” Jeans
https://texasjeans.com/products/txj-50dl-relaxed-fit-5-pocket-jeans