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Ben Jefferson said:
Have you had the distinct "pleasure" of dealing with one of these confused individuals in your daily work @HMP? I would imaging a variety of other challenges accompany the issues.
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As far as athletics go or just trans people?
I'll tackle both to save time.
Athletics: No.
Trans people as a whole: Yes.

I had a girl two years ago in my class. Great kid, very bright, very sweet. Unfortunately her very young mother passed away due to cancer, she was about two months younger than me, actually.
Not long after the student started going by a male name, wanted to be identified as a male.
I did my best, but, of course, messed up at times. It's hard to instantly start calling someone a different name after a few months. But I tried.

This year THEY were back in my class. First day I called them up and said, before class began, "Still going by _____?" They nervously laughed and said, "I was very confused and had a weird phase, thank you though"



Now, in my personal life - I know another trans person, a girl to guy that I play hockey with. They have been out as a lesbian for I dont know how long, at least as long as Ive known them, and came out as trans a year and a half or so ago I guess (my timeline is messed up, I apologize). I do my best to refer to them by their new, male name out of respect for the human they are because I liked them before and they havent changed, in my opinion, since their declaration. But I mess up. Again, it's hard to know someone for so long by one name and not 'slip up' and call them by that same name. And they've never had an issue, they understand.
 
9mmEverything said:
Good luck. Assault is still illegal, macho man.
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Just gonna toss this out there, as you are new, ignorant of our members, and don’t really understand who you are speaking to.

Basil is one of the more reserved, kind hearted individuals you will ever have the pleasure of being around. With that said, if he said he was going to do something, then he will. The consequences have already been worked out in his mind and the cost has been measured worthy. So an assault charge in this case is likely not something that would phase him in the least.

This isn’t internet bravado. This isn’t puffing up his chest in order to impress his Internet buddies. It isn’t even him just trying to prove his own badassery to himself. It is a statement of fact.


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@Ben Jefferson I want to add, you asked me about the challenges of dealing with these 'confused individuals'
I want to point out that the only challenges are/were/have been/whatever TRYING to be respectful of the ones Ive dealt with.
Again, Ive had two that Ive had real interactions with. Have I seen/dealt with more? Sure. There's a dude that dresses like a girl at the local walmart, brought me my groceries to my car once and I see them in the store from time to time. But we dont speak, I dont deal with them regularly, really.

But the true challenge, the ONLY challenge that Ive faced is trying to remain respectful to these two folks who have been nothing but cool to me leading up to, during and, in the one case, after, their transition.
That all said, my good friend, Larry, he's got a sort of former friend, and I know this person as I used to be their boss way back when, who went from dude to non binary or whatever.
They were roommates for about a year, friends for several years. Then this guy turned to a non guy but not a girl just a living thing or something...I dont know. Anyway, name is Kelly. So Larry would be talking with Kelly and Larry is like me uses the word 'dude' a bit, to guys, girls, old people, young people, bosses, whatever. And at times, to Kelly. Kelly got all bent out of shape. "How dare you, refer to me with male pronouns!"

Yeah, THAT'S a challenge lol
My two folks, when I did genuinely mess up and call them their former name, they didnt/dont care. They arent that uptight, they get it. They know/knew I care about them and that I respect them and that I dont/didnt mean anything malicious. And, damnit, Kelly shouldve known that too. But that dude sucked. I thought so back when he worked for me years ago when he was just a dude, I think so now still.
 
HMP said:
As far as athletics go or just trans people?
I'll tackle both to save time.
Athletics: No.
Trans people as a whole: Yes.

I had a girl two years ago in my class. Great kid, very bright, very sweet. Unfortunately her very young mother passed away due to cancer, she was about two months younger than me, actually.
Not long after the student started going by a male name, wanted to be identified as a male.
I did my best, but, of course, messed up at times. It's hard to instantly start calling someone a different name after a few months. But I tried.

This year THEY were back in my class. First day I called them up and said, before class began, "Still going by _____?" They nervously laughed and said, "I was very confused and had a weird phase, thank you though"



Now, in my personal life - I know another trans person, a girl to guy that I play hockey with. They have been out as a lesbian for I dont know how long, at least as long as Ive known them, and came out as trans a year and a half or so ago I guess (my timeline is messed up, I apologize). I do my best to refer to them by their new, male name out of respect for the human they are because I liked them before and they havent changed, in my opinion, since their declaration. But I mess up. Again, it's hard to know someone for so long by one name and not 'slip up' and call them by that same name. And they've never had an issue, they understand.
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That can be rough sir, I empathize.

I have had quite a few dealings with gay family members and their friends. I was told I dealt with it better than most expected the jar head to do. I have no problem with it as long as they don't try to play in my ballpark.
 
Ben Jefferson said:
That can be rough sir, I empathize.

I have had quite a few dealings with gay family members and their friends. I was told I dealt with it better than most expected the jar head to do. I have no problem with it as long as they don't try to play in my ballpark
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Dont empathize with me brother, Ive got it easy, at least compared with these folks and what they must go through.

Yeah, I dont care if someone is straight, gay, bi, tri, quad, whatever dude. I dont care. Just respect me, respect others, respect yourself, be cool, dont harm folks.
 
B00ger said:
Just gonna toss this out there, as you are new, ignorant of our members, and don’t really understand who you are speaking to.

Basil is one of the more reserved, kind hearted individuals you will ever have the pleasure of being around. With that said, if he said he was going to do something, then he will. The consequences have already been worked out in his mind and the cost has been measured worthy. So an assault charge in this case is likely not something that would phase him in the least.

This isn’t internet bravado. This isn’t puffing up his chest in order to impress his Internet buddies. It isn’t even him just trying to prove his own badassery to himself. It is a statement of fact.


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