Punisher, Netflix

I don't think the Punisher was ever an FBI agent in the comics ,I could be wrong but I believe he was a Marine Sniper home on leave and his family was killed in a park by a motorcycle gang.
I'm half way through the netfix series , like it a lot but the side story of the vet PTSD group still trying to put together its purpose, but was kinda bummed with the White Middle aged, racist nut job they stereo typed with the NRA shirt and 2nd Amendment literature.
 
was kinda bummed with the White Middle aged, racist nut job they stereo typed with the NRA shirt and 2nd Amendment literature.
You noticed that, too, huh? I was kind of happy that I have the same NRA hat. My boys actually wear it (I don't do hats often). I love the disgusted look when people see one of my sons wearing that "evil hat that is responsible for all of the hatred and bad things in our country."
 
I also was irritated by the NRA stereotype bit they threw in there. I noticed it pretty quickly. I know people like that exist, and its technically not incorrect that one could be in that group, I just don't see how it is supposed to do anything productive to the story line. I get the "vets trying to pull their lives together" matched up with the "vets on a rampage because of injustice" aspect and the pull between the two, but the NRA bit is a bit silly.
 
Episode 8...at 43:10 left.

Man, she looks good...

The Punisher made his first appearance in 1974. And he was a Marine...Force Recon, Sniper, went through Army training on the same, qualified Navy Seal, etc. Served in Vietnam, blah, blah, blah.

After a tour, his family was murdered for witnessing a mafia execution. Frank, however, survives but even though he can ID all the perps, the police can't do anything because of all the ties with the mafia family. So he goes to war on them and becomes known as The Punisher.

Sound familiar? Like, maybe something out of a book?

It might...if you have ever read any of The Executioner books by Don Pendelton, which started in 1969. Pretty much the same story, only the main character is Mack Bolin, who was a Vietnam veteran (sniper) whose family was killed in a murder/suicide by his father. Mack returned stateside to bury them, and finds out that the local mafia had forced his sister into prostitution over family debts, which snapped his father's mind and lead to their deaths. Sooooo...he goes to war with the mafia.

Makes me wonder if the Executioner books were an inspiration for The Punisher.
 
Just finished it this morning. The first half of the season felt like it was getting more and more liberal at first, and then they finally pulled away from it. I didn’t get the young army dude side story being in the show. It was random filler that seemed like they used it just to make gun owners, constitutionalists, and vets crazy.
 
Just finished it this morning. The first half of the season felt like it was getting more and more liberal at first, and then they finally pulled away from it. I didn’t get the young army dude side story being in the show. It was random filler that seemed like they used it just to make gun owners, constitutionalists, and vets crazy.

I got the same thing, but I thought it was very humanizing of vet issues as well. Made you see the Punisher as the damaged guy he is too. Almost made the bomber kid relatable...
 
I got the same thing, but I thought it was very humanizing of vet issues as well. Made you see the Punisher as the damaged guy he is too. Almost made the bomber kid relatable...

I think that was really the key to this...that and the fact that Frank KNOWS he's screwed up in the head...he's not living a lie with himself over it.
 
I binged season 2 of Dardevil, then started back at episode 9 And finished watching Punisher too. I also think the ending left an opening for another villain origin, we'll have to see...

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I was very surprised. I thought it started out a little slow during the first couple episodes, but picked up fast. It is one of the best Marvel productions I have seen, movies or series. I was on the fence about Jon Bernthal, but really got to liking him as Frank Castle. Great series!
 
I watched Season 1, Episode 1 last night and enjoyed it. Should I go watch the movies before moving on with the TV Show?
 
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I watched Season 1, Episode 1 last night and enjoyed it. Should I go watch the movies before moving on with the TV Show?
I watched about 7 episodes before talking with my son, who told me that Frank's story started with Daredevil season 2 (correct me if I'm wrong).
So I watched DD season 2, then went back and finished watching Punisher- for me, it made more sense; the Frank Castle character starts out much less talkative but no less brutal.

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I watched Season 1, Episode 1 last night and enjoyed it. Should I go watch the movies before moving on with the TV Show?

Yes. Worth it.

None of them are going to win any oscars, but you probably realize that.
 
Had the obligatory attempt to be anti gun but proving that the anti gun crowd is wrong.
anti gun Senator Brings in armed security.
Wicked Shawkah!

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I binged season 2 of Dardevil, then started back at episode 9 And finished watching Punisher too. I also think the ending left an opening for another villain origin, we'll have to see...

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The guy who played Bill is listed as “Jigsaw” on some credits. I presume that’s a bad guy they’re creating or from the original comics. For those who’ve not watched the whole series yet, I’ll spare the details—only to say that name does make sense.
 
I finished the series last night...I really liked it. The guy that plays Frank is a far better actor than I expected, especially the last couple episodes.

I'm going to start on Dare Devil now, I hope it's as good.
 
I binged watched the whole series a few weeks back. LOVED IT! JON is da man!!!
DS
 
Had the obligatory attempt to be anti gun but proving that the anti gun crowd is wrong.
anti gun Senator Brings in armed security.
Wicked Shawkah!
Yeah, I like how they played that - showed how ridiculous the antigun senator's position is. And the scene where Karen looks in her purse for her gun and remembers that she has been disarmed is basically what happened in the Luby's massacre in Texas - I don't know if the writers were aware of Luby's, but that was a pivotal point for gun rights in Texas.

Overall, Punisher is by far the best of the Netflix/Marvel series, and it carried over the only 2 characters I thought were worth a damn (and I expressed this in the earlier Daredevil threads a year or two ago) - Castle and Karen Page (I liked her in Daredevil, and she showed why in Punisher w/ her concealed carry and defense of gun rights). ALL the other characters from the Netflix series are libtards. For those who watched Punisher and are going back to watch Daredevil, good luck - the bleeding heart libtardianism may be too much to bear.

In the break between this season and next season, I hope Jon Bernthal works on his gun handling skills. He has nothing, and I mean NOTHING, on Keanu Reeves. He needs to call Keanu up and sign up with the guys that trained Keanu for John Wick.
One example - in the scene where Lewis takes Karen hostage, look at Castle's grip. It's the same grip the guy playing former sniper in Justified uses - support hand thumb pointing up at the sky. Do these Hollywood actors all learn this from someone or is that how people w/o any training instinctively put their support hand on a pistol?

And I understand how characters need to walk off rifle wounds or else they'd be left with terrible alternatives - like nobody can hit the side of a barn or characters all die or spend lots of time in the hospital.
But shot in the cheek at close range with a rifle and you spit out the bullet? C'mon, man, that's ridiculous even by Hollywood standards.
 
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For the record, because I can be vague- the only reason I went "back" to DD season 2 was to see the background of Frank's story. DD definitely pegs the libtard meter with his "morals" and anti-gun/no kill mantra.

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Hopefully, Andrew Lincoln will have a minor role in next season as some gay British guy pretending to be a man before Frank wastes his a**.
 
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I dunno.....I stuck with Aarow far too long because, well, Felicity.
We quit watching Arrow after their political anti gun episode. Cool show until that episode.
 
The Punisher sounds like at least half a FUDD.

"I'm a gun owner," Bernthal told me one afternoon in Ojai. "I have a gun in my house to keep my family safe. I'm trained in that gun's use. I know how to keep it away from my kids, and I know how to use it if I need to."

With [one of his rescue pit bulls] Boss at his feet, he went back and forth talking about the cowardice of those who hold absolute positions on either side of the issue. "Should there be a way that a guy with mental issues like the a**hole in Texas can't get guns? Absolutely. We have to have a dialogue, and that's not happening."

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/apos-punisher-apos-star-jon-171000848.html
 
I dunno.....I stuck with Aarow far too long because, well, Felicity.

Felicity has nothing on the blonde sister, the one who was supposed to have died on the boat with Oliver, but keeps coming back to life. The lesbian. Can't remember her name, though. But I can picture her very well.
 
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The Punisher sounds like at least half a FUDD.

"I'm a gun owner," Bernthal told me one afternoon in Ojai. "I have a gun in my house to keep my family safe. I'm trained in that gun's use. I know how to keep it away from my kids, and I know how to use it if I need to."

With [one of his rescue pit bulls] Boss at his feet, he went back and forth talking about the cowardice of those who hold absolute positions on either side of the issue. "Should there be a way that a guy with mental issues like the a**hole in Texas can't get guns? Absolutely. We have to have a dialogue, and that's not happening."

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/apos-punisher-apos-star-jon-171000848.html
Well, he is an actor...






And Rick bitched him with a knife, so..there's that. [emoji23]

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