Question on NFA process

[rdec873]

I have a couple questions but figure I would ask in phases so I make sure I get it right. So far, I have completed the following:
- Obtained the trust document
- filled it out and had it notorized
- I have about 5 copes of fingerprints
- Have passport photos
- Have my "1$ bill" as the trust collateral
Here is where my questions begin. What is the next step in formalizing the trust? Do I need to mail it anywhere or just file it. After I get this answered, my net question is around procuring a suppressor. Still trying to figure out what model I want (looking for a multi-cal), but also may pickup a 22 suppressor. I appreciate the guidance here.
thanks
Rich

 

[Geezer]

@BigWaylon is our resident expert on all things NFA. He'll be along dreckly.

 

[BigWaylon]

If the trust is completed and notarized, it should be good to go. You don’t proactively send it to the ATF for anything.

Next step is to decide what NFA item you’re wanting. The serial number goes on the Form 1 or 4, so you have to decide before you buy.

You’ll file a copy of the trust along with the F1/F4, and any applicable RPQ forms (5320.23), plus photos and fingerprints. The exact combination of all that depends on whether you building or buying, and how maybe Responsible Persons are part of the trust.

 

[rdec873]

If the trust is completed and notarized, it should be good to go. You don’t proactively send it to the ATF for anything.

Next step is to decide what NFA item you’re wanting. The serial number goes on the Form 1 or 4, so you have to decide before you buy.

You’ll file a copy of the trust along with the F1/F4, and any applicable RPQ forms (5320.23), plus photos and fingerprints. The exact combination of all that depends on whether you building or buying, and how maybe Responsible Persons are part of the trust.

Many thanks. I'm looking for my first suppressor. I still need to research what I want but ideally a multi caliber that can handle 9mm, 45acp, 223 and 6.5cm. I'm still researching but kind of like that Enfield you posted about earlier. May keep my eyes on that. Also need to find an ffl that can take receipt of it once paperwork goes out and comes back. I'm in the Raleigh area.

 

[BigWaylon]

You’ll be much better off to find:

1. A local dealer that has something you want in stock...and by local I simply mean in-state. THSF in Matthews (edge of Charlotte) is who I use, and you can handle everything online and through the mail if you need to. That includes him mailing you the silencer once it’s approved.
2. A SilencerShop dealer near you that has a kiosk

I know a do-it-all sounds like a good plan. But I’d highly recommend a .30 rifle can, a .45 pistol can, and a rimfire can.

If you’re set on one, I’d probably choose Hybrid.

 

[RacerX]

I’m also new to the same game. After much consultation and deliberation and delaying, I finally put myself on the list. @BigWaylon ’s advice is golden.

 

[Crazy Carl]

@BigWaylon will steer you right & Tarheel State is great to deal with. The process is relatively painless & much simpler than you'd think.

Fair warning, NFA items are addictive. I started with a .22 can about 5 years ago and while I don't have it as bad as some, I do now also have a .300BLK SBR & a sweet can for it.

 

[rdec873]

You’ll be much better off to find:

1. A local dealer that has something you want in stock...and by local I simply mean in-state. THSF in Matthews (edge of Charlotte) is who I use, and you can handle everything online and through the mail if you need to. That includes him mailing you the silencer once it’s approved.
2. A SilencerShop dealer near you that has a kiosk

I know a do-it-all sounds like a good plan. But I’d highly recommend a .30 rifle can, a .45 pistol can, and a rimfire can.

If you’re set on one, I’d probably choose Hybrid.

Silly question but I assume the 45 pistol can can handle the 9mm as well? And would the .30 rifle can be for the 6.5cm and the 223?


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[BigWaylon]

Silly question but I assume the 45 pistol can can handle the 9mm as well? And would the .30 rifle can be for the 6.5cm and the 223?

Yes. If you split up basic rifle and pistol cartridges, then in most cases if it fits, it’s fine to shoot.

Things like 9/40/45 through a 45 can are fine.
5.56/6.5/6.8/7.62 through a 7.62 can are fine.

You break the “if it fits rule” with things like 5.7x28, 17HMR and .223 through a 22LR only can (like the aluminum Silencerco Warlock).

With pistol calibers, you generally just need a piston in the correct thread pitch. If using a PCC, you’d either swap the spring for a fixed barrel spacer, change to 3-lug, or used fixed mount.

With rifle calibers, you’d either use a QD system where the various thread pitches (mainly just 1/2-28 & 5/8-24) are handled by using different muzzle devices (flash hiders and muzzle brakes) that all accept the same silencer...or you have different direct thread adapters to use. Worst case is you buy a can that’s permanently 5/8-24 and have to put a 1/2-28 to 5/8-24 adapter on any 5.56 host.