Questions about a safe

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I have been shopping for a safe lately, simply because I'm running out of closet space, and I'm tired of using trigger and cable locks.
I'm not looking for something that is indestructible, nor does it have to withstand a Volcanic eruption, but I want it to be enough of a deterrent in the off chance a meth-head comes in my house when nobody is home, that they can't just carry it out (like a thin metal gun cabinet) and would require some serious effort (or smarts) to break into.

I came across this one locally, and they're asking $400 obo, and I'm thinking I could take it home for $300, if not less. (Seller is frustrated with several no-shows.)

Seller doesn't know the model number, and from what I can find on the interwebs, it is a 1990's model Cannon 24-Gun safe. It's 62" Tall, 30" wide, and 25" deep. It weighs around 500lbs.

Now, I know squat about safes, other than I want something that can't be carried out or easily pried open... Would it be worth it to snag this thing for $300-$400?

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Buy it. If you are certain of it's location and you never want to move it again. Put the contents of one full tube of liquid nails on the floor and set it on it. Be damn sure it's where you want it.
 
Cannon is a recognized brand. That's a good price IMO. A bigger key to safety is put it in a location that can not be accessed easily with tools. It's hard to develop leverage to pry a door if there is a wall or door jamb in the way. Bolt it to the floor so it can't be moved. And keep it out of sight for prying eyes.
 
Buy it. If you are certain of it's location and you never want to move it again. Put the contents of one full tube of liquid nails on the floor and set it on it. Be damn sure it's where you want it.
Because of it's dimensions, I planned to put it in my closet, which is a semi-walk-in closet. I would have to remove a section of the racks that are currently in my closet to get it in there, and it would have JUST enough room for the door to swing open and start a backswing before touching the wall. I don't think I would even need Liquid Nails, because once it's in place, the only way I'll be able to get behind it or beside it will require the removal of walls.

The downside is, I just talked to them, and they don't have the actual key, only the "combination card" for it. I wonder if I do buy it, if I can order a replacement key from Cannon. I assume the key is used to change the combination? Or are keys used for quick-access?
 
Because of it's dimensions, I planned to put it in my closet, which is a semi-walk-in closet. I would have to remove a section of the racks that are currently in my closet to get it in there, and it would have JUST enough room for the door to swing open and start a backswing before touching the wall. I don't think I would even need Liquid Nails, because once it's in place, the only way I'll be able to get behind it or beside it will require the removal of walls.

The downside is, I just talked to them, and they don't have the actual key, only the "combination card" for it. I wonder if I do buy it, if I can order a replacement key from Cannon. I assume the key is used to change the combination? Or are keys used for quick-access?
call cannon
 
Yeah, that's a good deal. If it were me, id just pay the man and move on to getting it delivered.
 
That is a good price. If that is the combo/key type Canon can replace the key for you.
 
Yup you should be able to get a relacement key for like $25. I bought a floor model Cannon and had to do the same.
 
Well, I've made arrangements to see it on Saturday, that was his earliest availability. He apparently only lives about 10 minutes from my house... I just gonna find a way to get it from his garage to my bedroom, which is the opposite of what I'm used to doing with the bodies...

...wait, what?
 
Yeah...you cant really cut a safe into pieces. But you can bribe your closest friends into helping move it.
 
Great price, get it. Even if you pay what he's asking. The key is only to lock/keep the dial from spinning. You don't really need it. Pursue later on getting a key.

Good luck!
 
handtruck will make things much easier.
 
I'm between Comfort and Trenton, around the Jones County line. I have secured a box truck with a hydraulic lift, and bribed some friends with a cookout.
Can't help you there... I know a guy but that's out of his area.
 
Yeah...you cant really cut a safe into pieces. But you can bribe your closest friends into helping move it.
I'm between Comfort and Trenton, around the Jones County line. I have secured a box truck with a hydraulic lift, and bribed some friends with a cookout.
Beer is always a good bribe. Beer and burgers is even better.

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Because of it's dimensions, I planned to put it in my closet, which is a semi-walk-in closet. I would have to remove a section of the racks that are currently in my closet to get it in there, and it would have JUST enough room for the door to swing open and start a backswing before touching the wall. I don't think I would even need Liquid Nails, because once it's in place, the only way I'll be able to get behind it or beside it will require the removal of walls.

The downside is, I just talked to them, and they don't have the actual key, only the "combination card" for it. I wonder if I do buy it, if I can order a replacement key from Cannon. I assume the key is used to change the combination? Or are keys used for quick-access?


Others may disagree... My advice is don't use that key... If you lock the dial while the safes is locked and you lose the key, you're locked out of your safe.
 
It's not very hard to bump the key lock. About as easy as a file cabinet or storage cabinet.
 
Well, my hydro lift fell through, and I'm down to a 1990 Chevy 1500, and no idea how I'm gonna get this safe in or out of it, especially since the number of helpers is dwindling quick.
 
Its a PITA, but two people can move a big safe with a handtruck.
My father and I have moved several with just the two of us and a handtruck, using a basic flat trailer.

It isnt ideal, but two can do it.

Dont pass up on this because of a hydrolift and bunch of people to aid.
 
With a couple 2-3 guys you should be able to tilt and slide it into the back of the truck. 500 lbs sounds like a lot but it can be manhandled.
Yeah, youre not really 'picking it up' but just tilting etc

Seriously, get a friend and a good handtruck and get a steal of a deal from the seller
 
What kind of flooring material is in the house?

Get some moving blankets to tilt and slide into the truck on its back.

I had hardwood flooring that was freshly laid when I got my safe. I stuck the sticky floor protector pads on the bottom. All I did was slide the safe through the house and spin it into the space it was going to stay.

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piece of cardboard will help it slide in the back of the PU.

Yep, or a moving blanket.
The hardest part will be getting it into the house. I suggest renting a refergerator hand truck. It has hard wheels and the belt roller for getting up steps and such. Plus a good strap to keep it all together.
 
It's currently on the floor in his garage, and would have to make it's way into the bed of the old 1500, without snapping the tailgate off. Then I get it home, I can back right up to my porch, I'll just need some kind of heavy duty ramps/planks to go straight from the bed to the porch. From there, it's just a short trip into my bedroom, and a spin around into the closet...

Of course this morning I saw that there are 2 places having gun auctions tomorrow in town, and one has quite a few older S&W wheelguns. Gotta keep my mind on the safe, and off the auctions!
 
I moved a ~400# safe on my own as everyone was out of town, wasn't easy but very doable. I was on the 1st floor and my truck's tail gate lined up nicely with the deck, the big step from the deck to the house was a little difficult but I layed it down slid it in then lifted it back up. Home Depot rents a heavy duty appliance handtruck for a pretty low price, grab that and it will work wonders. Regarding the tailgate, shouldn't be an issue as they were designed for far greater weight(think ATVs/motorcycles), just make sure your hinges aren't rotted out.
 
Go to a LGS that sells safes. Buy incidentals like a heater and desiccant. Explain your situation and ask for contact info for their safe mover. Pay the man and consider it a bargain. Doctors cost more.
 
Turns out one of the ladies in the office here knows someone with a moving company, and I may not even have to lift a finger, just give them $100 and I'm done! Crossing my fingers.
 
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