Range pet peeves

- Old dudes that treat my range time as social hour. Sometimes I'm there for a specific project and have a tight schedule. Sometimes I welcome the social aspect...ya gotta be able to differentiate

- RO's that tell me my suppressors are illegal and hope I don't get caught.

- shooters that give me a lecture on every aspect of the features and capabilities of....the gun I brought.
 
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-People who come over and touch my guns without asking.
-Fudds who get annoyed by semi-auto fire.
-People who ask me if my AKs are "full auto."



-Also, people who spell "peeve" wrong :p
My niece uses this and changes spelling in autocorrect dictionary.

Some one fixed the title. Thanks.
 
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Fudds who couldn’t shoot an alpha at 3 feet with a SAW if their beagles life depended on it, but have plenty of shooting advice.
Tactical timmies mag dumping for a 5% hit ratio. Range bros with grockz.

But I still like these people more than hippies.
 
when I'm serving as RO (private club), it really makes me nervous when folks carry an uncased weapon from vehicle to the line.

Don't do that.

I have been in the unfortunate position a time or two to have to bring an uncased rifle to the range. I always approach the RO with the rifle still in the vehicle and ask permission to proceed.
 
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Sweeping with a muzzle, loaded or not, as an adult and not the result of an accidental loss of control like tripping or dropping the gun, is gonna get you yelled at, and at my club probably told to leave, if you're a guest I'll probably try to have you uninvited permanently. Children under about 12, I'll try to have a rational talk with the adult, over 12 I'll be a lot less understanding with the adult. The process for getting members kicked is complicated and probably won't be followed through by others, but so far non-issue.

Messing with guns while people are downrange is a big no in my book, not quite sweeping, but definitely warrants some discussion.

Finger on the trigger all the time is annoying and we'll talk about it cause rounds over the berm are bad, and then there's that tripping thing.

There's a ton of other things that annoy me, because they eat my time, and anymore if there's more than a handful of people at my range when I get there, I usually just turn around.
 
A tree falls down and I have to get my chainsaw and cut it up.
The bear that doesn't like my 4" x 8" little steel so he keeps ripping it down.
I'll forget the radio so I have to get on the atv and go back and get it.
My yellow spray paint tip clogs up.
One of the chains gets shot and I have to use an S link to mend it.
Sometimes the temperature will reach a scorching 80 degrees.
When I'm done and go to the outdoor kitchen and there's only 2 beers left.
 
Range Ninjas ... with their tacticool stuff and wannabe talk but really don’t know crap. On the other side of that I love seeing them taken down a couple notches by a shooter they vastly underestimate like a woman or kid who can outshoot them.
 
Muzzle brakes


Me and @JustKeepSwimming were shooting on Saturday, had this gorgeous place to ourselves for a while.

We occupied the two far right tables/benches on the line and there were at least 8 others to choose from. This guy shows up with several out of the box PSA rifles (which chewed his brass all to hell; I’m tossing about 150pcs of Lake City 5.56 and FC 224 Valkyrie out unfortunately) and his brakes were rattling my teeth. Urinal etiquette!! Don’t get right up on someone, spread out!
 
when I'm serving as RO (private club), it really makes me nervous when folks carry an uncased weapon from vehicle to the line.

Don't do that.

Why? I rarely carry a rifle or shotgun in a case and just make sure that I do as I always do everywhere by keeping the muzzle pointed up and the action open until I get to the bench and put down the firearm pointing down range. I much prefer that to the people who bring cased long guns with possibly closed actions and put them on tables in their cases with the gun pointing perpendicular to the firing line, pointing away from the firing line, or pointing at the firing line from behind the firing line. I suppose each range has different types of facilities that can dictate how firearms are treated near the firing line. We have racks in the shotgun areas for the guns, but shooters generally uncase the firearms at their vehicles and carry them in a safe manner to the racks in the pavilion or to the racks at each field.

I certainly agree with the rules of some matches that demand firearms, mainly handguns, be uncased in a safe area and put into holsters as well as some matches that have supervised loading and unloading areas.

Except during matches, my private club does not have RO's. We police ourselves and do not hesitate to tell someone if they are being unsafe.
 
If you sweep me with a muzzle....and I ask you to please make an effort to not point guns at people- your response:

"Why? It ain't loaded?"

From then on, my range trip is ruined.
I cannot take my eyes off Mr. It_aint_loaded.
It's like a OCD disorder on my part.

Oh, and 1911/2011 shooters who holster a cold gun with the hammer back. (Hammer down at the range) unless the gun is HOT.

People who assume reloaded ammo is crap. Ok, I understand that your Crazy uncle reloads and only half of his ammo will fit in the gun. Not everyone has that problem.
 
A tree falls down and I have to get my chainsaw and cut it up.
The bear that doesn't like my 4" x 8" little steel so he keeps ripping it down.
I'll forget the radio so I have to get on the atv and go back and get it.
My yellow spray paint tip clogs up.
One of the chains gets shot and I have to use an S link to mend it.
Sometimes the temperature will reach a scorching 80 degrees.
When I'm done and go to the outdoor kitchen and there's only 2 beers left.
You and I live in shooter's Heaven.
 
When the bays are full, and the RO spends all his time and attention showing the girl with the cute ass how to shoot, leaving the other ten lanes unsupervised. I understand customer service, but the RO is there for safety, not instruction, and things can go wrong quickly when nobody's watching.
 
Why? I rarely carry a rifle or shotgun in a case and just make sure that I do as I always do everywhere by keeping the muzzle pointed up and the action open until I get to the bench and put down the firearm pointing down range. I much prefer that to the people who bring cased long guns with possibly closed actions and put them on tables in their cases with the gun pointing perpendicular to the firing line, pointing away from the firing line, or pointing at the firing line from behind the firing line. I suppose each range has different types of facilities that can dictate how firearms are treated near the firing line. We have racks in the shotgun areas for the guns, but shooters generally uncase the firearms at their vehicles and carry them in a safe manner to the racks in the pavilion or to the racks at each field.

I certainly agree with the rules of some matches that demand firearms, mainly handguns, be uncased in a safe area and put into holsters as well as some matches that have supervised loading and unloading areas.

Except during matches, my private club does not have RO's. We police ourselves and do not hesitate to tell someone if they are being unsafe.


Why? Because you’re the exception, not the rule.

A fair percentage of the time uncased weapons coming out of a vehicle are....
- loaded
- carried improperly, causing sweeping issues
- brought to the line while the line is cold
- actions closed and magazines inserted
- etc.

Of course there are folks that don’t do these things, but it’s just like above when someone says “it’s not loaded” in response to being called out for sweeping. It’s just not OK.
 
Threads like this make me realize how blessed I am to have my own place to shoot.

Threads like this, and having been an RO at our club for a few years, are why I’ll never again go to a public range.
 
What is it you can't stand?

Today my friend brought a friend to the range that made me cringe. Can't stand bad habits.

I've had people do that at a cookout that I stocked and paid for myself. They wanted to bring a friend, who wanted to bring more people. Seriously? WTF. I ask for a specific number of people to show up so I can ensure everyone has something to eat/drink.

Those people are @$$holes and don't get invited back.
 
Why? Because you’re the exception, not the rule.

A fair percentage of the time uncased weapons coming out of a vehicle are....
- loaded
- carried improperly, causing sweeping issues
- brought to the line while the line is cold
- actions closed and magazines inserted
- etc.

Of course there are folks that don’t do these things, but it’s just like above when someone says “it’s not loaded” in response to being called out for sweeping. It’s just not OK.



That's a good point but may I ask how having one in a case changes those facts? In the case you can't see if the action is open or a magazine is inserted and in the case of a handgun even which way the muzzle is pointed. Not being a smartarse here. Asking a serious question.
 
That's a good point but may I ask how having one in a case changes those facts? In the case you can't see if the action is open or a magazine is inserted and in the case of a handgun even which way the muzzle is pointed. Not being a smartarse here. Asking a serious question.

Simply put, it’s awfully hard to get your finger on the trigger of a cased weapon.
 
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Simply put, it’s awfully hard to get your finger on the trigger of a cased weapon.


Good point. Thanks. But with that thought in mind with a proper holster you cant get to the trigger either and yet some ranges require you to uou holster and unload uour carry gun. Isnt that creating aun necessary siyuation for an nd.
 
Good point. Thanks. But with that thought in mind with a proper holster you cant get to the trigger either and yet some ranges require you to uou holster and unload uour carry gun. Isnt that creating aun necessary siyuation for an nd.
It can be. While I do understand the need for a cold range in some situations I've never really grasped the logic behind requiring folks to arrive at the range cold. They're gonna carry until they park and then clear their gun at the car. With people around. Makes no sense to design a safety rule set without considering that reality.
 
Good point. Thanks. But with that thought in mind with a proper holster you cant get to the trigger either and yet some ranges require you to uou holster and unload uour carry gun. Isnt that creating aun necessary siyuation for an nd.


All of my RO time is spent on a rifle range, not pistol. So I may not be the best qualified to answer this. That said, in my mind a holstered pistol IS 'cased' and safe. Walk up to the bench, draw and clear while/if the line is hot.

My comment about bringing uncased weapons to the line would apply if a pistol was carried in the hand from car to bench.
 
It can be. While I do understand the need for a cold range in some situations I've never really grasped the logic behind requiring folks to arrive at the range cold. They're gonna carry until they park and then clear their gun at the car. With people around. Makes no sense to design a safety rule set without considering that reality.

Three words-
Lowest common denominator.

Rules are designed for the lowest denominator of patrons.
I like chamber flags and cased guns.
Preferably both.
 
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Most of my irritants come from range rules that have been implemented because someone else was a moron. I.e. only being allowed to load 5 in a rifle mag because some morons were doing mag dumps over the berms. Or having to wait 1 second between shots because another set of morons were also mag dumping over berms. Indoor ranges that limit the use of steel ammunition is another. It >may< be berm specific, but I talked to a owner/manager at a range in Winston and he said there were absolutely no reasons that steel core pistol ammunition couldn't be used at an indoor range. The only reason he could think that someone would want to limit it is because they have to sort it our of their picked up brass, or the people who recycle the lead from their berm doesn't like it.
 
The fact that I'm going to a public range is my pet peeve. I like shooting steel, and most public outdoor ranges poo-poo that. So I made my own.

I do cringe when the sheriff rolls by because some moron 3 miles away doesn't like gunfire sounds on a cold winter's day and the sound carries.
 
Or having to wait 1 second between shots

What, a 1 second rule?!? I can sort of understand a 3 round pause...

I've seen the rule of not drawing from a holster at the line. I'm not clearing in the parking lot (always carry to/from) and always told the RO what I was going to do first thing when I'm at the line. I understand their rules and all, only walked away once when told no.
 
Oh, just remembered one...was all alone at an indoor range...10 bays or so total. Guy comes in, and sets up in the bay next to me...I was like "seriously"...its as bad/worse than some dude saddling up next to you at a line of urinals...personal space doods!
 
I've heard of a local outdoor range not allowing reloads. That's a total deal breaker to me.

I've never gotten that one. Or the "only from a certain vendor" rule.

It's not like a factory loads can't have issues. Whatever those are.

Oh, just remembered one...was all alone at an indoor range...10 bays or so total. Guy comes in, and sets up in the bay next to me...I was like "seriously"...its as bad/worse than some dude saddling up next to you at a line of urinals...personal space doods!

I hate that one too. The RO's seem to want to be able to see both of you at the same time.
and they assign the lanes. At least at the ranges I frequent. I've left because of it, due to seeing how the knuckleheads were acting in the parking lot. I requested to be as far as possible from them, the RO tried to give me a lane with only one separating us.
 
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